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Perry Erstwhile scratchbuilder 
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This is an initial draft plan of a proposed Sand-drying Plant scratchbuild. The prototype stood for many years, most of them before my time, at Clacton-on-Sea, Essex, although it is now long gone. The boiler from a defunct loco was adapted for use as the heating source. Presumably the firebox was stoked from within the building. The chimney was extended to a considerable height. I have no idea where the following very old photo comes from. If it is still copyrighted, please let me know and I will withdraw it immediately with a full apology. I can find no other source that illustrates the type of plant I wish to represent.  I have roughed it out in SketchUp 8 but this is only a first draft. Further refinement will be required before building can start.  The photo shows something visible either on, or behind, the roof ridge. I don't know at this stage if this was a vent or nothing at all to do with this building. It should be very quick and easy to build, once the dimensions and details are finalised. Your comments, observations and suggestions would be very welcome.  Perry ____________________ Due to cutbacks, the light at the end of the tunnel has been switched off. |
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ddolfelin Straight man to the stars. 
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Maybe attached to the building behind, Perry. What a very unusual build! My first thought was to comment on the height of that locos chimney. ____________________ http://dddioramas.webs.com/ 11 + 2 = 12 + 1 |
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Perry Erstwhile scratchbuilder
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ddolfelin wrote: Maybe attached to the building behind, Perry. I bet it was a humbug to get under bridges or through tunnels, let alone into the loco shed!  I appreciate your comment on the 'mystery object'. It does look a little bit offset to the roof line, so perhaps it is behind the sandhouse. I can't recall what was behind it, except for the coal yard. There used to be a water tower in the distance, but I don't think it's that. It looks too 'sharp' and near to the foreground for that. It's also the wrong shape.  Perry ____________________ Due to cutbacks, the light at the end of the tunnel has been switched off. |
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Could it be a ventilator....... its the right sort of shape The high chimney is indeed unusual..............its much higher than the chimneys on more conventional sand drying plants like the one at Didcot ____________________ John Granby III Lenz DCC,RR&Co Gold V9 B4 Windows 10 |
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Perry Erstwhile scratchbuilder
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Thanks, John. I guess a ventilator would have been needed to allow the moisture out of the building as the sand dried. It doesn't look as though it's on the ridge line but could be protruding through the far side of the roof. I suspect the height of the chimney may have had something to do with the proximity of the station. The object in the top right-hand corner of the photo is the platform canopy. Perry ____________________ Due to cutbacks, the light at the end of the tunnel has been switched off. |
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ddolfelin Straight man to the stars.
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I've tried to intensify your picture but it doesn't reveal much more except that I'm coming to believe it's on the roof.
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Stubby47 Welsh exile 
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I don't think it is on the roof, but is something else which is not connected. Looking at the shadow cast by the boiler and pipework on the building, the sun is somewhere to the viewer's upper left. So if the vent was on the roof, there would be a shadow on the ridgeline, but at the far end. This part of the ridge is in sunlight, and although the nearer end seems to be darker, this is probably weathering rather than shadow. Stu ____________________ Stubby47's Model Buildings - http://www.styubby47.co.uk All photos I post are ©Stu Hilton, but are free for use by anyone. The Chacewater to Newquay Railway: Shepherds Halt, Shepherds Station, The Treamble Branch |
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wogga Knows nowt about prototypes 
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Perry i agree with Stu the shadow is cast by the ventilator just above the solar panels I shall sit back and watch this with interest, what was a sand drying plant for? drying sand for what purpose? ____________________ Regards Pete. ECOS2 with RR&Co Traincontroller and a load of other electronics so i can sit back and watch the trains go by. |
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Perry Erstwhile scratchbuilder
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I'm impressed with all the scientific analysis that's going into this, guys, even if it doesn't resolve the matter.  HOWEVER!!!!!!!....... I have just located amongst my 'reference library' ( a ring-binder  ) plans of the station as it was in 1897 - a bit early - and 1923 - still a bit early but helpful.The plans are copyrighted so I can't post them here, BUT - the 1923 plan does show some structures, including some tanks and a building that appears to straddle the track, which are beyond the Sand-drying Plant and in direct line with it from the estimated viewpoint. I therefore think that it's safer to conclude that the 'vent' is nothing to do with this particular building and to make other arrangements to 'ventilate' the model.  Perry ____________________ Due to cutbacks, the light at the end of the tunnel has been switched off. |
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Perry Erstwhile scratchbuilder
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wogga wrote: Perry i agree with Stu the shadow is cast by the ventilator just above the solar panels Sand was dried and put into the sand boxes on a loco. It could then be released through a pipe onto the running surface of the rails to give the loco wheels more grip whenever it was needed. Perry ____________________ Due to cutbacks, the light at the end of the tunnel has been switched off. |
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wogga Knows nowt about prototypes
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Danke Sehr!
____________________ Regards Pete. ECOS2 with RR&Co Traincontroller and a load of other electronics so i can sit back and watch the trains go by. |
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Perry Erstwhile scratchbuilder
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I had an old loco body shell lying around in the bits box, so I decided to make a start on the Sand-drying Plant. I cut the firebox, running plate, buffer beam and various other extraneous bits and pieces off with a razor saw, and tidied it up with a knife and file. It was apparent that the boiler tube wasn't - a tube, I mean. Because of the shape of the body shell, there was no lower half of the boiler. I fixed this by wrapping some 0.005" plastikard around the lower half to fill it out to a tubular shape. It won't need any structural strength as it will be supported by the brick piers. The piers were made from scraps of 0.040" plastikard, covered with Slaters embossed brick. I don't have a suitable tube for the chimney yet, so I've stood a piece of biro barrel in place, just to get an idea of the height I will require. It will be longer than the one shown in the photo. I cut the gable ends of the hut from 0.040" plastikard and covered them with embossed brick sheet. Side wall blanks have been cut but not covered, as I need to mark out and cut various apertures first. The roof bases layers have also been cut ready for later use. I temporarily joined the parts together with masking tape, to see if the proportions looked right. I used the plans I made up in Sketchup 8, so I didn't think it would be too far out. The only dimension I hadn't worked out was how far the boiler would project, but this is not critical anyway. Here is the progress so far:  Perry ____________________ Due to cutbacks, the light at the end of the tunnel has been switched off. |
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phill Hello 
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That is looking good Perry and its just mocked up at the moment, wathing with interest. Phill |
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Perry Erstwhile scratchbuilder
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I have added a circular vent with louvres in one end wall, clad the remaining walls with embossed brickwork, put a framed skylight in the roof with 'frosted' glass, tiled both halves of the roof and started the tidying up. Still to do are the bargeboards, guttering and downpipes, ridge tiles, door details, pipework to the boiler, sort out slight misalignment of front pier and then.....slap some paint on it! The chimney will be added when I get some suitable plastic tube - probably this weekend.  This is not supposed to be a centrepiece model, but will form part of the general collection of small buildings around the MPD. An outside coal bunker will be added later. Perry ____________________ Due to cutbacks, the light at the end of the tunnel has been switched off. |
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Inspired, Perry.
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Perry Erstwhile scratchbuilder
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MaxSouthOz wrote: Inspired, Perry. True, Max, but only by the folk on here, many of whom I seek to emulate in the quality of their workmanship, your good self being a prime example. That diesel of yours.....now if I could only build like that!  Perry ____________________ Due to cutbacks, the light at the end of the tunnel has been switched off. |
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I'm sure you can.
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Perry Erstwhile scratchbuilder
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Bargeboards, gutters and downpipes, door detailing, ridge tiles and boiler pipework added. Brickwork straightened up on front pier. The gutters were made by using a scraper close to the edge of a strip of 0.040" plastikard to cut the channel, then scraping the edges to round the profile off. The gutter was then cut to width, allowing it to be attached to the wall with solvent. That's just about all I intend adding to this project. I don't want it to become a time-consuming super-detailed piece. All the solvent and glue has to dry now before I give it a coat or two of primer. It would be nice to sort out the chimney first, but it depends on me being able to obtain some suitable material in time.  Perry ____________________ Due to cutbacks, the light at the end of the tunnel has been switched off. |
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Stubby47 Welsh exile
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Don't tell me you've got no imagination !! You can obviously 'see' what you want to build, right down to the last little hinge or piece of pipework, before you start, and then go ahead and build it completely to plan. It might only be a little filler building, but it still has character and a consistency with the rest of your MPD structures. Very nice indeed. ____________________ Stubby47's Model Buildings - http://www.styubby47.co.uk All photos I post are ©Stu Hilton, but are free for use by anyone. The Chacewater to Newquay Railway: Shepherds Halt, Shepherds Station, The Treamble Branch |
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phill Hello
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Now once again a smart building Perry. Phill |
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