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 Posted: Wed Apr 27th, 2022 11:56 pm
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Hi Phil and Colin, Many thanks for your feedback.
I have been using IPA for many years and decided to try out  Inox to see if it works any better.
Its more an experiment and definitely not a recommendation.
I am spraying it on the pad of the CMX tank rather than using the tank as it only requires a little - as Colin pointed out, it doesn't evaporate.
As I have only been using it for a few weeks its too early to tell if it will better in the long term and from my perspective will not reduce the amount of time I spent on track cleaning. 
I will post my experiences as time progresses.
 



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John Dew wrote:
Thanks Dave

I have good news and bad news:
The good news : I can buy 100 gm of INOX in Canada for $15 :lol:
The bad news :    It will cost $45 for delivery etc etc. :shock:  Alternatively Amazon Prime will deliver it FREE for $65  :twisted:
A combination of this and Phil's comment mean I am having second thoughts! Although I will be interested to hear how you and Pete get on with spraying it on to the CMX pad

Another question is about the preferred method of propulsion:
PeteM pushes    PhilC pulls   You push AND pull       are there any other bids? :lol:

Looks like you have the same issue as we do in Australia when you try to buy something from overseas via Amazon and a few big name online stores -
I agree that you should give experimenting a miss and stick to the tried and trusted.! 
In the past I have experimented with liquid track cleaners - one in particular comes to mind that smelt of oranges - it was sticky and I only used it once!!
So far with INOX in conjunction with the CMX truck the results have been good and to date I have not experienced any dust/ hair etc  attraction - but it is early days yet!  I have noticed that my small locos and sound locos are not prone to the same cutting out that I occasionally experience if the track is not spotlessly clean but again this may be a coincidence.

In regards to the push and pull - I'm sure you had your tongue planted in your cheek - but for the record before I "discovered" the two American locos I used a single class 33 Heljan that was strong enough to push and pull the CMX around the track . I guess the optimal way is to push so that any crud is picked up before it gets to the loco wheels but this is not always practical especially if RR&Co is controlling the loco and sending it along all clear tracks.



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peterm wrote: Yes Colin,

I got stuck in yesterday. Cleaned track with IPA and then applied Inox. No difference and I did think the dust attraction might be a complication.

Back to IPA after a wasted hour and a half!

John,

Don't bother! I can't see where all these adoring comments come from on his website, but I won't be adding to them. Inox is made in Australia, so might be hard to get hold of anyway.

Hi Peter,
Sorry if I wasted your time - I'm finding that with the CMX wagon a small amount of Inox sprayed on the pad is cleaning the track and there is no need for the IPA.  As for the dust attraction - the jury is still out.



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gdaysydney wrote: peterm wrote: Yes Colin,

I got stuck in yesterday. Cleaned track with IPA and then applied Inox. No difference and I did think the dust attraction might be a complication.

Back to IPA after a wasted hour and a half!

John,

Don't bother! I can't see where all these adoring comments come from on his website, but I won't be adding to them. Inox is made in Australia, so might be hard to get hold of anyway.

Hi Peter,
Sorry if I wasted your time - I'm finding that with the CMX wagon a small amount of Inox sprayed on the pad is cleaning the track and there is no need for the IPA.  As for the dust attraction - the jury is still out.
No not at all. You supplied a link and I chose to dive in. Maybe I overdid it with the Inox. I might even run round with a clean rag to wipe off any excess I might have put on.



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I enjoyed the rant, at least he got the bit about abrasive cleaning pads right. They just create scratches that gunk collects in. Plus there is a significant decrease in adhesion and traction. 

IPA 70% and above does not leave water on the track. When evaporating the IPA takes the water with it (the IPA reduces the surface tension allowing coevaporation). An OWT. 

MX3 is light mineral oil with an unspecified ketone in it. Cleans the track and leaves a layer of oil which evaporates very slowly and will attract dust and gunk from locomotives. Wonder what does to the traction? The GWR used to lube up a siding at Fairford and run stationary steam locomotives on it to determine the speed at which wheel lift (from piston throw) occured. 


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I did a bit of research on INOX MX3 - it's basically white mineral oil with some proprietary (secret) additives, including an unspecified ketone. If left it dries to a hard finish. I suspect once you start using it you can't stop and let it dry out.

White mineral oil is around $8 for 16 fl oz (473 ml) from Amazon US. INOX MX3 is $7.95 for 125ml.

IPA solutions leave no residue (unless you inadvertently use rubbing alcohol). MX3 apparently will.

It sounds interesting for treating electrical connections and the like, but I'll stick with the prototype for the rails - metal to metal.

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