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 Posted: Mon Nov 24th, 2008 03:06 pm
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Amazing Glazing!

I recently purchased some 1mm thick clear plastic sheet from a local model shop for use as glazing material.

It is called 'NUDEC PETg'. The makers appear to be a Spanish firm who have a website at http://www.nudec.es. (...and before anyone asks, this is a genuine clear plastic product and has nothing at all to do with nudes!)

If the Company is provided with an email address via their website they allow the downloading of a .pdf data sheet for this material. This gives all the information one could possibly need to use this material for all sorts of purposes; moulding, use of adhesives, etc., etc.

It's pretty amazing stuff. It seemed very stiff and brittle when being cut but can be bent cold, by hand, to pretty tight radii without cracking, snapping off or going 'white' along the bend line like some other clear plastics do.

This stuff is pretty amazing. I'm currently experimenting with making the bay windows in one piece, instead of needing three panels for each.

It should be good for making those big glazed canopies seen at some stations, for example.

I haven't tried to find out who else stocks this stuff, but it should be too difficult to find.

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Interesting. Judging from the long list of applications on the website this stuff is all-singing and all-dancing! What sort of quantities did you order, Perry - and how much did it cost?



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I bought a piece approximately A3 size costing £2.99p. The model shop didn't have any bigger sheets as far as I know.

Here are some random experimental bends:



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Now that's some smart glazing material, Perry. A "must have" product for any self respecting scratchbuilder.

Index, no doubt, Bob :question

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It would be a lot better if I had a source for it Jeff. So far I have only been able to find commercial outlets for it, hardly modellers venues.



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still pretty good stuff though,hope we can find a modeller who sells it
which reminds me i had a special spreader made for my hand to help keep it in shape after my op,this is made from a plastic you can mould to any shape you like
you just put it in hot water and it is as soft as plastercine,the nurse said she would get the name of it for me when i go back.

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Sounds interesting. What kind of glues work with it?

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Robert wrote: It would be a lot better if I had a source for it Jeff. So far I have only been able to find commercial outlets for it, hardly modellers venues.

It's a bit weird, Bob. I found it in the model department of a local toy shop. How they came to stock it is anybody's guess. :shock: I'm going to get some more though. :thumbs

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Novice wrote: Perry

Sounds interesting. What kind of glues work with it?

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Take a look at their .pdf file - that gives lots of info. So far, I found that tube-type polystyrene cement doesn't work but EMA Plastic Weld solvent glues it to itself very effectively. I have some more testing to do using other glues and materials.


Correction: EMA solvent will hold it in place, but the joint is NOT strong.

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owen69 wrote: still pretty good stuff though,hope we can find a modeller who sells it
which reminds me i had a special spreader made for my hand to help keep it in shape after my op,this is made from a plastic you can mould to any shape you like
you just put it in hot water and it is as soft as plastercine,the nurse said she would get the name of it for me when i go back.

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I'll try this as the .pdf file mentions this kind of useage. Let us know if you get the name of it, please Owen.

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Cyanoacrylates (superglues) seem to work reasonably well.

I tried dipping a piece of Nudec in very hot water. It became very pliable almost instantly.

Here is a piece I used to experiment with:



To give an idea of scale, this piece is about 2" (50mm) wide.

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Perry, that is what they did for my hand brace,i wonder if its the same thing only in solid white ? when it was soft they just cut it with scissors.
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I like this stuff so much that I took the opportunity to lay in a small stock whilst in the vicinity of my local model shop today. I bought two more A3-sized pieces for a total of £5.98p. With what I already have, it should last me a long time. Plenty of windows there! :doublethumb

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I don't suppose your local shop has an online presence Perry as I am no further forward in finding an online supplier.



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This is where I got mine from:leys Toys Online

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http://www.langleystoys.com

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LangleysHelp@aol.com

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01603 621959

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12-14 Royal Arcade
Gentlemans Walk
Norwich
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What was the material called in the shop Perry as I can't find anything like it on their site?



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It was stored alongside the sheet and strip polystyrene. The backing sheet on it shows it as 'NUDEC PETg'.

There was no labelling on the shelves or cabinets that I could see. Each piece had a simple £2.99 price sticker attached. It was pure chance - and sheer luck - that I found it in the first place as it had been slid on edge between two other display fixtures.

I'm sorry I can't be much more help on this, Bob. I don't even know if this is a regularly stocked item or if it's just a 'fluke'. I never realised it would be so hard to track down another stockist. I too have had a search around on the 'net without success. :sad:

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Not to worry Perry I'll get to the bottom of it eventually. That's if there's any bottom to get to. :lol:



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I sent the following e-mail to Langley Models yesterday :

Hello,
A modelling friend of mine has recently purchased some of this material,
labelled Nudec Petg, from you for use as window glazing on his models. He is
a member of my model railway forum and other members have shown an interest
in this material. I have been to your web site but can find no mention of
it.
Can you tell me if it has a trade name that my members can ask for at other
online outlets or is it available through you on the internet. There has
been much interest shown in this material but we have been unable to find a
supplier other than yourself. As my members are located world wide you can
see that it is not possible for them all to attend your retail premises.
Any help you can give me in this matter will be greatly appreciated.
Yours,
Robert Heath

http://yourmodelrailway.net/
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Had this reply this evening :

Hi Bob,
 
Thank you for your email.
We have a very large number of lines in the store and only carry a selection online. However I shall look into this. The model department could generally be more widely represented on our website than at present.
Regards

Andy Lynn-Smith (Website Manager)
Doesn't help much with our immediate problem of finding a supplier but it might find it's way on to their web site.



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I never understand this - if you sell it why would you not put it on your website?  I would want as many people as possible to see it and hopefully buy it!

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