Flying Scotsman Update
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Where she is at currently with the rebuild.
Ok, enough Ferraris for a moment… :roll: Here is the latest update on the Flying Scotsman :http://www.flyingscotsman.org.uk/see/photos.aspx
Cheers, Gary.
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Terry
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When the engine was relatively new and in service….if the wheels fell off and they put new wheels on or indeed had to make new wheels….isn`t that the same thing??? It`s not the original engine.
The only difference being the time factor now. It`s many years since she was new.
The necessary replacement parts to get the engine roadworthy surely would be made to the same specs or possibly improved, but I would imagine everything that is replaced is identical to the original.
Without the rebuilds we wouldn`t be able to enjoy these old machines today.
:cheers Gormo
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it was already on fire when I got here, honest!
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Now if they follow LNWR loco painting in practice it will probably take longer than the rebuild.
Cheers,
Derek.
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But they are no longer old machines. That was my point. Are we in fact enjoying new machines with old names?
Terry
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We are only enjoying new machines with old names if nothing at all remains of the original engine.
This is the problem with any type of restoration. How do you classify it. In my book a restoration begins with what`s left of the original. What is working is used and what is not working is either repaired / restored or replaced. Ideally for me at least 80% of the original remains in good enough condition to be restored. This may not always be the case though, and one must make a judgement call on whether the task is worth doing.
On the other hand if there is nothing left of the original and copies are made, well obviously this is a copy and has no heritage to it`s name…….an imposter. Imposters or copies in most things are just that…..no heritage with them….no link to the past and therefore are OK to look at but not held in high regard as a restoration would be to me.
I reckon everybody has their own opinion about such things and this can lead to feelings and emotions about what is right and what is wrong. It`s one of those subjects where you will rarely achieve consensus.
:cheers Gormo
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Terry
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Cars seem to have got it better sorted by fixing dates. "Veteran" - manufactured up to December 1918, "Vintage" - manufactured between 1919 and 1930, "Post-Vintage Thoroughbred" - for the "interesting marques" that fell into neither of these age ranges and finally, "Classic" for "popular cars" no longer in production. With cars, to have any real value, they have to be "original" although obviously they can be "reconditioned".
We have "heritage" stuff from the 50's and maybe even later so I'm not sure what "heritage" actually means …………..:roll::roll::roll:
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Heritage or no?
Ed
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Cheers Derek.
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Regardless of the how the restoration/overhaul is done, to many, it still has the sole of the former locomotive that many grew up with. It would be a completely different story if they renumbered a loco of the same class… :It's a no no
Cheers, Gary.
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http://www.flyingscotsman.org.uk/see/photos.aspx
http://www.yorkpress.co.uk/news/13773203.Behind_the_scenes_at_the_rebuilding_of_the_Flying_Scotman/
http://www.flyingscotsman.org.uk/scotsman-season.aspx
The first outing will be held on 9-10 and 16-17 January 2016 at the East Lancashire Railway.
Cheers, Gary.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BUl6PooveJE
Fantastic to see the old king of the rails getting fit and well again though!
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Ted
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A new one (a la Tornado) would probably have been far cheaper to build from scratch.
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I used to be indecisive but now I'm not sure.
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To me, one of the last "great" Rolls models.
I didn't think you could do much yourself with those cars without the specialist RR equipment ……………..:roll::roll:
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For your pleasure. No, it's not my house!
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I used to be indecisive but now I'm not sure.
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