Evening all,

Alan has rashly allowed me to join the musings in the eShed, so let me offer a little background.

Having  taken some wrong turnings as a naïve teen, I finally saw the light when  I bought my first property. Trying to get my childhood 8' by 4' solid  baseboard into a 15' by 12' studio flat was never going to work, so dad  acquired my motley collection of LMS, LNER and blue BR stock in OO. He  even had the grace to stay quiet when he noticed the horrible green tank  engine, built by one of the tiny grouping companies <spit> that I  won't profane this board with the name of.

I started afresh and, taking the opportunity to choose the  most sensible modelling scale, began to purchase new and S/H items from Peco  and Farish. Finding the wonderful station plans of Hendry & son, and  the equivalent shed plans of Hawkins & Reeve, provided inspiration  for locating the layout in one of those places shaped by crazy Victorian  rivalry. Period was always going to be the Stanier years and I noticed  that there weren't many wartime layouts on the circuit. The final piece  was provided by a complete allocation list for 1941 in LMS150 by  Whitehouse & St John Thomas.

Design of a prototypically faithful model comprising 9C shed, Hibel Road, Macclesield Central and the old NS/GC goods yard, as seen on 30 May 1941, began.

The model  is a hybrid scale, with each of the four major types of component being  similar but fractionally different. The overall landscape is 1:150 and  is taken from a 1:1,500 plan expanded tenfold. The buildings are  1:152·39981 which is the ratio of 6mm to the (pre-1963 Imperial, not  international) yard - or effectively 2mm:foot. Track is proprietry r-t-r  N at 1:159·45556 and is mostly code 55 Peco Streamline. Finally,  locomotives and stock are r-t-r, 3D prints and simple kits in the  British N 1:148 we know so well.

Additional inspiration has  subsequently come from Essery & Jenkinson and the members of the 24A  model group, who have not only provided companionship and advice but  have also moved three smaller layouts to create a 42' by 14' space for  9C to grow into over the next decade.

Unfortunately, access to  the clubroom above licenced premises has been restricted for a year and  I'm now starting to get very itchy. I've been thinking about some  domestic rearrangement to get a 12' by 4' space in the house, where I  could start on a dual-purpose fiddle yard that would be useful for both  9C and for a small 'toy' layout to build and keep here.

Oye ALAN you left the bloomin gate open again !! Another ones wandered in !!

Welcome aboard David, great to see you here  :hi

We'll ignore the bit of green bashing and just look forward to hearing more about your new project  :thumbs
PS feel free to upload your photos/ Images into the Gallery and show them in your post rather than as attachments if you like ?

Cheers

Matt

Thanks, Matt, I'll do it that way round next time.

If you (or anyone out there) wants to chat about all things N (including manufacturer's strange choices of prototype), or needs to know some detail of LMS history, I'll be dropping by at least every other day.

David.

Hi,

Welcome. This all sounds intriguing, do show / tell us more

Colin

Hi David, and welcome.  N is sadly too small for my eyes and hands (although OO is too large for my space really) but I will be interested in your developments.  LMS history sounds great too.  Just remind me…. what is LMS?  
Michael

Sorry I left the gate open Matt I should have checked as I'm one of those green fraternity,but seriously welcome to the club David.Enjoy.

  Hi David and welcome to our friendly little corner of the internet.
   
  Glad you found the way in and looking forward to your interesting project, despite my interest in the green stuff. Well I am one eighth Irish!
   
  Best,
   
  Bill

OK, I've just tried to upload some stuff into the gallery, as suggested by Matt, Colin, et al…. but when I try to browse in the storage of my tablet for the files I want to attach, the dialogue pops up but won't allow me to select. I put the avatar and one plan up successfully last night when I was on my laptop, so I might have to try again with that when I get home.

:sad:

Yes sorry I often get the same on my tablet, it CAN be a bit temperamental, sometimes 3 or 4 attempts before it attaches the Image. We are on some old creaky software, A bit like some of the members  . Give em a good kick and they work eventually  :thumbs
Cheers

Matt

OK. I've tried two different images…. one of them uploaded immediately on the first attempt and the other kept telling me it was uploading but then took me to a 'my pictures' area which only contained the other (successful) upload - on three separate occasions.

I haven't got time to chase it any more now, the alarm is set for 4am as I'm on earlies for the rest of the week.

Ok when you open the 'Upload photos' dialog box you see 'Choose file/ no file chosen' on five separate lines, You clic k on your first 'choose file' choose your option for file location and go off and choose your Image. You SHOULD get brought back to the first dialog box where you can  click on the next 'choose file' line and select another Image.
  It's Important each time you come back to this dialog box after choosing your Image that you check that 
'choose file/ no file chosen  has changed to 'choose file / Image 1234567 etc.  If it remains as 'no file chosen' and you click upload, you still get the yellow box, It says 'uploading' and then takes you to your Gallery BUT it will have uploaded 'nothing' as nothing was sellected. 

If you dont see the file name/ number attached for upload. Go try choosing again

If you ARE seeing an Image 1234567 etc ( changes depending on your image name/ number selected)

And it doesn't upload ?  Its broke ! Nuthin to do with me !! A big boy did it and ran away!!!   :roll:


HTH. 

Cheers

Matt

[user=1512]Headmaster[/user] wrote:

Hi David, and welcome.  N is sadly too small for my eyes and hands (although OO is too large for my space really) but I will be interested in your developments.  LMS history sounds great too.  Just remind me…. what is LMS?  
Michael

Michael,

You need OO9, 4mm scale all same OO, and a lot of the locos can get around a 9" curve!






Doug

Welcome to the loony bin David.Macclesfield not a million miles from me(Hyde), and N gauge LMS steam era…colour me interested!!!
Cheers,John.B.:thumbs

A very warm welcome to the club David.  :cheers

As in Michael's case, "N" gauge, whilst probably being the idea size for most of us,  is just too small for me to manage - I struggle at times with 4mm scale.

Reading your intro about mixed scales, I wondered if you were either a mathematician, research scientist or some other type of occupation - I wonder what those scales would look like as logarithms   :hmm :???:

 It always amazes me just how many, otherwise quite skilled, modellers there are who simply don't have the confidence to model the LNER.  I suppose the LMS is next best thing …………………

Looking forward to seeing everything come to life but can imagine how frustrating the current situation is with a "club" layout …… :sad:
 

[user=312]Chubber[/user] wrote:

[user=1512]Headmaster[/user] wrote:

Hi David, and welcome.  N is sadly too small for my eyes and hands (although OO is too large for my space really) but I will be interested in your developments.  LMS history sounds great too.  Just remind me…. what is LMS?  
Michael

Michael,
You need OO9, 4mm scale all same OO, and a lot of the locos can get around a 9" curve!
Doug

Sorry David, did I say 'Welcome!' after all that?? I don't think I did, so 'Welcome to the mad-house'. You are now a member of the British Legion of modelling forums…

Doug [aka Chubber]

Peter,

Academically, I graduated from the OU three years ago as an exoplanetary astrophysicist but everything that I do in that field at the moment is on a voluntary basis. While I'm looking around for a full-time paid position, the bills are paid by a job in the transport industry.

In the locality of 9C, the Bollington branch and Macclesfield Central were NS/GC joint and became LMS/LNER joint after the grouping. Apart from the well-known weaknesses of the larger LNER locomotives, the company was almost as progressive as the LMS and is the other constituent of what should rightly be called the 'big two'. It's no shame for you to have chosen to model the second best of those.

Doug,

I'm not sure that's a fair comparison, as I don't think Alan has any intention of asking us to pay directly into his central account at the risk of losing 50,000 members from the Club.

Welcome to the forum! Look forwards to following your progress!

[user=2202]6243[/user] wrote:

………….Apart from the well-known weaknesses of the larger LNER locomotives, the company was almost as progressive as the LMS and is the other constituent of what should rightly be called the 'big two'. It's no shame for you to have chosen to model the second best of those.

  :thumbs :cheers

Welcome aboard, and I look forward to seeing your layout

Welcome Mate,

Looking forward to seeing more details - my eyes find N scale challenging these days, but what the heck, love to see the pics.

Cheers  :cheers