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Having recently moved, I have found space to be at an even higher premium, and being I am spending most of my time at work or with the other half, I wanted to get back in to the hobby, but had to down size, and down scale.

Planning started with numerous plans being drawn up in anyrail, Aiming for a 5 foot by 1 foot total layout, with 3 foot scenic and 2 foot fiddle yard, I was very drawn to a version of the layout plan for kingscross found on this page http://www.carendt.com/micro-layout-design-gallery/passenger-lines/

My planned trackplan is below



the base board is already built and I have started to collect a few items, but may be after christamas when results may be seen.










 

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Hi Aaron

Which track is the entry track, and is this a single line layout.
If it is I assume the middle track is the mainline.
I ask as the top line can only access the main platform, the middle all tracks, and the lower the top bay.

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Hi Aaron,

Good start and I like the Western. Looks good in blue livery.

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paul_l wrote: Hi Aaron

Which track is the entry track, and is this a single line layout.
If it is I assume the middle track is the mainline.
I ask as the top line can only access the main platform, the middle all tracks, and the lower the top bay.

Paul

the layout will show the last few platforms of a much larger terminal, so I could get way with any line in or out, but the main idea is top line is passenger and parcels in, middle line is passenger out, bottom line is a parcels head shut line that would join the main line off scene so can be a parcels in and out. 
the station from top to bottom goes passengers in platform, passengers out platform, pilot/loco/van bay, parcels platform, opposite the parcels platform is a short storage line.
the layout will heavily use a station pilot which I hope will be a class 22.
I hope this makes sense?

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Hi Aaron

I have a similar based trackplan for my layout (probably derived from the same site :roll:)

http://yourmodelrailway.net/view_topic.php?id=11164&forum_id=21&page=1

And just for interest elevated the whole thing :brickwall

The bit I really miss is the lack of a run round loop of some form - It will now be fixed by the use of the traverser, and the head shunt.

The lesson I've learnt, is pin the track down (or for N you could use bits of double sided tape) and play - sorry test the track plan prior to fixing permanently down.

Good luck

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Nice plan Aaron.

But I've gotta ask, what have you done with the OO gauge version?

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Ed wrote: Nice plan Aaron.

But I've gotta ask, what have you done with the OO gauge version?

Ed


Its back at the family home, gathering dust :roll:

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That's a shame :sad:


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paul_l wrote: Hi Aaron

I have a similar based trackplan for my layout (probably derived from the same site :roll:)

http://yourmodelrailway.net/view_topic.php?id=11164&forum_id=21&page=1

And just for interest elevated the whole thing :brickwall

The bit I really miss is the lack of a run round loop of some form - It will now be fixed by the use of the traverser, and the head shunt.

The lesson I've learnt, is pin the track down (or for N you could use bits of double sided tape) and play - sorry test the track plan prior to fixing permanently down.

Good luck

Paul

Nice Thread by the way, I really like the raising the track level, I've been tempted to do the same thing and have been stashing polystyrene under the bed from flat pack furniture for the very purpose. 

I plan to use mostly set track (being lazy) and will play around with the track plan until I am happy with it, 

my 00 gauge kingsmead never had a run round loop, which at first I found a bit annoying, but after creating a few isolated sections and heavy use of a station pilot made for some interesting shunting.

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for reference purposes
00 gauge Kingsmead

http://yourmodelrailway.net/view_topic.php?id=10669&forum_id=21

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Hi Aaron

I used a sheet of 2" insulation, then cheated and used a band saw to cut it into strips to give me the correct height.
If you are going to do the layout elevated, I suggest you take each dropper from the rail below the base board. I connected the feeds together before passing below the base board. Now if I wish to install block detection etc, I will have to rip away the retaining walls. Doh !!!

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AN UPDATE: Been a while

A Refined Track Plan; No promises


Fiddle yard is the dashes track, terminus station with three platforms on right hand side, a goods line, stabling point and coach storage line on the left hand scenic side.

This track plan will allow me to do most things I want to, The running of short goods trains such as dairy , fuel and vans, small amount of parcels to be handled during quite times, three coach trains, locos on display at the short pilot track and at the stabling point.

 




Over all view

 




Loco stabling and coach storage




Class 52 in the 'to be' stabling yard




Class 22 entering the station

That's All folks,

Best Regards and Seasonal Greetings

Aaron

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Thats a good improved running plan Aaron.
Great photos and best of luck with the build.
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Hi Aaron,

It's looking good. Especially the last shot with the 22. A particular favourite of mine.

Best of luck with the rest of the build.

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it's all change at Kingsmead, After going into the model shop at Swindon to buy some N Gauge kits, the girlfriend stated that she much prefer 00 gauge and would love to build some of the Metcalfe kits, well that thru a spanner in the works and enticed that niggle thought I had in the back of my head, "why don't you swap back to 00 gauge", so after a five minuet think in the shop I thought why shouldn't I, already got most of the stuff.

So upon arriving home that day I drew up a track plan, I hold no credit from this as it is a HUGE rip off of Victoria Park, Ian Futers 0 gauge micro layout, featuring in Railway Modeller, December 2009. I also drew inspiration form South Oak Road, John Wiffen (scalescenes) 00 gauge mirco layout for which there is little trace of left on the internet, But I was a huge follower of the Feed when the layout was progressing back in 2009, 2010.


The layout Is incredible basic, on the right hand side is the off scene fiddle yard and control area, to the left hand side is a three platform station which has seen better days and has been reduced to mostly parcels traffic and the DMU services (when I buy a class 121/122 when released) there's also a kick back which will be used for stabling locos and pilot.

For the first time I decide, that this time I'm not going to half hash it up, and so upon receiving the track, I proceed with painting the rail sides with a dark umber, then I laid the track, and for the first time, proceed to place and wire up point motors :brickwall once the layout was completed wired up with point, isolation sections and power points, I built the platforms and half built the cinema with the other half, I have also added uncoupling ramps for complete hand of god free operation, another first for me :Happy.

 

since the other half has started to build the bank, while I crack on with the back scene (another further first) Below are some photos of current progress

 



Overall shot of the layout ^




The Platforms ^

 




 

A view from the buffer stop of the stabling siding, all wiring and point motors are top of the board mounted, I found this easier,, two of the motors will be behind the retaining walls and below the street scene, only one point motor will require a clever disguise.




The cinema and the tube station which I picked up at a bargain price.

 

I was wondering if one of the moderators would be kind enough to update the scale of the thread from N to 00, I didn't want to clutter up the site with another thread, and thought it best to press on with this thread.

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All done Aaron.

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Many Thanks Alan, Much appreciated :cheers

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Welcome back Aaron.

This looks good :thumbs

So this time I'll ask, what's happened to the N gauge stuff :mutley



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Ed wrote: Welcome back Aaron.

This looks good :thumbs

So this time I'll ask, what's happened to the N gauge stuff :mutley



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Hi Ed,
It's all been boxed up and put into storage, the great part about N gauge is that it doesn't take a lot of space to store it all, I will most likely recycle the Retaining wall as bridge supports.
You Never know, I might even find space for a N gauge layout on the side, But I wouldn't expect that for a good number of years.
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Just a quick update, town scene back scenes have been mounted and an attempt at clouds has been made by smudging pencil graphite on the paper by hand, also first kit of retain wall has been built, the buttresses have been cut down and the top walling hasn't been added yet, this will have to wait until the street level has been properly raised up, at the moment the cinema is standing on two blocks of polystyrene.

 



 

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Mobile Phone Photo Upload,

One of the benefits of modern phones is you can quickly snap a shot to record progress, the problem is getting them posted, this is going to be a quick post of a few photos showing how the layout started and the progress over the past few weeks and this weekend, I hope to do a proper update post on progress to date following on from this one.

Below; the layout at the very start, after the N gauge track had been ripped up, and the 00 gauge track placed in-situ



Below; Buildings and retaining wall placed to give a feel of the layout, platforms in-situ







 

Below; retaining wall being installed along with a number of other details



 

Below; Dapol signal gantry with Berko lights, I have decide to only install two started signals rather than three, this was due to restricted space in the switch area as the signals were an after thought








 

Below; further retaining wall installed and the signal gantry



 

Below; an over all picture of the layout from last night, tunnel mount installed





Below; The Kingsmead Tube Station from Kingsmead Mark 2 has been rescued and modified for Kingsmead Mark 3 (Mark 4 if you included my brief dabble in N gauge)




Below; Using foam Board I have raised up the street level



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Above; The platform ends, the wires for the lighting are ready to receive the lighting unit, the section above the platforms will be removable to allow cleaning, the back scene on the inside of the platforms shows a station concourse, and further platforms.

 



Above, signal gantry settled in with ladder and the tunnel entrance to the station





Above, part of the street scene, I am happy with the tube station location, but the need to build more shops on the right build a realistic scene on the right hand side




Above; the point motors (dummy), concrete trunking and relay boxes painted and in place.

 

Next step, ballasting (oh fun) and more buildings, really need to get in contact with Kingsway models

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Looking great, Aaron.  :thumbs

Are you planning to exhibit?

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Hi Max
I haven't built the layout with the intent of exhibiting, but if once the layout is completed it might be an option open to the layout if the interest is there, though a new fiddle yard would be required.

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Looking good Aaron, I like the back scene in the station. It really blends in nicely and throws the space wide open.

Good stuff

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Hi toto, 
Its one thing that I have learnt is that on small layouts, it's required to add the feel that there is more space than meets the eye.
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Hi, It has been a while since I have updated progress with the railway, one of the reasons has been that my old Netbook died on me so have had to go out and buy a new shiny laptop, any excuses really :mutley

One of the things I have done, is construct the station building, this is the 'black cat tavern' from Kingsway's models, but built it as low relief building rather than a corner building, It has been added too with some Metcalfe canopies left over from Kingsmead mark II, and a home made station sign.




The bank and shop Metcalfe kit has been finished and put along side the station building, and a small shop has been put in at the end to form a alley way along the side of the bank.



The corner agents/office building has been made into a pub instead, to me it looks better as a pub,




Another pub on the corner, and between is the cinema with wine shop and book shop, and the tube station, a lot of places to get drink on this layout.



the Grain of wheat bulbs have been installed on a separated circuit, powered by the ex-N gauge controller, and some plastic I beams to hide the wiring. the track has been partly ballasted, though there is till more to do.



I was at the Bristol model railway exhibition at thornbury the other weekend and managed to pick up some goodies form myself, theses have been initial weathered




 

well, that's all folks, till next

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Popped in to the model shop earlier this week and saw something that I couldn't refuse, It is a converted Lima class 117, Its in Br blue grey which is a bit to late for my layout, but it shouldn't take too much to re-spray in BR blue, and re-number the pair, a project for the summer.






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Lots of little bits of progress, but haven't had time to do a complete update, I have added third rail to the main line, as I have been looking at some of the southerner EMU's, Steel girders are being put into place, and terrace houses are being built, the stabling area has had a water crane added and a few bits of 'old tat' to spice the area up,




Terrace houses being built up, all just plonked in place,,

 




The Hymek in the parcels platform, you can just see the buffer beam of a second hand 'mainline' class 03, needs some work to it, another job to add to the list, but now frees up the class 22 for other duties. Photo taken from the main platform, I have tried to make the image look 70's-ish  

 



Hymek again, taken from the stabling point, just see the water crane on the right, though a bit blurred. again modified to try for a 70's look

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Having moved recently, I haven't been able to get around to the railway layout until today, The layout has been placed in the so called 'dressing area' which is an extra width corridor between the bathroom and the bedroom at the top of the stairs. this area only has a skylight which has a blackout blind so there is no risks of sunlight fading the colours of the railway. The area is also well lit by the rather interesting spotlights which help with my eyes when things get fiddly.

Having today and tomorrow off on holiday to take time to enjoy my 24th birthday, I have finally gotten around to fixing the damage caused during the move, I have also been to the model shop, and had a running session with my new purchase, Class 33's have been a favourite locomotive of mine, but since I sold my three lima class 33's nearly two years ago, I have been without, until today, I now have a Heljan pre-TOPS, BR Blue class 33.

Below is a photo taken during the running session, Hope you enjoy, Hopefully with the wet and wonderful autumn and winter on its way, I should be doing some progress on the railway.

 



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Nothing using the third rail yet then, Aaron.


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Ed wrote: Nothing using the third rail yet then, Aaron.


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Not yet, I have been looking at some third rail EMU's, but I don't think I will be picking one up untill the Swindon model show at the steam museum in September,

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Managed to find some time to get on and build, kind of scratch built a bus depot from bits and bobs of Metcalfe kits, and combine the two house I had in to one.




And Finally got an EMU for the third rail :Happy

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I have started working on the telephone exchange, part of my work has involved surveying telecom rooftop towers on BT telephone exchanges and has meant that I have done a number of visits to such building in London.

 




 

An over view of this side of the layout, Original going to be two store terrace houses, it has now change to a three storey terrace house, a bus garage and a telephone exchange, still lots to do, including another back scene board.

 




 

An over all view of the layout, including the fiddle yard and controls.

 




The early morning parcels sits at the platform awaiting for reloading.

 




A class 52 western arrives wit a short parcels train, possible a GUV or BG from Paddington destine for Kingsmead

 



The class 03 station pilot waits for its next duty, with its match wagon, which requires a little work, thinking of some yellow and black striping on the ends and some suitable shunting junk on the top, a shunting pole and a few bits and bobs

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Hi all again,

not much done, been mostly running the locos during the odd spare moment, in other news, myself and the other half went to see Mary Poppins at the theatre over the weekend which was most enjoyable.

 

As some may have noticed I have been looking in to tree grates for the base of some trees the main reason being that I am laying the pavements below are just some progress shots.

 



 






 

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Oh, don't forget the kerbstones!

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Longchap wrote: Oh, don't forget the kerbstones!

Cheers,

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Kerb stones, that's another added to the list, must be honest, I have never done them before, time to think of a solution, Have thought about iron/steel kerb stones like in Bristol, but have never seen them in London myself, if they ever were used they were probably pulled up for scrap during the early 40's, thinking I might have to add a strip of painted card, cut down to make individual stones

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Progress, Well Paving, slowly laying paving and Krebs which is rather boring but necessary.



I have added another tree and tree grate outside the cinema



I think I have managed to avoid the obvious step down on to the tube floor



Looking forward to some goodies this Christmas, so that should be my next post.

merry Christmas to all, and to all a happy new year

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Been a month since my last update, and a bit has happened,

First Up...Projects,

First there is the station canopy that I have started, after much deliberation, I decide That although It will obstruct views, in real life one would most likely exist, to keep parcels dry during loading an unloading, I built the roof out of card, used some thin wood to form the cladding, some plastic 'I' and 'RSA' Beams I had about as strengtheners, and used the markers for the uncoupling ramps which I had not used as the supports, I am quite happy with it although it still needs finishing with paints and scale-scenes papers, I based it upon Worcester shrub hill station, image can be found here,

http://www.railaroundbirmingham.co.uk/Stations/worcs_shrub_hill.php











The second is the very smart 'low relief department store' kit from metcalfe, I have brought two of theses kits, One kit was missing the lazer cut parts but after an email to metcalfe, a replacement was sent, free of charge, very happy with that,


I am unsure if to build theses into a hotel, or a restaurant on the ground floor with a snooker club on the first, I might have to build up a few more units of the kit to see what takes my fancy.





Next up, Christmas goodies,

First up, a bachmann class 03, this has been renumbered to pre-tops br blue example and the internal lighting has been 'turned off' by a bit of tape over the connectors as I found it a bit too much.





Next up is a Bachmann class 42, this I managed to weather over the Christmas period as-well






Also got some Mark one coaches, to replace the ones I traded in over a year ago, theses still need renumbering but I couldn't resist them due to there weathering, I envisage one of theses coaches being added to a parcels train during non-peak times for the odd passenger or two.



Also some mark 1 suburban coaches for more rush hour services



also got some other bits and bobs, some newsagents and post office telephone vans, and a pipe wagon,

Now just to end on a 'moody' shot, Must finish the canopy.



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Coming along nicely Aaron :thumbs


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Many thanks Ed,

Been working on the canopy tonight, in front of the telly with a pint,


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Spurno wrote: That's the only way Aaron.:cheers


Defiantly is, Been up to some more over the weekend


One thing I have been thinking of is a crew room of sorts near the stabling point, so a quick rummage round the metcalfe spares box and managed to knock together this, going to see if it grows on me, and if it dose, Ill finish it off.






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Been a while since I have updated, this has been mostly due to a busy summer and spring occupied with the garden, cycling and walking. But now the summer is over and the darker days are drawing in, I have made a start on the annual repairs required to the railway, dusting, building repairs and track cleaning.

One thing I have done is shorten Kingsmead tube station, on the previous incarnation of Kingsmead is was a dual level tube station for access from the road level and the railway platforms, but now its additional height seemed far too imposing. Now shortened I feel happier about the station.



I have also done a little project on a post office van which will sit on the platform, to add some character to the vehicle I have set the wheels to an angle to give the impression that it has been steered into position and parked. This was done by breaking the wheels from the axle pin, super gluing the axle pin in location, using a scalpel to open the axel holes on the wheels, and regluing the wheels on at the required angle.





And now for a photo to keep you going till next time.


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With the darker evenings, and the snooker season started, I have found some time to get on with the railway. I have also been filling in the ‘railway book’ with details of the stock, train formations, and shunting moves, in an effort to help form a timetable, and to also justify the types of trains and formations seen, as well as their destinations.  
Firstly, there are three building on the railway that haven’t grown on me, ‘Pandora’s fashion’ shop by the station building, the Odeon Cinema, and the neighbouring  ‘Crown and Anchor’ pub.
 
Pandora’s fashion shop has been changed to an entrance to the ‘Kingsmead Indoor Market’, with the shop front being rebuilt as double doors and a sign change. This would be one of a number of entrances to a market that would run along the side of the station and behind the buildings on the main streets. This would also give one of the reasons for the station surviving, with short van trains supplying perishable goods each morning.


 
The cinema canopy has been re-made to be a better representation of what can be seen in period photos, I am looking at re-naming the cinema but haven’t yet had an effective solution. I am still scheming on the ‘Crown and Anchor’ pub, and its looking like London brick paper and a new roof design.


 
One thing I have been wanting on the layout for a while is a signal box, but I have been struggling to find a suitable Kit which would suit, I then came across this 4-Ground kit, It has since been Built, and weathered to be redundant, Its been made into a cut-away building, so that on the viewing side you can see inside the signal box, with the leavers being at the back of the box and being removed, A flat roof was produced as cutting the pitched roof to suit would have been a nightmare, and the windows are framed on each side of the acetate as each side is viewable.


 
Having been at Warley show today, I picked up a few small things to help detail the layout, and once home, I decided to make some work on my match truck for my station pilot, so with the addition of some lamps, chocks made from a piece of spur, tools and weathering, its ready to go. To justify the lack of wasp strips, the story would be it has only just been ‘bagged’ by the shunter crew recently, who have quickly slapped there name on it.





Just a few other photos taken while I had the camera out.





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Good stuff, Aaron.  :thumbs

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MaxSouthOz wrote: Good stuff, Aaron.  :thumbs
Thanks max, been nice getting back into it after the summer

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Hi Aaron

Seem to remember (in my yoof) every high street in London seemed to have an 'Odeon' cinema.

Don't know if any of these will give inspiration.

https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=old+odeon+cinema+pictures&biw=1269&bih=606&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjpv_yO-8rQAhWeOsAKHX6eAzoQ_AUIBigB

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Ed wrote: Hi Aaron

Seem to remember (in my yoof) every high street in London seemed to have an 'Odeon' cinema.

Don't know if any of these will give inspiration.

https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=old+odeon+cinema+pictures&biw=1269&bih=606&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjpv_yO-8rQAhWeOsAKHX6eAzoQ_AUIBigB

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Odeon is definitely the leader, Just trying to think of a solution for the name, I didn't like the one Supplied in the metcalfe kit, seemed to bland, I have tried to make a 3D sign that stands off from the cinema, but this was to large and overpower, I'll see if I can upload a photo of it, 

I might try printing a odeon logo off and mount it on some card, then cut it out to make 3D letters.

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Here is my first attempt of an Odeon sign, wasn’t happy with it as it was too large and overpowering, looking into mark II for now.


 
Also a quick snap of the inside of the signal box, Boring and run down, will probably add some junk to both floors.


 
And the pub I wasn’t happy with, during the evening snooker sessions, I have stripped it down, and started to work it back, so far happy with progress.


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The ‘Crown and Anchor’…


 
Is now the ‘New Inn’




 
All finished apart from some weathering, added a TV aerial and a pigeon.


 
For a while I have been placing the station in the general Kensington/Knightsbridge area, but more recently I have been trying to narrow this down, and have finial decided that the station would be situated approximately 100m north of Gloucester road tube station, with the station building being located in approximate the northern part of Campbell court. This has led to me filling in road names, and yes, the TV aerial is point the right direction, circa 140 degrees from North towards crystal palace.


 
So in light of having  location, I decided that the tube station would be an additional entrance for Gloucester road tube station, probably installed when the deep surface lines opened so passengers from Kingsmead wouldn’t have to walk in the open. Therefore I have renamed the tube station.


 
I have also started working on the second pub, looking at the pub names on Gloucester Road, they are mostly named after Gloucester or surrounding places to Gloucester, therefore the Cheltenham arms seemed fitting. The brewery I picked ‘Taylor Walker’, Which I though suited the colour scheme and is local to London.


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An update has been a long time coming, recent detailing has been the addition of some mail bags to the platform and BRUTEs. these I believe are from Model Scene and the pack contains a mix of Red and Hessian Sacks. After some research it was found that the red bags wouldn't have featured until the 1980's (in case any one else wonders regarding the red sacks), so these were put to one side and the hessian bags were weathered and placed in a pile or in some BRUTEs.


Next up was to add some detail to the abandoned signal box, a detailing kit was purchased and part of the lever frame was placed in situ, with rusted handles due to decay. added with the lever frame was the stove for which I added a bend in the chimney pipe, a storage box and an upturned chair. I also blanked off the ground floor.





Now a cruel close up.



Now there has been a bit of lucrative real estate on Kingsmead, with previously planning permission being for a row of terrace houses........



Which then made way for planning of a three storey house, bus depot and telephone exchange........

 

Well recently the planning permission has been granted to a proposal that couldn't be refused. I felt that there was no depth to this area with everything lined up with the base broad, so I broke the space down, I now plan to add an over bridge above the water crane and have placed what I hope to be a Hotel, Shop of sorts and a telephone exchange in the plot.



The hotel on the left and the shop on the right are modified metcalfe kits, and the telephone exchange in the centre is a modified Kingsway Kit.



Now for a photo of Gloucester road, London, Taken from outside Kingsmead Station, Spring 1970 (FYI Fictional).


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