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Mmm looks nice



than the older version of the Kit.

see my efforts   http://yourmodelrailway.net/view_topic.php?id=7614&forum_id=101&page=1#p206073



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col.stephens wrote: Mike. I've just come across this thread - superb!  How big is the layout?  Very nice pictures of the track at Haworth.
Re sticking your trackplan to the facia with Pritt-Stick.  I don't think that it will be up to the job of holding it in place for long.  I would go for something more powerful.  Looking forward to seeing your layout develop.

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Thanks Terry - very kind. Thank you for the tip re the panel image - I will bear that in mind and use something more hefty.

The layout it 170x25cm, which is about 5'7" by 10".

I'm lucky to live so close to Hawarth, it makes it easy and quick to get somewhere to research.



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Sol wrote: Mmm looks nice



than the older version of the Kit.

see my efforts   http://yourmodelrailway.net/view_topic.php?id=7614&forum_id=101&page=1#p206073

It's changed a bit Ron, but yours looks a beauty. I didn't realise that the older kit had even more of those blasted combs to cut out. I am quite happy with the result, but question the effort. The tip embedded in your post re using the interior of washing powder boxes comes just a little too late!



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Hi Mike,

Two ways you can get around the in-filled sleepers...

1. the use of a runny plaster poured between the sleepers and then wiped clean before drfing solid.

2. Using Das Clay, pummeld into.between the sleepers.

As a matter of interest, for corrugated asbestos, similar to thescale used on the engine shed, I use corrugated card which I obtained from a craft/scrapbooking supplies, for only 0.75c a sheet. The corrugations are 6" and it does look ok. I have used it on my provendors shed.



and seen here on the roof of my shed...

http://yourmodelrailway.net/view_topic.php?id=11956&forum_id=14&page=2#p210167

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Thanks as usual, Gary! That shed roof looks great, there's such a wealth of knowledge on this forum - it's great.

Being away from home for a night, I spent some time drawing up what the overall look of Pig Hill Yard will be. The main constraint I have is that it needs to have a hill on it, and it needs to be populated with pigs. That's the rules as laid down by the boys' Big Sister.

So I am thinking this at the moment, will all buildings being from Scalescenes as I enjoy building them so much...




I thought about joining two sides of the Hill with an occupation bridge with farm track over it to give a good visual entrance to the yard proper. Not sure if I'm attempting too much though with the space available. The buildings are drawn to scale.

As ever, the comments are welcome, please don't hold back.

With luck, track laying will begin tomorrow or Thursday... :)



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I think that the occupation bridge will work well. Remember to cut the front fascia board to the shape of the hill and valley and it will look fab.
Lovely job on the river bridge too.
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Mike, Looking very good.  How did you produce your coloured trackplan in your last post, and how did you produce the full-size trackplan in your 8th post?

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Looking good, Mike - especially the bridge!  :thumbs

You can get that black look by using coal dust which you can get from the model shops.  I've supplemented that with grimy black weathering powder and flat black acrylic paint as well.



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Marty - thanks. If it comes out a quarter as good as your excellent work, I will consider myself very satisfied indeed. Your layout has been an inspiration to me.

Terry - thanks for the encouragement! The track plan was drawn in the AnyRail software (http://www.anyrail.com/). It has all the track geometry in it and makes laying out a track plan a breeze. You can use it to create exact radii smooth curves, and can print out at a scale of 1:1 which is going to help immensely when laying the track. As you can see, you can also add shapes to represent landscape and buildings. The buildings are represented by simple rectangles, but which are measured to the exact dimensions given on the Scalescenes website. I have spent so long "fiddling" with the software, I love it.

Max - thanks. I've picked up some Woodland Scenics 'fine cinders' to mix with the fine light grey ballast, and I intend to increase the proportion as we move into the yard from the head shunt. Re the flat black paint - do you apply washes with it watered down, or slap it on neat?



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BACKSCENE ADDED

We had a productive evening yesterday on Pig Hill Yard. Big Sister was on full sticking duty as we applied 11 A4 sheets of grey clouds to the back scene. The picture was downloaded from the internet, blurred a little and then arranged to the exact size and printed 1:1 from Visio.

I wanted something simple and not blue sky, so went for how the sky usually looks round here.



The joins look quite conspicuous on this picture but they're not too bad in the flesh. I'm going to spray varnish it and then trim the edges around the top.

We also transferred the track plan onto the cork ready for track laying. We did this by fixing the 1:1 trackplan to the top with sticky tape and then banging panel pins through the centreline. Remove the plan and then join the dots with a big pen.

Seems to have worked alright, and we're ready for track laying to commence!


 



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Hi Emmess,

Coming along a treat so far. The overall plan looks great with plenty to keep the eye roving. Looking forward to seeing more as it develops.

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FIRST TRACK LAYING



A quick progress report: Pig Hill now has track! It's more or less complete. Only one of the three Cobalt's is installed (2 still to arrive from Hattons) and the shed road is not in. This is waiting for the shed's inspection pit to be completed so that I can cut the baseboard to accommodate it.



I've used small screws to hold the track down, like Marty did - nice tip as it makes fine adjustment easy. I will remove them once the track is stuck down.



The bottom siding is alarmingly close to the edge at one point - a compromise in the plan. But I will include a small lip on the facia here to prevent accidents, I hope.










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Looks good Mike. :thumbs

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Looking good Mike. :thumbs Out of curiousity, what size are the points you are using on the Pig Hill Yard ?

Cheers, Gary.



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Looking good and coming on at a pace. I'm sure I have a piece of leftover ply just about that size. :mutley

And before anyone suggests it ......... No.

Keep up the good work.

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Gary, track is Peco code 75 and the points are the small radius electrofrog ones. Hoping that this was the right decision!

Toto - nonsense - go for it. You know you want to! :-)



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TRACK PAINTING

So the track is laid and tested. The three Cobalt's all work (that's another story - one needed resistors to stop it from clicking at the end of its throw, and one sounds like a tractor - I had to loosen its body screws a little to get it to throw) and all of the wiring is complete. Time to paint the track! Track glued down and screws removed.

There seems to be about as many approaches to weathering the track as there are modellers, so I'll document how I do it in case it comes in handy as a 'how not to do it'.

I masked off the backscene with newspaper and covered the point blades and hinges with masking tape. I have wired the electrofrog points properly so they don't rely on the blades for electrical continuity, but I wasn't confident that the paint wouldn't stick the moving parts together. I will patch in the shiny bits with a brush later. The long strip of masking tape covers the diesel shed's inspection pit.




The whole track was then given a couple of coats of Humbrol dark brown spray paint (one pointing towards the backscene and going left-to-right, and one pointing towards the headshunt and going top-to-bottom to ensure all the sleeper edges are covered). This is just an undercoat, but it already looks so much better. It's a lovely dark matt and makes such a difference... Here is the aftermath of the first coat:



And that's it for now. I will be weathering the sleepers and the rails later on.

In the meantime I mocked up the occupation bridge that will join both side of Pig Hill in Cornflake box from the dimensions on the Scalescenes website. I am not sure whether it's too large for the space available, and wanted to check what kind of gradient Pig Hill itself would have as it descends from bridge height down to the level of the river in the valley. I'm still not one hundred percent, but I think it's going to be fine. This shot shows how the entrance to the yard will look as it comes in under the bridge... 



And despite checking not once but twice, the paint managed to find a crack in the masking and has left a lovely brown mark down the cloudy backscene. It's in a location where I can hide it with a tree, so I'm not that bothered, but I am a bit annoyed. I am swaying towards a better backscene anyway, but I'd rather not have the expense at the moment.

That's it for now. I need my tea.



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I worked all evening on the track yesterday, and I thought that it was almost at a point that I'd consider it complete. In the cruel light of morning though, I can see my first major mistake - trying to paint under inadequate lighting. What all looked perfectly blended last night looks frightening this morning in daylight. Ho hum - some retouching needed. First though is a trip to a shop to buy some better light bulbs.

Anyway...

Working from some pictures I took of the rails at Haworth, I started to mix paints. In this case a selection of Tamyia acrylics:




I wanted the tracks at the yard entrance to be a browner colour than the dark tracks in the yard proper, and an almost black down the shed road. So I mixed in a couple of drops of darker colours little by little as I painted, essentially mixing the paint with the brush as I painted the sleepers.

With the sleepers done, I mixed a different concoction, a more rusty shade (no orange), and applied the paint to the rail sides, again making the shade darker in the areas I wanted. Here we are part-way through:




I then very lightly drybrushed some lighter shades over the sleepers just to bring out a little highlighting on the edges and the grain. Nothing over the top, and again varying the shades on each track. I carefully filled in the gaps left by the masking earlier, and was careful to keep switching the points from time to time to prevent sticking.

The main issue this morning is that I realise I have not painted the faces of the sleepers down to the baseboard. They looked fine last night but stick out badly this morning. I poured a little dry ballast into the gaps though to see how it looked, and thankfully it doesn't look too bad, so I think I will be fine.

What do you think?





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Hi Mike,

The sleeper and the rail colours look pretty convincing to me. You've done a great job. I wouldn't worry about the sides of the sleepers, as you say, the ballast takes care of that.

Great stuff.

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Thanks Toto. It took four hours. I would hate to think how long your layout would take! :-O



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