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 Posted: Sat Mar 27th, 2021 08:37 pm
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The central core of my 9C layout is the NSR loco shed at Hibel Road. The boundaries follow scenic features, but this gives the enclosed area a combination of the shapes of an elongated pentagon and a banana.

What are the arguments for and against constructing the baseboard with these unconventional edges in order to hide the joins with adjacent sections, in contrast to keeping it regular and having more exposed baseboard joins?

Also, the entire shed area would require a banana of approximately 6' 9" by 2' 9". That would be cumbersome, even as a club centrepiece.

Would any of you like to throw in some comments, either one way or the other?

For reference: the uncut board with the plan laid on is a full sized 8' by 4'.




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My only thoughts are to possibly split the board into three sections
The left section would either be aprox 4'x 2' ish ? Or a banana shape wrapping round the track

The middle section and right hand section sizes, would depend on your best place for cutting through the rail lines

Treat these sections as SUB bases. The middle and right sections would have the track fixed down and wiring underneath etc with a split in the best place

Now divide the scenic areas up into manageable chunks with scenery built on removable dioramas which can cross over the joins but be lifted off in sections so the boards underneath can be divided and moved if necessary. You can always build up the area containing track to match the height of the separate diorama boards that sit on top.
Each diorama board can be made to a size/ shape that works in with a natural boundry feature, but DOESN'T have to match a board join underneath

An added bonus is that each diorama area can be removed and worked on more comfortably, away from the main layout boards

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Hmmm,

I'd thought of splitting it in two, but not into three or four. Thanks, Matt.

Perhaps the NS goods shed and cattle dock from as far back as a hidden joint under the engine shed, together with the approach road and eastern LNW buildings, on one larger segment. The mainline, western LNW station buildings and tunnel portal on a second. Perhaps turntable, coal stage, carriage sidings and up to the middle of the (lift off) engine shed on the third one?

Very rough sketch added to illustrate those suggestions.




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Looks like A plan :thumbs. The added bonus of the separate dioramas is you can do more than one to fit an area. Do a simple scenic one first to just cover the sub base while you work on something more complex, OFF the layout to replace the simple one
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The NS side of Hibel Road bridge, which will be on another board, will be represented by a fiddle for at least the next couple of years. A second fiddle behind the tunnel façade will stand in for Stockport and Manchester (London Road).

Quick bit of history.... the original (LNW) station was at the other end of the tunnel. As they came south, the NS were building north. At the time, there wasn't any animosity so the joint station was built with the LNW north of the road and the NS south of it. Technically, the NS had to use their permitted running powers to reach their own engine shed and goods yard. Both companies ran separate services over the entire line(s) from Manchester to Birmingham. Later, tensions grew between the LNW and NS and when the MS&L (later GC) made overtures to run into the joint station from Marple and Bollington it was welcomed by the NS (who would then have two alternate routes to London Road). The LNW, however, were not happy and blocked the MS&L's entrance into the north side of Hibel Road station. The NS countered by building *another* station just 700 yards to the south and running the Macclesfield, Bollington and Marple line through an elongated S curve to connect south of Hibel Road. After grouping, LMS trains to London Road via Stockport stopped at Hibel Road and LMS/LNER joint services to London Road via Marple stopped at Central. The LMS ran right to Euston once a day, but the joint services went no further than Stafford or Uttoxeter.

The south (NS) end of Hibel Road station and the coal merchants will be phase 2, followed by Macclesfield Central in phase 3, the MB&M branch line as phase 4, the GC goods next, the 'scenic' area around the gasworks will follow and finally phase 7 will be the completion of the hidden yards, storage roads, turning loops and other backstage malarky underneath the rising moorland east of town. That should comfortably take us well into the 2030s.



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