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Good to see the progress.  We have different assembly methods since I like to install handrails and other details after paint. 

What's the story with the sub roofs?

How are the lamp brackets holding up?  My idea is to put loops on my lamps so they can be changed.  I'm uncertain that the plastic will have the strength for that.  I tend to either make them from brass strip or use Slaters cast brass brackets.

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Hi John,
One of my foibles is that I like to see planking under the veranda roof (yes I know that you have to turn it over to see them) so I have started adding them to brake van builds.

Regarding the lamp irons, if I was keeping it I would do like you and use either cast ones or make some. I do plan to make the more vulnerable upper lamp irons from scrap etch but those lower down should be okay or at least they will once I have removed either the centre one or the two outer ones…

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Ah yes, OK.  I scribed the planking on the underside of the Toad roof.  So, I'm with you there.

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Back at the beginning of last year (February) I built a Powsides ex GER 5 plank open. This was an E&T buy at Telford about 3 years ago. 

Warren primed and coated it in grey for me and I have finally got around to adding the transfers ready for some weathering. I must have done a bit of weathering/painting of the woodwork but I can't recall when…
















The last shot has it's load which is one of the Skytrex castings that I bought and painted two or three years ago.




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That looks really good Rob.  The Skytrex stuff seems to be quite good as well, although their wagons were a bit iffy from what I recall.

Wondering about the rusty buffers and couplings.

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[user=565]Brossard[/user] wrote:
Wondering about the rusty buffers and couplings.

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That's just the start of the process.

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Ah right, I will just have to contain myself then.

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I managed to move an even longer term inhabitant of the workbench a bit closer to the finish line this weekend.

I first built the basic kit back in May 2015 but I have only just got around to finishing the transfers. At the time Adrian Marks advised me that at grouping these ended their days in departmental service and as such never received LNER livery, hence this one will be finished in a very scabby GER livery.













A superb kit with all the brake gear being lost wax castings rather than etches.













The only changes I made were to add the tie down rings from bent brass dressmaking pins (I annealed them to bend them).

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Alongside progressing the Kirk twinset (all three bogies are now to the same stage) I have also put together and painted/weathered an ex LMS Steel bodied Ventilated van. 

It still needs couplings and some further work before I will have achieved my aim but I am pleased with progress so far.






















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Another winner to be sure Rob.  Who makes the kit?

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Thanks John, It's a Parkside kit,  Diag D1828

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But…shock, horror, it's plastic  :shock:  I thought you only did brass.

John  :mrgreen:

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Brass when I am at home in Wakefield,  plastic when I am in Bishop Auckland - no soldering facilities there

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For those who notice such things,  I have managed to correct the brakes being the wrong way around in the photos in my last post. 

Plus while  working on the Kirk twin art set I have been slowly assembling a Parkside NBR Jubilee Mineral wagon. Not the best mouldings that I have seen from the Parkside stable but I think it will be fine once painted and weathered.



I made the loops that allow the end door to open on the original from 0.6mm styrene rod which I wound around a 0.5mm drill bit in a PIN vice,  I then poured boiling water over it and then quenched it in cold water which retained the coil. It was then an easy matter to trim and fit the loops. I used a couple of the off cuts to make the rings for the horse hooks. I would have normally used brass wire for these but I didn't have any to hand the correct size so I decide to see what I could do with styrene.





The more observant will note that the brake levers are in different positions in the photos. This is done because I find it a real pain masking them off while painting so I decided to make them move.

To achieve this I drilled the back of the lever and glued in a short section of 1.5mm styrene rod. I drilled through the mounting block under the sole bar and then cut a short length of 1.5mm inside diameter styrene tube to fit over the rod once it passed through the mounting block to create a locking washer which retains the lever but allows movement.





Before it hits the paint shop, I still need to solder the coupling links closed and add the pins and chain to the brake levers.

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Very good Rob.  I've put brake gear on back to front from time to time so I know that you really do need to pay attention.  I like that you have the lever moving.

My friend for whom I built the Connoisseur NBR brake would be excited to see the wagon.  If you intend to sell it, I might just have a customer.

I wanted to start a Parkside/Peco GWR horsebox today but discovered that there were critical frets missing.  Antics have been advised and their assistance requested.

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Thanks John,
The GWR Horsebox kit is a nice kit and goes together very nicely. I ended up selling mine with it not being common user.

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I would say that most Parkside kits are quite good and go together well, when all the parts are present that is.  Wonder if missing parts are a Peco thing. 

The exceptions are brake vans and plastic step hangers and lamp brackets.  Totally inadequate material, needs to be metal a la Slaters.

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Since Telford I have been building some Slaters Wagons for a chap that is suffering from Motor Neurone disease but is endeavouring to make one last layout. They are finally complete and although I have enjoyed the building of them I am glad that they are finished and will be delivered to their owner next weekend at Bristol Show.

They are to be used on a Layout called Hobson's Brewery, hence the faint 'ALE' branding on the cattle wagons.

Here are the official portraits of each van.





Sadly Paul Barlett informs me that running number B68501 belongs to a steel mineral….but I am sure that I took the numbers from the ranges supplied in the Slaters instructions - all things BR not being my strong point.
















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Another session last night saw the GC open is almost finished, it just needs retaining chains for the side doors on the other side and the buffers fitting properly - just posed here for the photos.



The inside is nicely detailed albeit the bottom doors are for the version without the trestle bar so mine will be tarped when finished so they won't be visible.





I will definitely be adding more of these to a shopping list in the future.

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The eagle eyed amongst you will also note that I have attacked the rather square profile of the coupling hook with some diamond coated burrs that fit my Dremel

In true Blue Peter fashion - Before:


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It looks more like a proper coupling hook now

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