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 Posted: Tue Dec 4th, 2012 07:45 pm
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I'm running Win 7 Ultimate.  In this case it's on a laptop I use with one of my Lokprogrammers.   (The other one uses XP).

Anyhow there were a pile of upgrades waiting for me when I turned it on yesterday, so I clicked Yes and away it went.

Then the LP offered me some upgrades to the Templates software, so I accepted them.

Then the LP stopped working.  I tried System Restore, I tried uninstalling the LP and reinstalling it.  Nothing worked.   I shut it down in the end and went on to the Loksound user group forum to have a whinge.

Turns out there are other dissatisfied Win 7 users as well.  Anyway, this morning the boss of ESU, Matthew Herman emailed me directly to talk me through the problem.

When I fired up the laptop, the updates installed and the LP started working again.  Egg on face.

It appears that sometimes Win 7 updates will download but will not install until the computer has been shut down for a while.  In between, things like the LP which can be sensitive little petals, can't open.

I know everybody knows that, but there might be another numpty like me out there who needs to know this.

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Thanks for sharing your experience Max.

Upgrades can be so frustrating especially so when its a major operating system upgrade.



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Thanks Max.

I had a similar problem with Windows 7. Near on pulling what little hair I have left out, after much snarling and nashing of teeth I phoned my son, who works in IT, he explained the why's and wherefores about how Windows 7 does back up and downloads etc. To be honest most of it went straight over my head. anyway it works OK now. Then I had the problem with logging on to this site which Bob helped with. Where would we be without technology now how? 



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This has been a milestone for me.
I remained calm throughout.  Only the sobbing gave me away.  :mutley 



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I'm sticking with Windows XP for the forseeable future as some of my software (particularly my track planner) is quite old and is not compatible with Windows 7.



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Wise decision, Trevor.  I'm lucky to have several computers here in The Cave and having a backup LP on XP was a lifesaver.



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In my dungeon I have a computer that still works that is using Windows 98 !!



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MaxSouthOz wrote: This has been a milestone for me.
I remained calm throughout.  Only the sobbing gave me away.  :mutley 

:mutley:mutley:mutley

As I said, I have both XP and Win. 7 but don't really use the latter much.  I will have to learn it soon so I can breath some life into the plastic cube sitting in a large cardboard box in the middle of the floor .......

Fortunately, I'm fully conversant with all aspects of computers and their inner workings so don't envisage any blips that will be beyond my skills............:hmm:cheers:cheers:cheers

I am however, a little reticent about opening the box because, according to the label,  it appears there is a mouse inside :shock::shock::shock::shock:

p.s. You couldn't let me have your son's phone number could you Barney ..............;-)



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:mutley  Where do you shovel the coal in?



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When it comes to computers Max, I don't need coal to raise a head of steam !!! :cheers



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Hi Guys

I dont wish to hit the panic button, but all support for XP stops in April 2014. Microsoft are serious this time about killing it off.

In Win7 try the compatability modes when installing the software. If this wont get the software running (may also have to right click on icon and run as administrator), give Virtual box a try.

You could run a virtual XP session on your win 7 machine, or in my case a virtual win7 or xp session on a ubuntu host.

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I hear what you say, Paul.  It's only the support that stops.  XP will still run onwards.

Microsoft support for Win 7 is pretty poor anyway.

I've been trying to get my IE9 .exe file back and no one wants to know.



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paul_l wrote: all support for XP stops in April 2014. Microsoft are serious this time about killing it off.
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Yeah. I had heard that but it still gives me 16 months of XP use before the lights go out.



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gdaysydney wrote: In my dungeon I have a computer that still works that is using Windows 98 !!
W98 SE was the most stable platform that Microsoft had for years  but broadband & 98SE don't work too well together I was told ( OK for dial up access though)



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With the clock ticking down, check which applications will not run on win 7 / 8, then with these multicore ram endowed beasts we have today, try creating a virtual m/c in virtual box or vmware (virtual box is free, and vmware has free versions), you will then be able to run your xp session on a more secure host.
Of course if your xp m/c is standalone (i.e. no network / internet connection) and any device connected to is checked to be virus free before connection, and provided you dont have to replace any hardware - no worries.

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Chinahand wrote: paul_l wrote: all support for XP stops in April 2014. Microsoft are serious this time about killing it off.
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Yeah. I had heard that but it still gives me 16 months of XP use before the lights go out.

Trevor, the lights won't go out, XP will continue to carry on working, it is just updates & support which ceases from Microsoft.
Still many forums that one can use to get answers & fixes from if things go belly up.



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Yes I'm aware of that Ron. It was just a figure of speech.



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Look on the bright side .... it means no more unwanted security updates!!! Apart from this XP machine, I also still run a W98 machine and it is much quicker - and has not had a single system update since I built it in 1998!! Some of the software lacks bells and whistles, but I rarely need them anyway.

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Hopefully the hackers and virus writers will turn their attentions away from XP and concentrate on Windows 7 & 8.



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