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 Posted: Wed Apr 23rd, 2014 09:33 am
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Hi Mike, those tracks look pretty darn good to me. Infact the whole layout looks to coming along very nicely. I do like the work on the track though.
 



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Hi Mike,

If I read this right, you are painting the rails by brush/hand ?? If yes, that's a damn fine effort ! :thumbs The colour you have chosen for the rails looks pretty good as well. Question, are you just painting the visible side of the rails, or are you painting both sides ??

Keep up the great work.

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Hi Mike,

My layout will be very much a phased affair. One area at a time. I'm still light years away from any kind of ground cover or scenics yet.

One day......

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Thanks Barney, Gary.

The track was sprayed with a couple of coats of dark brown first then finished by hand with a brush. The sleepers with a 7mm wide one, and the sides of the rails with a smaller one. That way I could keep the colour variations working nicely. I only brush-painted the rails sides facing outwards Gary. The other side does have a coat of the spray on it. I took a test photo with my phone pointing outwards from the back scene and it looked OK should a future photograph catch that side of the rail.



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Looks good Mike. :thumbs  However, you might consider cleaning the paint from the rail top surface before it dries really hard.

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Thank you Terry. Thankfully, I removed all the track-top paint with a light brush from a Peco track rubber just after taking the photo.

Not tested it yet mind...



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BUILDING THE EMBANKMENT (242 days until Christmas)

I had a busy night last night constructing the embankment at the left side of the layout, and incorporating the girder bridge constructed earlier. I've used no technique that's not been described in depth elsewhere on this forum, but here are some pictures anyway...




The first thing was to glue triangles to the side of the trackbed, and down from the ground level to the river bed level. I glued the bridge to the underside of the trackbed and worked downwards from there:




I glued strips of standard A4 white paper to the triangles to give some support.




Near the baseboard edges I used an additional support of screwed up newspaper so that the next layer doesn't sag at the edges.

Then my favourite bit - the messy gloop.

I mixed white PVA glue with water in about 50/50 proportion, but there was no measuring involved. I added a generous squirt of Woodland Scenics' Dark Earth Undercoat too. This turned the mixture an alarming dark green colour when I was expecting brown, but it is OK as an undercoat:




Next I tore up kitchen roll into strips. These were dipped into the green mixture and stuck onto the framework. The kitchen roll keeps its strength when wet and is really absorbent, so it's ideal to smooth out with fingers or a brush. As I progressed I realised that it was easier and gave a smoother result if I applied the dry strips to the layout and then brushed on the gloop with a well-loaded brush.



After an hour or so the whole embankment on the left was finished. I used a screwed up roll of newspaper along the riverbed to give a defined edge to the riverbank, which is just visible in the picture above.

A final view from under the bridge:






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Hi Mike,

Looks really good. I like the cardboard triangular support fillet idea. I'll need to do some of the same myself eventually but I have bought a load of plaster bandage to use instead of the PVA and kitchen towel. I guess I'll just add some household emulsion to the water before dipping the later bandage in. Same thing really.

The only thing is, some of my embankment area's are really small so could be fiddely and a bit awkward. The plaster bandage sets quite quick as well. I think you can accelerate the setting time by raising the temperature of the water that you soak it in. Either way, I'm the same as you ......... Looking forward to getting messy.

The colour is irrelevant as long as it is natural ..... Green or brown I would say. The ground covering will blend in with either. Keep up the good work.

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Hi Toto,

I know what you mean. The back embankment is quite close to the backscene and quite fiddly. I ended up placing the fillets with tweezers. That's when I realised that it was easier to drop on the kitchen roll dry and then slop the gloop on with a brush. It ended up being quite easy. I don't know how successful it has been yet as 36 hours later it is still wet. I have a feeling I didn't put enough gloop on with the brush but we'll see. I don't know how any of that will translate for use with plaster bandage!



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Hi Mike,

The scenic fun has just begun ! Looking good already. I wouldn't worry too much about the colour as you can always throw a brown wash of acryllic over the top where you need it. Another option on the paper clothe is the 'Chicopee J Clothe', (commonly known as Chux Superwipes in Oz).

Looking foward to more !

Cheers, Gary.



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Looking fantastic Mike.When it's finished with all the ground cover and bushes etc it will look the mutt's nuts.:thumbs



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CUTTING CONSTRUCTION (241 days until Christmas)

Spurred on by how much I enjoyed getting all gloopy (the hill is still not fully dry, 48 hours later...) I spent the spare weekend hours getting on with the cutting through Pig Hill.

First off was to construct the bridge itself. A nice Scalescenes Arched Bridge without the wing walls. The camera is cruel. I've just noticed it's not stuck properly around the top of the arch. How come I didn't notice before!?




I have spent a long while looking at bridges and cuttings. Because I have so little space, I thought I would use a small retaining wall at the base of the cuttings to give me that little extra height. I found a couple of good prototype pictures from a dismantled line near Wakefield that fit perfectly.

So, I made a couple of 1.5m-high retaining walls and constructed the sides of the bridge in card and Scalescenes' paper. I then started building the profile of the cutting in card the same way as before:



Once the main structure was in place, I packed with newspaper around the edges and stuck a latticework of bog standard A4 printer paper on top:

 



This was then covered with The Gloop, but with more paint and PVA in the mix this time. I don't think that last time's is going to be hard enough, so I gave it an additional layer to be sure.

This time I added four layers of kitchen roll, alternating the direction of the grain between each layer.

Here are the results...

The two bridges in situ:




And a look into Pig Hill Yard from the girder bridge...





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Spurno wrote: Looking fantastic Mike.When it's finished with all the ground cover and bushes etc it will look the mutt's nuts.:thumbs

:mrgreen: Thanks! I have to admit to feeling no small amount of trepidation when it comes to the scenics. There are so may examples of near perfection on this forum, I am a bit scared! I will need some guidance when the time comes; that's for sure! :)



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Hi Mike,

If these bridges are anything to go by, you won't be needing any help. These bridges are superb , Very well integrated into the landscape as well.

I like the retaining walls as well. Very well thought out. Looking forward to seeing the rest of this uncover. Excellent work.

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Hi Mike,

This is coming along fine. The retaining walls look the business, well done there ! :thumbs I'm positive you will be fine when it comes to scenics. You just have to model what you see... Simple ! :roll:

Just out of curiousity, when you do the far side of the bridge (Pig Hill Yard) with the paper lattice and goop, I would try just using the goop without the paint to see if it dries quicker. I recall mixing black paint with plaster to form roads etc and it took almost a week to cure...

Cheers, Gary.

 



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LANDSCAPE FINISHED AND A FACIA ADDED (237 days until Christmas)

Part three of the landscaping was finished last night, using the same techniques as the other two parts. One of the 'musts' for the layout, as dictated by my 'helper', the boys' Big Sister, is that there needs to be pigs on Pig Hill. So I needed a patch of somewhat gentler sloping land. To this effect I built a higher retaining wall on the other side of the bridge to give me a small area of flatter land. The diesel shed will sit beside the wall and I thought it would look great to see the field (and its pigs) through the grimy shed windows.

Some of the card 'ribs' are showing a little on the hills I did last week, so this time I placed the ribs closer together and packed them all with newspaper just to give a little more solid a foundation.




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Just out of curiousity, when you do the far side of the bridge (Pig Hill Yard) with the paper lattice and goop, I would try just using the goop without the paint to see if it dries quicker. I recall mixing black paint with plaster to form roads etc and it took almost a week to cure...  


Good idea Gary, as it is taking that long for me. However, I still had some of the mixture left over, so just carried on with it regardless. The first bits done though are starting to set quite hard, which is a relief. I carried the gloop and kitchen paper covering around the occupation bridge's abutments (which, the camera tells me, are slightly out of alignment - grrr. They look fine to my eyes - perhaps I have wonky eyes) and over the bridge itself. This is to try to make it look completely embedded in the environment. I will eventually put a rutted tractor track over this, complete with puddles.




I also cut a facia to size. Having no woodwork ability and only one giant saw, this was a bit of a challenge. However, the 4mm ply can be cut with a big craft knife, so this worked out OK. As Marty suggested in a post earlier, the facia follows the landscape and really finishes it all off. It will look brilliant when painted.

The switches for the points will be added directly to the front facia. Since the layout will be stored upright in my office, I added a strip of 2cm square wood along the bottom. This will protrude further than the switches and thus protect them from getting knocked when being stored. The strip will then double as a 'shelf' to hold the cards I will be making for the Inglenook shunting puzzle element of the layout to make operating it fun for the boys.




Next is to finish the diesel shed and then crack on with either grassing the banks or ballasting the track. I'm erring towards the grass as that came first in nature, but not sure - what would you do?



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I've just had time to have a good read of this story.

It's looking great, Mike.  :thumbs



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It all looks very natural Mike.You have an excellent eye for detail.



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Brilliant Mike! :thumbs  I would deal with the ballast before the grass as ballasting can be a bit messier and it would be a shame to ruin the grass.

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I had been thinking about the " what comes first issue, the ballast or the grass " and it's quite an awkward one as any grass shown as coming through the ballast may not grab the real effect if the ballast goes down first.
There is a danger that the grass will look as though it is on top of the ballast. I suppose it will be down to a good technique and experience. Most of the efforts I've seen so far have looked spot on. Maybe some tips on technique from someone would be a good thing ?

Terry, Gary, Paul if you don't mind me singling you out. :mutley

When the job is done correctly it has a very convincing effect.

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