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Very nice. :thumbs

If only I had both the skill and the patience..................  I've ruined a decoder and a bit of the valve gear just trying to chip an old Bachmann split chassis Class V1 ................ :oops: :oops: :oops:



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Continuing progress with the Maunsell W. I have given it and the O1 a coat of sprayed black, and have painted the cab interior on the W. Handrails and ejector pipe added from brass wire and tube, although the pipe may be a little oversized. I think it needs a slight amount of tweaking towards the firebox end as well. There is more painting to do before I glaze the cab windows, and start assembling it for keeps.








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More progress.






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That's looking nice and black Jeff.  :thumbs



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Petermac wrote: That's looking nice and black Jeff.  :thumbs
Too black, too clean! 

:mutley :mutley

Once I can number it and add crests, I'll weather it down. I found that pristine black locos actually hide some of their detail, particularly the very fine details present on many of the ready to run items that we can buy nowadays from the regular manufacturers.



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"Black is too Black"

surely as good a case as could ever be made in favour of green, Malachite, Olive or Brunswick, take your pick. I have my favourite!

Somehow the move to black has always felt symbolic for me, coupled with the general decline in exterior upkeep, warning of the coming end of a great and long era.

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Yes, there were some lovely liveries in days long gone, but that was when they had the labour to keep it clean. Any coloured steam loco soon turned dirty black if not maintained well. In model form, dirty black actually shows up details quite well.

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Coincidentally Jeff,  Trevor has just posted a "black" colour mix in his "Hints and Tips" thread.  An interesting mix of black, white and red.



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Petermac wrote: Coincidentally Jeff,  Trevor has just posted a "black" colour mix in his "Hints and Tips" thread.  An interesting mix of black, white and red.

I tend to use a mix of black, dark grey, and a hint of leather (medium brown), or, for a darker mix, some dark brown. For a metallic effect, a hint of dark steel colour also goes in. That lot is not fully mixed, so the colour can vary a bit as it is applied in a thin wash over the original black finish. A bit of matt varnish can also go into the mix.

The effect can be seen on the S15 I did a while back.






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SRman wrote: Yes, there were some lovely liveries in days long gone, but that was when they had the labour to keep it clean. Any coloured steam loco soon turned dirty black if not maintained well. In model form, dirty black actually shows up details quite well.

:hmm

It's an interesting point that the decline in presentation and cleanliness echoed the general decline in railways in the UK from the 1950s on.

If you put it in the context of transport and related infrastructure we almost take for granted today, imagine if your plane turned up at the gate painted in a funereal black with windows, doors etc streaked in accumulated crud, or a taxi or hotel perhaps, would you be at all keen to make your journey, stay? The railways of "days long gone" knew that travel was an experience they had to sell, hence the sharp decor, fittings and presentation. Something important which got lost along the way I'm afraid. 





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Finalising the cab details on the W. I made a rather crude regulator handle out of wire, which will barely be visible anyway once the cab interior is put back inside the body.






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Without wishing to detract from your modelling skills Jeff, the close-up shot of the W Class shows how far modern plastic moulding has come.

Resin used to be the "go-to" product for fine detail but modern plastics and moulding methods have led to unbelievably crisp results.

That S15 using your colour mix looks absolutely superb. :thumbs  I have the odd "kaput" loco so may try my hand at repainting although from my experiences so far, paint and I don't have a great deal in common....................... :hmm



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Yes, the W is a resin body shell that has taken quite a lot of filing and cleaning up to get rid of flash. Some of the new stuff from the major rtr manufacturers leaves it standing for detail.

Thanks for the compliments on the S15. I was pleased with the result. While I have the techniques down fairly well, sometimes they work better than others.



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I have progressed a little more with the W. All the footsteps are in place now, and some Hornby T9 sprung buffers have been glued in place.

I added some bits of 60 thou plastic to the underside if the boiler where the tank cutouts are: one piece is just flat to bridge the width, and the other was cut narrower and filed to a curve to represent the underside of the boiler. This reduces the amount of daylight showing in the first photo through the cutouts. these are unpainted in the second photo.

Some bits of sheet lead were glued into the insides of the side tanks.

I also had to modify the slot in the underside of the rear bogie to allow more side play. This can be seen as the unpainted cream resin in the second photo.

A quick test on the programming track on DC showed all was well, once I cleaned the stray paint off the wheel treads. The chassis is now ready to be hard-wired for DCC operation. As there is plenty of spare room for a normal decoder (unlike in the original N class, where a small decoder took over the pace previously occupied by the small pcb beside the motor); I'm thinking I'll try a Zimo MX600 decoder and see how that behaves.






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I have been productive this morning, while SWMBO slept. Dismantled the Britannia to re-mesh the gears. Painful because Hornby have left only a very limited path for the wires and valve gear to thread through when putting the body back on. That's working nicely now, so I'll have to find my 'William Shakespeare' nameplates and renumber it as 70004 soon.

I came up with a solution for shortening the front pony on the W; on tighter curves, the outside wheel would rub on the back of the buffer beam, causing the pony truck to derail. I cut across it and cut away the webbing (weakening it a bit), then dovetailed the cut pieces into each other and strengthened the joint with a piece of handrail wire drilled through the lot, which shortened it by around 2mm. I had to shorten and adjust the spring as well, and trim the chassis and cylinders to give it clearance, but it did successfully run back and forth around my curves in both directions. I also removed some material from the backs of the front steps to give more room for the pony to swing. I won't say it's reliable yet, but it is getting there. The rear bogie also still needs a bit of fettling to get it to stay level and, eventually, to be able to take some weight behind it when the locomotive is used to actually haul trains.

The W has a Zimo MX600 decoder hard-wired in. The mechanism growls a little at present, but I hope that will settle a bit with more running.








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All this while SWMBO slept !   :shock: :shock:

Whatever you gave her, can I have some please ......... :mutley



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Petermac wrote: All this while SWMBO slept !   :shock: :shock:

Whatever you gave her, can I have some please ......... :mutley

:mutley :mutley :mutley 



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