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This is the trackplan of my new layout which was started today. I will post often to show how it is progressing or otherwise. It is a fairly straight-forward layout and run by DC control (I have enough problems with computers let alone adding it to my railway as well). I have started track laying and have so far got the point out of the fiddle yard installed and a length of track to cover the length of the halt laid but not ballasted yet. The fiddle yard is a simple two line yard with a point to the left of the bridge. I am using side-mounted point motors as it is not possible to get underneath the baseboards but have worked out an ingenious method of having the motor remote from the point so as to hide them better (basically a wire in a tube). Sorry the drawing is a bit rough but I needed to get something on paper so that I had a guide to work from, although no doubt as things progress it will be very much a case of altering to suit the space etc. Most of the buildings wil have to scratch-built but the Bagged Clay Building and the Office may well be kit-bashed Ratio offerings. The layout will be based on the change-over period allowing the use of steam and diesel traction (late 50's to early 60's). The idea of including a Halt is to add a bit more interest and as the ficticious location is a bit remote provides passenger services for mundae things like getting to and from school, shopping, work etc. You will note that the passenger line comes to an abrupt stop at the baseboard end, so that the main Clay Dry will hide it but have the impression that it carries on to the next town or village. Attachment: scan0001.jpg (Downloaded 567 times) ____________________ I'm old, that's why I'm allowed to change my mind, when I can find it. My Website: http://www.dcminerals.co.uk |
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Thanks for posting the plan of your layout Mick. I for one is interested to see how it progresses.
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Look forward to seeing some pics.
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Track to the end of the Passenger section now laid and electrically tested. Back scenes being fitted tomorrow. Will post a pic then when I've got them mounted. Correction to that, all track now lifted and a reshuffle in progress. Have moved the fiddle yard back a bit so that I can avoid a baseboard join at the Halt. ____________________ I'm old, that's why I'm allowed to change my mind, when I can find it. My Website: http://www.dcminerals.co.uk |
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Track laying restarted after work break. Should have something to show soon.
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60019Bittern wrote: Track to the end of the Passenger section now laid and electrically tested....................................................................................... I had to smile at that - all in the space of a sentence ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() We used to have an axe wandering around the forum like the Grim Reaper's scythe ............ ![]() ____________________ 'Petermac |
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Its the way the cookie crumbles sometime. Things seem to go well then you look at it again and it ain't. Besides, I'm old and allowed to change my mind, if I can remember what it was I was changing. Will be starting again after a brief spell at work (the bane of the modelling class). Still, it is for a disabled friend of mine who recently had an accident and broke another bone in his spine. Catch you all later when I finally get everything started again. ____________________ I'm old, that's why I'm allowed to change my mind, when I can find it. My Website: http://www.dcminerals.co.uk |
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Hi Folks. Track is now being laid. I will put up a couple of pics on Thursday.
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Looking forward to it... and enjoy the journey... it's a lot of fun.
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Herewith the first pictures of Trevennan. I have had to loose the clay bit due to time constraints so it will be a small country terminus. This is the area leading into the fiddle yard. The scenery is made from foam board in hollow box sections, covered in 3mm foam board scored to form the contours and is built off layout in modules then cemented in place. It makes life easier. It also means that my point motors, which are surface mounted can be hidden under removable scenic sections to make replacement easier.![]() ![]() ____________________ I'm old, that's why I'm allowed to change my mind, when I can find it. My Website: http://www.dcminerals.co.uk |
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Mick, it's looking really good. Keep us posted as it progresses. Terry |
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January the first, paper and pencil. Four months later something really worth looking at. Really good progress Mike and you should be quite chuffed with yourself.
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Thanks Robert. It is beginning to get there. Another 6 months maybe before trains run. Just like Railtrack really.
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Thanks for the comment Terry. I'll keep you all up to date
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Coming along very nicely Mick. Those trees are they commercial or made by your self? They work well with the backscene.
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Hi Barney The trees are commercial, I think they come from Jarvis. Thanks for comment ____________________ I'm old, that's why I'm allowed to change my mind, when I can find it. My Website: http://www.dcminerals.co.uk |
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Sorry I haven't posted for a while. Been busy. Update to layout is that track and backscenes are now in place. Will send a pic sometime in the next couple of days.
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A bit more has been done on the scenery, as well as all the track being laid but not ballasted yet. One bit at a time!. The railcar is a Dapol model which has two motors in it and runs a dream. The power unit is built up from two power bogies from the Class 142 joined together. This doesn't protrude too much into the passnger compartment. The barn has to be painted yet and once the scenery on the near side has been constructed and the fiddle yard put in then that will be the first baseboard done.![]() ![]() Time permitting I will do a post on the motorisation of the Dapol railcar sometime in the near future. I have tried the method on another on that is still being built with just one motor but still two bogies and that seems to work fine as well. It ends to ride a tad high but doesn't seem too bad. ____________________ I'm old, that's why I'm allowed to change my mind, when I can find it. My Website: http://www.dcminerals.co.uk |
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Hi gang. Sorry, nothing much been happening for a few weeks. Been busy in my mates shop. Just acquired a three way point to save space at the tunnel end of the station so hoping to fit that in place over the next few weeks and do a bit more of the scenery. Will take a pic over the next few days to show what progress there has been. I am also working on an article about the motorising of the Dapol Railcar. Nice to see the recent press coverage of Mallard and the six remaing A4's. ____________________ I'm old, that's why I'm allowed to change my mind, when I can find it. My Website: http://www.dcminerals.co.uk |
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I was wondering about that railcar Mick. ![]() ![]() ____________________ 'Petermac |
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The Heljan version of the Park Royal railbus is due to be released later this year. Should be good judging by their previous railbuses. Terry |
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Two axles Pete. Basically it is two class 142 power bogies in it. You don't want the ones with traction tyres though, as you need the wheels for pickups. Will put a pic on as well to show both types of bogie i.e. one motor or two.![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Hope you see the method. You do need to cut a big chunk out of the floor of the model though. More details later. Works just as well either way. ____________________ I'm old, that's why I'm allowed to change my mind, when I can find it. My Website: http://www.dcminerals.co.uk |
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Hi Terry Why pay Heljan's price when you make your own with a bit of time. It's fun too. ____________________ I'm old, that's why I'm allowed to change my mind, when I can find it. My Website: http://www.dcminerals.co.uk |
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That's a very neat looking job Mick. ![]() You'll be giving us a step by step butchery course on it I presume ............. ![]() ![]() ____________________ 'Petermac |
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Will be doing in the near future, I promise. Thanks for comments as well. The two shown are the prototypes so aren't as neat as I would like them, but eh! it works.
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Started new post on the motorising details for the Dapol Railcar. Hope you all find it useful.
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Hi folks Long awaited update to Trevennan. Work is slowly going ahead. and am now in the postion that the bulk of the scenery on the first baseboard is finished apart from a little painting and fixing down of the barn. On the second baseboard a small amount of the track has been ballasted and the back hills commenced. I have also got rid of the point motors and gone to rod in tube. As I couldn't get to the motors if they had been used I thought that due to the total size of the layout I could do without. Added a pic to show latest deveopment![]() ____________________ I'm old, that's why I'm allowed to change my mind, when I can find it. My Website: http://www.dcminerals.co.uk |
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Looking good. How do you find the wire in tube method for point control? regards, Derek. |
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Hi Derek. It is very reliable. For Trevennan I use 2mm. brass tube for the sleeve and 0.8mm. brass wire for the rods. I tend to cut away the cork on the baseboard to make a groove for the wires to fit into. So far its been fine. I wouldn't recommend this method if it is a long way to the point as otherwise the wire has more chance of binding. What I do is to cut the wire short of its full length and put a right angle bend at one end to fit into the operating bar of the point then slide the wire into the tube, again the tube is cut short of its needed length. On my baseboard I have a lip so I drill a hole in the lip to coincide with the point then slip a length of tube through the hole then feed the wire into the end of this tube so there is about half an inch between the two tubes then solder the wire into the outer tube. This makes a stronger operating lever. I then cut a piece of 3/4 inch square timber about an inch long then drill a 2mm hole in it along its length. Slide the wood over the operating tube after it has been cut to size and thats it. Once everything is tested I tend to glue the inner tube to the baseboard with a few drops of loctite to hold it in place. Keep the glue away from the wire though otherwise it won't slide easily. It's much easier to do than it is to describe. If you need to change direction so that the operating arms are square on to the baseboard then you will have to make up a bellcrank. That can be fun. I'll put a cuple of pics up later to show what I mean. ____________________ I'm old, that's why I'm allowed to change my mind, when I can find it. My Website: http://www.dcminerals.co.uk |
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Just had a read through your thread and like the way you build the boards up in modules, I flit all over the place and probably need to focus more then I might make faster progress. Looking forward to seeing your point operation as I prefer the manual operation too, mainly on a cost basis. Keep up the good work and don't worry about time taken you're still quicker than some of us, me especially jim ____________________ My layout thread http://yourmodelrailway.net/view_topic.php?id=10930&forum_id=21 Buildings for Hemyock http://yourmodelrailway.net/view_topic.php?id=10931&forum_id=14 |
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Thanks Jim. Just checking out some pics I took today so will put them up tomorrow if they are all right. Glad to see you like whats been done so far. This is version number 3. If you look carefull at the new pics when they go up you will see that I have changed the first point to a three-way one. Saves room and makes things easier. The original idea of a china clay works and station has changed to a end terminus on a preserved railway. Allows me freedom to run what I like when I like, even modern stuff.
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Just checked out the pics and am putting them up now![]() ![]() ![]() This next pic is showing what has been done new to the layout. Still a long way to go though. Still the winter nights are coming in so it will give me something to do as the tellie these days is rubbish (unless there is a railway programme on of course). ![]() ____________________ I'm old, that's why I'm allowed to change my mind, when I can find it. My Website: http://www.dcminerals.co.uk |
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Latest update on Trevennan. The scenery progresses.![]() ____________________ I'm old, that's why I'm allowed to change my mind, when I can find it. My Website: http://www.dcminerals.co.uk |
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Thanks for the photo,s and explanation on your point control method. Great stuff. That railway you are building is really looking the business. Regards, Derek. |
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G'day Mick, A very simple solution to point operation. I used the same method on Jacks Corner (Continuous Loop) , but used 1/2" length tube (guides) every 6" in the groove/slot. I then just covered the slot and wire with strips of paper held down with PVA. This method can even be used on slight curves as well, but allowing more guides closer together. Cheers, Gary. ____________________ ...as a young lad, it was big trains for little boys, now it is little trains for big boys...! http://yourmodelrailway.net/view_topic.php?id=12116&forum_id=21 |
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Just finished doing some ballasting on Trevennan, also added in a siding for an Engine Shed. All the track is now laid and electrically and mechanically tested. Surprise! Surprise! it all worked. By the way the signal box is just put in position. It will be squared up when it finally gets put in place.![]() Progress so far. Still a long way to go. ____________________ I'm old, that's why I'm allowed to change my mind, when I can find it. My Website: http://www.dcminerals.co.uk |
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Coming along very nicely Mick. Keep up the good work. ____________________ Always try to look on the bright side of life! Barney |
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That little Dapol engine shed is quite a good model. I made up some internal walls that matched the inside profile and covered with Scalescenes white painted brick paper. I also scribed some thin balsa to make a false floor, which was treated with a few washes of grimey black. Came up a treat. Your layout is coming along quite nicely ! Cheers, Gary. ____________________ ...as a young lad, it was big trains for little boys, now it is little trains for big boys...! http://yourmodelrailway.net/view_topic.php?id=12116&forum_id=21 |
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Hi folks. Time for another update. For the sharp eyed you will notice that I have altered the area near the barn. Have done some other bits as well so will put pics of that up next update.![]() The other updates include ballasting the track by the 3 way point and adding an extra siding off the bay platform, which will be the goods area. By the way, if anyone is interested the sand coloured road surfaces are made from crusher dust from the local granite quarry. Unfortunately it's just closed but I managed to get a big ice cream tub full when I visited it some time ago on a mineral collecting trip. ____________________ I'm old, that's why I'm allowed to change my mind, when I can find it. My Website: http://www.dcminerals.co.uk |
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Update on progress: The three way point has gone and the track through the station area has been modifed. The wire in the tube has also been replaced with point motors (I kept walking into the operating levers and bending them. The area around the layout is a bit tight for my expanding waistline). All track laid so far has been electrically and mechanically tested and some more basic scenery has been done. I'll take a few pictures tomorrow when it's daylight again and pop them up.
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Looking forward to developments Mick. The scenery looks great. regards, Derek. |
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Thanks Derek. These things take for ever to do, still it stops one getting bored and keeps the little grey cells ticking over.
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Hi Bittern, The scenics are great.the trees seem to have a natural transition with the printed background which is difficult to achieve and gives that extra depth to the whole scene. I also like your discipline in bringing the scenery etc up behind you as you go. It would be so easy to try to jump ahead. Good stuff and looking forward to your next post. Cheers for now Toto. |
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Thanks Toto. It is a long job though made even harder by constant changes of mind. Never mind, press onwards and upwards, or something like that. One day I will get round to painting the barn thats been waiting since last january.
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Changes, I know all about changes. Just try not to let them dishearten you. I had a spell of that myself and dare say there will be more to come. Take heart from the results that you have accomplished so far as they look great. Cheers Toto |
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Herewith a couple of pics as promised. Sorry they are not too good. Lighting in the bedroom is hopeless.![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() That's all for now folks. Will try and get some more done next week. By the way the Engine Shed is a much modified Dapol. ____________________ I'm old, that's why I'm allowed to change my mind, when I can find it. My Website: http://www.dcminerals.co.uk |
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![]() You are way ahead of me in the railway build stakes. Bedroom lighting? Energy saving bulb ![]() Have a good weekend, Derek. |
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Thanks Derek. Yes the dreaded energy saving bulbs. They are useless to work under. You spend more on the spotlights to do any modelling at the workbench. Mind dull miserable cloudy weather doesn't help either. Hope to get more done over the weekend and get the rest of the track laid and tested. Then the ballasting can begin.
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Herewith the latest updates to Trevennan. I hope you like them. The camera can be brutal so any 'errors' will be corrected later.![]() ![]() ____________________ I'm old, that's why I'm allowed to change my mind, when I can find it. My Website: http://www.dcminerals.co.uk |
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Hi Bittern, Really coming along a treat. The trees to the side of your houses are spot on. Are these off the shelf items or did you make them yourself? The signal box also looks very much at home. Excellent results Toto |
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Hi Toto, Thanks for the comments. The trees are ready made, I think the are either K&M or Jarvis. I get them from my local branch of Antics and are about £2 - £3 each. The signal box isn't glued in yet, I still have some stuff to do where it is going and I have to make the lamp cabin etc. as well. ____________________ I'm old, that's why I'm allowed to change my mind, when I can find it. My Website: http://www.dcminerals.co.uk |
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60019Bittern wrote: Herewith the latest updates to Trevennan. I hope you like them. The camera can be brutal so any 'errors' will be corrected later. Hi Mick,out of interest what computer and browser are you using?. ____________________ Regards Alan Born beside the mighty GWR. |
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Hi Allan, Advent Firefly with Windows 7 and IE11. It all worked ok when I was on XP
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Hi Bittern, I'll have a look on the web for these trees. I saw custom made tree's at the SEC Glasgow yesterday and thought about picking a couple up.........until I saw the price.........£25 - £30 each ![]() I will only need a couple as my layout is really to industrial. A couple well placed would add to it though just to break the hardness of the overall scene. Cheers for now. Toto |
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Hi again Toto. If you need any let me know and I get hold of some for you. Give me some idea of size as they do vary. By the way, I have a site on Viewbug with a railway album. Have a look sometime http://www.viewbug.com/member/60019Bittern#/60019Bittern/album/54508 ____________________ I'm old, that's why I'm allowed to change my mind, when I can find it. My Website: http://www.dcminerals.co.uk |
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60019Bittern wrote: Hi Allan, Advent Firefly with Windows 7 and IE11. It all worked ok when I was on XP Do you see the "insert existing photo from gallery" above the text box?.Another thing worth trying is to use Firefox,this seems to give little or no trouble with inserting photos.Myself i insert photos straight from Photobucket which is very easy as i am not the most computer savvy person around. ____________________ Regards Alan Born beside the mighty GWR. |
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Hi Allan, Thanks for the suggestion as that command about inserting pics from gallery doesn't come up. It used to when I was on XP but not anymore. I'll have to try another browser sometime
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Let me know how you get on,i've never had a problem with Firefox. ____________________ Regards Alan Born beside the mighty GWR. |
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Changed to Firefox Allan. Problem solved. Thanks. Have edited previous post so pics are where they should be. ____________________ I'm old, that's why I'm allowed to change my mind, when I can find it. My Website: http://www.dcminerals.co.uk |
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Glad you got it sorted.![]() ____________________ Regards Alan Born beside the mighty GWR. |
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Mick. I do like them. Very good. ![]() Firefox is the go. Glad you got it working. Have you got an aperture Priority setting on your camera? That could help. Cheers ____________________ Max Port Elderley |
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Don't know Max. It's only a cheap Samsung pocket type. I'll use the Nikon on the next shoot and hope there is a bit more daylight coming into the bedroom. Thanks for the comments anyway. ____________________ I'm old, that's why I'm allowed to change my mind, when I can find it. My Website: http://www.dcminerals.co.uk |
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Hi Bittern, I'm not sure what control you get with your Samsung but look through the menu and see if it will let you adjust your ISO setting. If it does, trying hiking it up to the next highest setting and try again. This will let you shoot in darker conditions and give you brighter photo's. Now, some within the photography fraternity will throw their hands back in aghast, claiming that this increase in ISO will introduce more " noise " into your pictures therefore resulting in a grainier photo. This is true but only really at very high settings. You would get away with a reasonable increase without any noticeable ill effect on your images. If you have the ability to access and try it, then do. I stand up to be shot down. ![]() Cheers Toto |
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G'day Mick, Been a while since I last commented about the layout. It definately has had some changes along the way ! I will say it is coming along very nicely and I like what you have done with the two Dapol engine sheds asn the water tower, very ingeneous. Took at look at your 'viewbug' album and there are some wonderful photos in your collection. Looking foward to further updates on the layout. Cheers, Gary. ____________________ ...as a young lad, it was big trains for little boys, now it is little trains for big boys...! http://yourmodelrailway.net/view_topic.php?id=12116&forum_id=21 |
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Thanks Gary. Unfortunately the engine shed won't be used this time, but it will go in the box for the future. I've decided to do away with engine servicing at Trevennan. The locos being rostered from the main shed off scene. Goods facilities have also felt Beeching's Axe except for a daily parcels train which will use the bay platform. The time scale has moved forward a bit too, to the transition period, so I can run both steam and diesel. Passenger traffic will be by green dmu's and parcels by steam so I have to keep the run round capability. There might be a geographical move as well, away from Cornwall and set it in the Western Region somewhere where the Midland also has a presence. We shall see. (I'm old, I'm allowed to change my mind).
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Hi Bittern Scenery looks excellent ![]() As for moving era and location that's the beauty of this hobby, nothing is really set in stone. Ed (PS I've got a nagging thought in the back of my mind regarding catenary and pantographs.) ____________________ Engineers just love to change things |
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Herewith a couple more updates to Trevennan. ![]() Washday at Trevennan. ![]() The waste ground near the front cottages. The Lengthman's huts are in danger of being overgrown. ![]() Another view of the back cottages. Little Johnny is patiently awaiting the next train. Next step is to ballast the track as far the points leading to the bay platform and adding another cottage pair against the backscene. I have to build that first though. Might add a couple of lads up to no good on the waste ground near the front cottages as well. ____________________ I'm old, that's why I'm allowed to change my mind, when I can find it. My Website: http://www.dcminerals.co.uk |
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Or Welsh and the GWR and Midland (LMS) were in Wales.
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60019Bittern wrote: "The time scale has moved forward a bit too, to the transition period, so I can run both steam and diesel. Passenger traffic will be by green dmu's and parcels by steam so I have to keep the run round capability. There might be a geographical move as well, away from Cornwall and set it in the Western Region somewhere where the Midland also has a presence". So, I guess you have an Ivatt 2MT Tank for the layout...? Cheers, Gary. ____________________ ...as a young lad, it was big trains for little boys, now it is little trains for big boys...! http://yourmodelrailway.net/view_topic.php?id=12116&forum_id=21 |
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Herewith latest update. The backs of both cottages near the back scene have added detail. Little Johnnie was told to get off the wall by his Mum. His mates have now called for him to go to school. The shed next door to Johnnies has to be finished and painted and things like dustbins etc. to be added when in stock and some guttering as well as other tidying up. And I still need to paint the barn near the bridge.![]() ____________________ I'm old, that's why I'm allowed to change my mind, when I can find it. My Website: http://www.dcminerals.co.uk |
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Looking good, I really like the look of it, and that back scene is well chosen
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Thanks Aaron. These things take time but hope to get more done in the near future.
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No Gary, but I have a Bachmann 3MT tank amongst many others, most of which have never been out of their boxes yet. Amongst them is the Bachmann 3F & Jinty, City of Bath, The Dukedog, 45xx & 55xx 2-6-2T's, 56xx tank, GWR Mogul, & a LY 2-4-2T.
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Ballasted up to the bay points today, just waiting for everything to dry. It takes for ever so will get on with the next house to go against the back scene over the next couple of days.
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Gary, add to the list the Hornby 2-8-0T as well. Herewith pic of layout so far showing full length of section so far worked on. Sorry it's a bit dark. ![]() ____________________ I'm old, that's why I'm allowed to change my mind, when I can find it. My Website: http://www.dcminerals.co.uk |
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Neat tidy work Mick. Look forward to more.![]() ____________________ reg |
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Thanks Reg, it's getting there but I can't promise that the line will be open by Easter.
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Went into the local Antics this morning to get bins and bikes but left with bikes and four locos. They were second hand (the locos that is) and had been stuck in the storeroom for donkeys years. There were two Mainline Class 56's, on in large numbers blue livery the other in Transrail, a Hornby Class 91 and an old Hornby 08 shunter. They were sold as seen and I paid him £32.50 for them. On getting home all the locos work brilliantly but need a service and are in almost new condition cosmetic wise, however one of the 56's has lost three of its plug in buffers. Anybody got any knocking around anywhere please??. Let me know and I will be willing to refund/pay for them. Thanks
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All four locos for £32.50, that's a bargain with only a couple of cosmetic desrepencies ! Good buy. Cheers, Gary. ____________________ ...as a young lad, it was big trains for little boys, now it is little trains for big boys...! http://yourmodelrailway.net/view_topic.php?id=12116&forum_id=21 |
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Yes, I was quite chuffed too. As it happened I had a spare DVT for the 91 hanging around so that will be winging its way on to Ebay very shortly.
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Ref buffers in earlier post. Managed to get a set of four on Ebay from Peters Spares. Thanks anyway.
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Managed to get a bit more done today. The signal box is now fixed in place and have done a bit more detailing around the houses.![]() At Johnny's house his bike has been parked against the wall and in next door the two boys bikes have been left in the yard and Mum has done some washing. Dad has still got to paint the shed. ![]() The signal box firmly planted and the scrub behind it in place. ![]() The kids from the front terrace are leaving for school and Mr. Jones has come home from Night Shift in his blue Morris. ![]() How its all slowly coming together. More next week. ____________________ I'm old, that's why I'm allowed to change my mind, when I can find it. My Website: http://www.dcminerals.co.uk |
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Hi Bittern, It's coming along really well. Great detailing. Particularly the greenery, it's looks very real indeed. By the way, I'm not sure if Mrs Jones has been " entertaining " I could have sworn I saw someone jumping over the back wall just as Mr Jones's car pulled up. The layout has only begun and it's been rocked with scandal already. ![]() Look forward to the next installments. Cheers Toto |
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Hi Toto, not much fear of Mrs Jones misbehaving, she's strictly chapel and makes Nora Batty look attractive. But whose bike is that next door at Marina's??
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Latest updates. I will put some pots on the chimney later so I don't knock them off again reaching over them.![]() ____________________ I'm old, that's why I'm allowed to change my mind, when I can find it. My Website: http://www.dcminerals.co.uk |
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Jeeeez Bittern, I just had a zoom in on Marina, she's a healthy Gal ![]() I hope there is a police station in the mix somewhere. ![]() Cheers Toto |
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It's the bobby's bike.
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![]() ![]() ![]() Walked into that one. First class. I hope it wasn't too much of an arresting experience for him. Now that's enough of that..............back to some sensible stuff. What's the next episode going to hold ? Look forward to it. Toto |
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Hi Toto. Hope to extend the back scenery to the end of the next baseboard joint this week and add some more terraced houses, facing forwards this time, with a bus turn-round area etc. or a school and hopefully finish off laying the track. ____________________ I'm old, that's why I'm allowed to change my mind, when I can find it. My Website: http://www.dcminerals.co.uk |
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Built up the background level and made the retaining wall and base shaping. The old Metcalfe station building looks just right for a small school. It is spaced a bit from the existing cottages as another pair have to go in between them. This part, all being well should be done by Thursday. Will keep you all posted.![]() ____________________ I'm old, that's why I'm allowed to change my mind, when I can find it. My Website: http://www.dcminerals.co.uk |
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Hi Bittern, That station building works a treat for your school. What plans are in place for the playground. That could be quite interesting I think. Looking forward to Thursday already. Cheers Toto |
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Haven't even thought of that yet. Strict segregation though.
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Yes I'd agree. They grow up so fast these days........ Let's take no chances. ![]() Keep that for Marina's. Cheers Toto |
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Hi Mick, Having a few blue diesels running around the layoiut would put the school in the period where the grass would have been removed and bitumen (tarmacadem) put down instead. A few sheets of printed tarmac would do the trick for the playground! ![]() Cheers, Gary. ____________________ ...as a young lad, it was big trains for little boys, now it is little trains for big boys...! http://yourmodelrailway.net/view_topic.php?id=12116&forum_id=21 |
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Will take that on board Gary. If I remember back to my misspent youth (1947 - 1958 schooldays) we had tarmac playgrounds and grass playing fields, which in the case of my secondary school were almost four miles from the school itself and shared with the local girls grammar. Made for interesting sports afternoons. Mind the secondary itself had plenty of grassed areas. The main school got knocked out during the blitz so in 1947 it was moved into a disused army camp beside the old Exeter Bypass as a temporary measure and was still in use in 1976. Its a Little Chef and a Premier Inn now. The times they are a changing.
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My school playground was similar. Mostly tar macadam, not the smooth stuff mind, the rough Stoney kind. No good for marbles and if you fell, it could reek havoc with your conkers. ![]() Don't forget the bike shed........never a bike in sight but a very important building indeed. I'll leave the rest to your imagination but marina would testify to it I'm sure. Cheers Toto |
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And those from Smokers Corner. Got the strap a few times for that.
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Progress over the past couple of days. Additional cottages added plus the beginnings of the school.![]() Still some more detail to be done on fresh cottage and school and also the ground cover below the wall. Sorry the pic is dark. Energy saving light bulbs. ____________________ I'm old, that's why I'm allowed to change my mind, when I can find it. My Website: http://www.dcminerals.co.uk |
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Hi Bittern, You're not hanging about. The latest additions blend in perfectly with whats went before. Really looking excellent. I don't suppose it will be long before the Janny makes an appearance. ![]() Keep it coming please Cheers Toto |
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Thanks Toto. Will be doing some more later today so who knows who may make an appearance. Perhaps Marina with her off-spring.
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Hi Bittern, Marina..... Already, well I suppose it is a scale nine months. Cheers Toto |
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A bit more detail added. A brighter picture too.![]() The school hasn't been fixed in place yet nor has the greenhouse in the garden next door to the school as it hasn't been built yet. Dodgy place for a greenhouse I know but the trees should stop any errant footballs. Mr. Wilson's spuds seem to be growing well in the next garden up and he has had his new shed delivered and built at the bottom of his garden. Mrs Wilson is still nagging him for her clothes line to be re-instated so perhaps that is his next job. ____________________ I'm old, that's why I'm allowed to change my mind, when I can find it. My Website: http://www.dcminerals.co.uk |
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Herewith latest progress![]() ____________________ I'm old, that's why I'm allowed to change my mind, when I can find it. My Website: http://www.dcminerals.co.uk |
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Hi Mick, The layout is coming on in leaps and bounds now. It looks absolutely fantastic now you have some decent lighting, and everything can be seen clearly ! ![]() Cheers, Gary. ps. I'd hate to see how big the person is who owns the undergarments on the clothes line... ![]() ____________________ ...as a young lad, it was big trains for little boys, now it is little trains for big boys...! http://yourmodelrailway.net/view_topic.php?id=12116&forum_id=21 |
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They're Grandad's Gary. He's lived life well on Cornish Pasties, Hevva Cakes and Beer. At his last check up he weighed in at 24 stone. As to the lighting Gary, its natural daylight with a little flash. We had one of those rare days this year when the sun came out. The area shown represents some 70 inches of the layout, only another 48 inches to go.
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60019Bittern wrote: As to the lighting Gary, its natural daylight with a little flash. We had one of those rare days this year when the sun came out. What ever happened to the slogan 'Southern For Sunshine...' ? I was under the impression that the sun shone like nothing else in the south ! ![]() Cheers, Gary. ____________________ ...as a young lad, it was big trains for little boys, now it is little trains for big boys...! http://yourmodelrailway.net/view_topic.php?id=12116&forum_id=21 |
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Climate Change. The pollution from the motor car and lorries carrying things that could easily go onto rail if the powers that be hadn't scrapped all the infrastructure. Mind you this week may be a good one. Today its about 14 degrees C which for this time of year in Britain is not too bad.
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Hi Mick, Congratulations on the home page header pic. As Toto said above in post 106, 'Well done, real quality'. ![]() Cheers, Gary. ____________________ ...as a young lad, it was big trains for little boys, now it is little trains for big boys...! http://yourmodelrailway.net/view_topic.php?id=12116&forum_id=21 |
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Thanks Gary. I'm glad Alan thinks it's worthy of the honour. I'll be doing some more on it in the next few days so will post some fresher pictures.
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Fabulous textures on that cutting, and the buildings look super too - very nice, and just the sort of thing to which I aspire! ![]() Mike. ____________________ Mike Pig Hill Yard - a small Inglenook shunting layout for my boys, in 00. |
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Thanks Eemmss. I takes time and patience but of that I have plenty. Glad you like it.
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60019Bittern wrote: Thanks Gary. I'm glad Alan thinks it's worthy of the honour. I'll be doing some more on it in the next few days so will post some fresher pictures. My pleasure Mick,got to keep the Devon boys happy. ____________________ Regards Alan Born beside the mighty GWR. |
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Thanks anyway Alan. It's an honour.
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Hi Bittern, Congratulations on picture of the week. A very worthy choice indeed. Keep up the excellent work. Full of great ideas. Cheers for now Toto |
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Thanks for the comments Allan. Coming from you that has indeed made my day. Thanks to all those who have also made comments. A sad note however is that the school is going as it seems unlikely that they would have put one so close to the station and also I have to loose some depth at the back of the layout to accommodate the goods facility. That is one of the joys of making it up as you go along. More to do this week, another pair of cottages to be built then the Great Wall of Trevennan can go in. Keep you all posted.
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Herewith latest update. Am having a rest on this one for a while and get started on the plank. I need to think about how I'm going to do the station end of this. Bear with me. ![]() ____________________ I'm old, that's why I'm allowed to change my mind, when I can find it. My Website: http://www.dcminerals.co.uk |
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Well, after a long break I have decided to restart work on Trevennan again. This afternoon I started on the platform. There is a small change in that I decided to move the station building to the front of the layout and will be altering the sidings to provide a goods dock. I'll update with some pics over the next few days as things progress. After all, what else can be done in this gory horrible weather we are having. ____________________ I'm old, that's why I'm allowed to change my mind, when I can find it. My Website: http://www.dcminerals.co.uk |
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Hi Bittern, Nice one, it has been a while. I'll look forward to you taking off again. Good stuff Cheers Toto |
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Well, here we go again. Did a bit this afternoon and herewith progress. The first section of platform and the car park have been added, along with the Branch Platform building. ![]() Modifications to the lone terraced house area. The point shown furthest from the signal box will be coming out and be replaced with a short length of straight track. ![]() An additional pair of houses against the back scene once they are built. ![]() Looking along the layout. Excuse the clutter. I'm not the tidiest of workers. ![]() What is planned. 1) Removal of point then adding a long platfrom to the rear for main line trains (3 car DMU or similar). 2) Completion of the platform already started to form a branch line platform but also being able to accomodate a 3 car unit. 3) Build the station building and place in position at the front of the layout. 4) Continue the back scene houses to the end of the baseboards. There will be no run-round crossover as the station has been rationalised and will be run by early DMUs, Class 150's and 153's. with an occaisional 142. Once Bachmann's 54xx Pannier appears on the market I can run steam by using three Auto coaches with a 14xx and the 54xx sandwiched between two Auto coaches. Also the name of the station is being changed to Hingstone. Makes it a little less region specific and then I can run Midland stock as well when I feel like it. I might decide to keep the point in. Still thinking hard on that one. It would give an additional Platform face to cover for Holiday maker traffic or football match trains. ____________________ I'm old, that's why I'm allowed to change my mind, when I can find it. My Website: http://www.dcminerals.co.uk |
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Hi Bittern, It's good to see these pictures coming through again. You have done such a great job so far. Especially the vegetation, really superb. Cheers Toto |
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Thanks Toto. I have decided to keep the point in after all. Tomorrow's bit will be the end of the rear platform. It's shaped so I'm hoping I can get it right. I'll also be putting in the fence to finish closing in the car park.
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I'm sure you'll pull off the platform. Take your time. It's very convincing so far. Quality stuff![]() Cheers Toto |
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Herewith today's changes: Alterations to the lone cottage. The road has gone and been replaced by a lawn. The printed paving has all been replaced by Metcalfe individual flags. The lamps have to be put back yet. ![]() Alterations to the car park area. This has some further changes to be done to it. The platform fence is being replaced with a stone wall and the building is being moved to a new location further down the platform once that is built. This also means that the car park will be moved so in its place is going to be the local Scout's Hut. ![]() Thats all for now. More tomorrow or sometime over the weekend. ____________________ I'm old, that's why I'm allowed to change my mind, when I can find it. My Website: http://www.dcminerals.co.uk |
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Beautiful work, Mick. ![]() ____________________ Max Port Elderley |
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I'll second that. Always seems to look so neat and tidy. You are obviously a tidy worker. I also like the way you just bring the whole layout up behind you sweeping along the board dealing with everything that is in your path. A bit like a cyclone in reverse. Instead or reeking havoc and destruction, you leave behind a delightful scene. Spot on. Toto |
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Nice work ! ![]() I do like the consistency with the scenics, well done. Carry on old chap ! ![]() Cheers, Gary. ____________________ ...as a young lad, it was big trains for little boys, now it is little trains for big boys...! http://yourmodelrailway.net/view_topic.php?id=12116&forum_id=21 |
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Made a start on the Scout Hut which will be placed near the lone cottage and backing up to the platform wall. Front Wall furthest from the lone cottage. It is made from plasticard and covered in Wills Brick texture. The window frames were from a large lot I got on Ebay ages ago. Don't know who the maker was. ![]() More to come later. ____________________ I'm old, that's why I'm allowed to change my mind, when I can find it. My Website: http://www.dcminerals.co.uk |
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It's coming together nicely. The windows are good. Looking good Cheers Toto |
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Further developments on the Scout Hut.![]() ![]() Still a long way to go. The large windows were from a couple of left over Airfix Engine Shed kits and suit the purpose very well. This is my first major construction using Plasticard so excuse any slight errors. I will get used to it, eventually. ____________________ I'm old, that's why I'm allowed to change my mind, when I can find it. My Website: http://www.dcminerals.co.uk |
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Hi, when you changed to using point motors, did you bury them under the scenery or can you get at them if there's a problem? Cheers Ron ____________________ Proper Preparation makes for Perfect Performance!! http://yourmodelrailway.net/view_topic.php?id=13331&forum_id=21 |
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" excuse any slight errors " ehhhh....... Like where. It looks great to me. These windows are just the job. Keep it coming.![]() Toto |
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Come on Toto it stands out a mile ! That middle window is at least 0.0000000000008 th of a millimetre higher than the other two ! ( if my scratch building comes anywhere close to the quality of Bittern's I'll be over the moon ). Come on now pull your socks up ![]() |
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Hi Ron. The point motors are under the line side shed, under the lone cottage and the remainder will be under the platforms when they are built. Most are accessible if things go wrong and if not then the big finger in the sky will suffice. Hi Matt. In fact you are right. The centre window is slightly lower than the others but I can live with it. ____________________ I'm old, that's why I'm allowed to change my mind, when I can find it. My Website: http://www.dcminerals.co.uk |
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Slight errors? if I produced something like that I'd be chuffed to NAAFI breaks as we used to say.
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The only problem with all those windows is that I will have to put some sort of interior in the main hall anyway. More work.
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Done some more on the Scout Hut. Almost there.![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Till next time. ____________________ I'm old, that's why I'm allowed to change my mind, when I can find it. My Website: http://www.dcminerals.co.uk |
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I like it, Mick. All nice and square. ![]() What's that stuff like to paint? ____________________ Max Port Elderley |
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Not sure yet Max. I will be priming it first. Will let you know.
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Hi bittern, It's looking really smart. A tidy build. Looking forward to the paint finish. ![]() Cheers Toto |
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Nice work Mick. If it's a scout hall then, from my experience as an Aussie Scout Leader, there will be nothing but a wooden or carpeted floor inside... got to have room for the little terrors to run around and parade in. Put a picture of the Queen on the interior end wall and a flag above and you're done. ![]() cheers Marty ____________________ Marty N Gauge, GWR West Wales Newcastle Emlyn Layout. Newcastle Emlyn Station is "Under construction" |
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Trevennan has just got a new locomotive. I have just taken delivery of a nice new Bachmann 64xx Pannier Tank. It is a little beauty. I haven't had time to run it yet but if it goes as well as it looks than I will be more than happy. Will put a better review up later.
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Hattons by any chance ? I notice they had them in stock. They never had photo's of them so mind an post a couple. I'm waiting to see if they are doing them in BR black with late crest. Cheers Toto |
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No Toto, from Antics. £72.50. I got 6407 in GWR green. I think they are bringing out a BR version but I think it is in BR lined Green. Just checked on Bachmann's site. They are doing 6417 in unlined early crest BR black but is currently out of stock. ____________________ I'm old, that's why I'm allowed to change my mind, when I can find it. My Website: http://www.dcminerals.co.uk |
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Hi Bittern, Thanks for that. I'll just need to wait and see what the others look like. I'll look forward to seeing yours on the layout when you get the chance. Cheers Toto |
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As to the 64xx Class Toto. They were designed purely for Autotrain working so I doubt if any of them ever saw service north of the border. They were small engines on 4' 7 and a half inch wheels. They were not that powerful, about 4 coaches were about their limit, mainly as this was about the limit of the GWR mechanical Autotrain control system. If you want a Western style pannier then the 57xx/87xx classes are probably better choices as a lot of these were sold out of service to private owners, especially the NCB and LT
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