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longie Full Member 
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 This is where it starts. Beckleigh is a small Southern Region terminus somewhere in north west Hampshire with links to the Somerset & Dorset. I started the layout plan using SCARM which is really good software but does not work on my Mac, so I had to draw it all out in CAD. I was able to print the track plan off at full size to make track laying a bit easier. So this is what it sort of looks like but I have lengthened the bay and the coal sidings a bit. It is under construction in the garage with the track being laid and the platforms built. I will need to clear the garage a bit so I can take some photos. Watch this space! Cheers. ____________________ Graham Long Engineers do it by design. |
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Longchap Full Member 
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Now that looks really good Graham, as it ticks the right boxes for a most interesting BLT with space for landscaping and the station approach and service areas being at the appropriate higher level. Are you using DC or DCC control and how are you handling route setting for turnouts and possibly signals? Following along with great interest. Best, Bill ____________________ At 6'4'', Bill is a tall chap, then again, when horizontal he is rather long and people often used to trip over him! . . . and so a nickname was born  |
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longie Full Member
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I am old school Bill, so DC control and prodding finger for points. As for signals, I have a couple of Ratio kits to build but was not planning to make them operational. I will at some stage need some help with where to place signals, so if you know of an expert?Cheers. ____________________ Graham Long Engineers do it by design. |
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Marty Enjoying the Journey 
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I like the way you have angled the main run of the layout rather than having it parallel to the line of single track to the fiddle yard. Makes such a difference. Good operating potential and plenty of room for scenery. I've purchased my ticket to Beckleigh too. Bring it on. ____________________ Marty N Gauge, GWR West Wales Newcastle Emlyn Layout. Newcastle Emlyn Station is "Under construction" |
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longie Full Member
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I have managed to get some photos of progress so far. This is the scenic break and until I can come up with an original idea it is just the Wills brick arch bridge which I have to say is a really nice kit. Maybe I will put a Hants and Dorset bus on it!!!    ____________________ Graham Long Engineers do it by design. |
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Longchap Full Member
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Very neat Graham, I forgot to mention that busses on bridges are banned from YMRC, so try a grockle towing his caravan stuck in a flock of sheep with a belligerent shepherd, or better still by belligerent sheep! Bill ____________________ At 6'4'', Bill is a tall chap, then again, when horizontal he is rather long and people often used to trip over him! . . . and so a nickname was born |
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Longchap wrote: Very neat Graham,  What a great idea! Mind you buses on bridges are not really banned here.......at least I hope not  As Marty said lots of operational interest. I am not familiar with SR practice but I dont think you need to worry too much about signalling. I guess you will need a starter for the terminus line (maybe bracketed to cover the bay?) I would imagine a lot will be done by ground signals and assuming the signal box is placed so it has line of sight through (under/over?) the road bridge, the home signal and advanced starter, if you need it,/distant can all be off scene. Dont take that as gospel there may well be other opinions  . ____________________ John Granby III Lenz DCC,RR&Co Gold V9 B4 Windows 10 |
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Looks good Graham.  Terry |
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Longchap wrote: Very neat Graham, Does that include Railbusses as well then our Bill ?  Looking good Graham, signals yeah, tall things wi lights on top that change colour, thats my knowledge exhausted ! Luckily some on here know more Cheers Matt Watching with interest ____________________ Wasnie me, a big boy did it and ran away "Why did you volunteer ? I didn't Sir, the other three stepped backwards" |
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Longchap Full Member
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Barchester wrote: Longchap wrote:Ha! Railbuses on'troad? Whatever next, sheep on'trailway?Very neat Graham, Now there's a cameo waiting to happen  Bill ____________________ At 6'4'', Bill is a tall chap, then again, when horizontal he is rather long and people often used to trip over him! . . . and so a nickname was born |
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https://www.dezeen.com/2017/11/06/worlds-first-driverless-trackless-train-launches-china-zhuzhou-transport-design/ Case rested. . Sorry for the temporary diversion, back to Beckleigh. Cheers Matt ____________________ Wasnie me, a big boy did it and ran away "Why did you volunteer ? I didn't Sir, the other three stepped backwards" |
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longie Full Member
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Thanks for the tips!!! I do quite like the idea of some sheep though, watch this space. I will have to draw up a signalling diagram to see what you all think. Cheers. ____________________ Graham Long Engineers do it by design. |
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Longchap Full Member
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C. J. Freezer's Model Railway Signalling is one of the easier volumes to help get one's head round the subject. It's still taking a while, but it's begining to sink in! As John says, you can usually use ground signals for most branch roads and just a starter on the platform, with all other signals 'off layout'. I've bought one of Dapol's posts with a starter on a bracket. It has a tiny illuminated lamp behind the lens on the arm, complete with wiring and switch for added authenticity. All assembled and ready to install and SR are represented! Bill ____________________ At 6'4'', Bill is a tall chap, then again, when horizontal he is rather long and people often used to trip over him! . . . and so a nickname was born |
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Marty Enjoying the Journey
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John Dew wrote: Longchap wrote:Very neat Graham, I'm no expert on signalling but I do have the following books to recommend if you are interested in signalling: Railway signalling and track plans by Bob Essery Published by Ian Allan Publishing 2007 ISBN (10) 0 7110 3215 7 and Aspects of Modelling - Signalling by Nigel Digby also published by Ian Allan Publishing 2010 ISBN 978 0 7110 3427 3 John is mostly correct. There is a fundamental starting place with single line branch line terminus stations though. Paraphrasing Bob Essery, Signals are unnecessary at the terminal end of a single-line branch on which only ONE engine in steam is allowed at a time and which is, therefore, worked by an Ordinary Train Staff without tickets. That is, if the engine driver has not been given the single line staff from the signal box up the line he can't go on the line and therefore no signals are required to control and safeguard multiple trains. However, in ANY other circumstance where more than one engine in steam is allowed on the single line section from the signal box further up the line to the terminus a FULL complement of signals must be provided in accordance with exactly the same principals that apply on an ordinary double line. If it is to be more than one engine then I'm thinking that layout would not need an advanced starter and therefore require a bracket starter at the foot of the signal box stairs with the bay platform starter a reduced arm (if you want to go that far). If you want an advanced starter (hold an outbound train on the single line between the starter and the advanced starter - I can't think why you would? Then the bay starter would be a ground signal.) Coming into the station the distant would be fixed because it is a terminus and has to be sited sufficiently far from the Home signal to enable the driver to bring his train to a stand from the full line speed allowed. As John says, in your case most definitely off scene. The Home (stop) signal marks the end of the previous block section and the start of the station limits controlled by the terminus signal box. In your case I would think that it would have to be far enough back from the toe of the bay points to allow any shunting using the single branch line as a head shunt to occur. (Although there are sometimes specific orders signalmen can use to allow another train to approach while the branch beyond the home is being used to shunt) Home location therefore will depend on the length of your longest train needing shunting into the bay. I would go for the fiddle yard side of the bridge with the signal arm tall enough so that the signalman in his box can see what aspect the signal is displaying over the bridge. I can have a look and see what Bob and Nigel say about the ground signals if you think you will go that far. Oh... and depending on how enthusiastic you are going to be, in most cases passenger traffic was protected from runaway traffic by catch points. There would probably be a set in the first cross over of the loop... and probably at the exit to the bay too. As I say, not an expert, just reading the books and get a buzz out of block working and signals. (There.... I've said it. Out of the box... so to speak. ) Others may have refinements to the above and in the end YOU need to have fun with your railway... which you obviously are. Enjoy ____________________ Marty N Gauge, GWR West Wales Newcastle Emlyn Layout. Newcastle Emlyn Station is "Under construction" |
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longie Full Member
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Books on order. Thanks for the help. I will look at the Dapol ones but the seem a bit pricey.Cheers. ____________________ Graham Long Engineers do it by design. |
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Marty Enjoying the Journey
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This is looking very good indeed, so far. And that signal box is quite pretty!
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All looking good to me, and the photography is also great.... Michael ____________________ Kent Coast Railway (formerly Faversham Creek) |
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longie Full Member
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It is a very nice signal box but my station building is brick and the box is stone! I think I might change it later for a brick LSWR type 4 box.Cheers. ____________________ Graham Long Engineers do it by design. |
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Thanks Headmaster, the photos were only taken with my iPad!!!Cheers. ____________________ Graham Long Engineers do it by design. |
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