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Looks great. I'll have to remember about it when I come to ballast the upper line.
The changes you have made a re starting to come together now.



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I'm still drooling over your row of houses and rocky bank Michael - absolutely fabulous !

That ballasting vacuum does look an interesting bit of kit - I wonder how it compares with the likes of the Proses ballasting aid. :hmm



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Thank you Chris and Peter.  It's coming along.
I think the existing ballasting aids simply help to spread it around.  The Vacuum cleans it all up, no need for all that careful brushing.  In the pictures, the ballast is all loose - no glue involved yet, so it is not for tidying up, it actually gets it all even and level, ready for gluing in the usual way.  I'm sure more experienced modellers would not need it, but for me, ballasting is so painful, time consuming and tricky to get right, the Vac does it all in seconds.  Even if I spent 10 minutes on a small section, it would still be worth it.

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I could not agree more!



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I had an experiment with painting rails today.  The sleepers have been painted in a dirty brown - it's a citadel paint so has a forgettable and weird name, but I like the colour and it is quite matte, so a good choice.  It does not really show up in the photo, but is noticeably different from the plastic colour.  Normally I do the rail a grimy grey/brown but decided to try a rust colour based on local pictures.  *I'm not sure.  The light is shining straight at it in the photo, so it looks a little "brighter" than in reality.  It is a Valejo "light rust" with a touch of dark rust added to stop it looking too orange.  It is not as grimy as some photos of track I have, but nor is it as bright orange as some others.  I think it is quite a good rust colour, but is it right for the rails?  Let me know what you think.
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It's not so easy to tell on a computer, as you'll know of course, but I think that's too red towards orange. How about more grey/brown than red.



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I agree with Peter on both counts - difficult to tell on a computer but I too think it's a bit too "copper" coloured.   Maybe less "shine" and more "flat" brown .............



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https://thumbs.dreamstime.com/z/rusty-railway-tracks-old-finland-75766904.jpg

I searched this
rust on railway tracks         and found the above link via Images   so many different colours of rust



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Wow Sol - that's a strange colour and you're right - on a model railway that would be considered far too bright, almost toy-like.  

Obviously in UK we have a better quality rust, more, shall we say " reserved"  :roll: .... :mutley :mutley :mutley



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Sol wrote: https://thumbs.dreamstime.com/z/rusty-railway-tracks-old-finland-75766904.jpg

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rust on railway tracks         and found the above link via Images   so many different colours of rust


You have made the point very well Sol - in real life there are all sorts of rusty rail colours, and you managed to find quite an extreme example.  I wonder if the colours were enhanced at all?  I think your point is correctly made, that there isn't a "correct" colour, I'm sure you would agree that colours need to scale well to look realistic. 

I think all your fresh eyes help to confirm what I was thinking myself.  As you have said, it is difficult to tell from a photo, but then as that is how people will actually see my railway, I need to get it right for the camera.  

Yes, Peter, I need an "English, reserved rust"!

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Hello,
I would imagine that the rust by the coast would be much different to the rails inland, and also as to how much use it gets.. just a thought
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This was taken at Birkdale station last week - I, like you, am interested in rust colours.  This looks very brown but it is modern rail (if that makes a difference???)



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Thank you all for your feedback and taking the time to comment or send pictures, it has all been most helpful.  I decided to give the rail a wash in a dirty grey brown, the results are below.  The result is a more uneven colour along the rail length which is an immediate improvement, and losing the glow in the dark rust colour.  Perhaps more so than I intended, but altogether more pleasing to my eye.

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That, to me Michael, is a big improvement.  I'd even go so far as saying it's ideal.   :pathead



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Thank you Peter.  I quite agree, it is a big improvement.
The last update for a couple of weeks as we start our Jollies tomorrow.  Amazingly, I started the ballasting, something I usually put off as long as I can!













A couple of weeks should be enough time for it to dry solid!  Then some weather powders or washes to dirty it all up.  This stretch is about 4ft long and took about half an hour to ballast, tidy up (very little needed) and glue.  That is an absolute dream for me!

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Wow - that looks great Michael.  Is it the granite ballast ?

Enjoy your hols and stay safe.   :thumbs

I was going to ask the standard question - "going anywhere nice ?" but resisted.

The standard answer to that question ought to be "no - we love to spend our holidays in some grubby little hell-hole where no self respecting human being would dream of venturing - that way we avoid the crowds" .........  :cheers



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 Thank you Peter.  No it's not granite.  I made the mistake of buying granite on my first model board and it turned green when I glued it.  It's Noch ballast, because that is what my local model shop sells.  it has a bit of a shine to it, but I can get rid of that once everything is dry.
As to the holiday, we skipped the grubby hell hole this year, but you make it sound so nice!  But hopefully good weather, good food.... and no crowds!

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I agree that that looks much better. The ballast is good too. Have a great holiday... going somewhere nice? ;-)



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Hi Ron. Very good rust you have there, but, it looks like you don’t get much traffic on that line. It may be good to compare the track at Dawlish Warren, especially after a high tide, or a rush hour track in London, that looks really black with a shiny topside. Best wishes Kevin 



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Petermac wrote: That, to me Michael, is a big improvement.  I'd even go so far as saying it's ideal.   :patheadand I agree....


To me,ballasting is a way to switch off & let it be done on auto-pilot.



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