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So the question has come up, and that is do you weather your locos.

basically i have a limited edition Bachmann LMS 10000, i purchased this loco to run on a layout, not to sit in a box hoping it will increase in value.

however i think if a limited edition loco is modified correctly then it would also make it desirable.

so here is a picture of my LMS 10000 before.



its a great looking model but in my opinion looks like a model not the real thing, so…………







i went for a light weather as i'm modelling right at the end of the LMS ownership and they still kept her clean until british rail got hold of her.

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Ithink you have got it about right and it is an improvement,
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I'd say try to look at as many photos as you can Jimmy.  As it is, you've lightly weathered the model which is good.  My instincts tell me that bogies and nether regions would have been quite dirty after some time in service.  Given that 10000 was delivered only weeks before nationalisation, it wouldn't have had a chance to get really grimy.

The problem I always have with weathering older locos and rolling stock is that there are so few colour pictures and those that exist tend to be unclear.  I usually go with common sense. 

I was tempted to get this model but my era is mid 30s LMS and I've committed to myself to only get those locos I "need".

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It certainly makes a difference, Jim.   :thumbs

I always weather mine.
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I think that looks excellent Jim.
Can I ask what you did & how you did it ?


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I meant to add Jimmy, that it looks to me as if you used an airbrush but only sprayed on some earth.  Fine as it goes but a follow up very light coat of black makes a difference.  Weathering powders (I mostly use umber, black and rust) can be used to highlight other areas of detail like streaks from the exhaust and the watery/oily mess around the bogies.

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A light weathering makes all the difference to anything which is intended to be presented as a "working" model as opposed to one kept in a box for its value.

I have done the same with some certificated limited editions - just a light application of powders to the exhaust ports, bogies and frames which would discolour first after any repaint.

Looking good there.

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I wish I could say that this weathering is my handy work but sadly it is not. It was done via www.thelittlelayoutcompany.co.uk.

I thought about doing it myself but was far to scared I would ruin it.
However the man that has weathered it, Paul has used an airbrush, and once he is happy with the effect he coats the entire loco in varnish to protect it.

Next on the plate is some modifications that I am currently doing to another limited edition before that gets weathered.

I'd love to see some of your modifications and weathering on this post.
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Jimmy, I wouldn't worry about the model increasing in value.  As both Dapol and Bachmann have produced this loco, they must be as common as beer mats.  Squirt away with the airbrush and don't worry about it. 

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John
states "..I've committed to myself to only get those locos I "need.."
That leads to the obvious question "how many locos is enough?"
I have only seen one answer to that question.
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The answer is, "Too many is never enough."   . . .  or should that be "are never enough?"

I can never remember.    :hmm
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you got it right first time Max,"is":pathead
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Thanks, Owen.  :cool:

It always confuses me.  :???:
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If ever I am challenged on the subject of having "too many" locomotives / trains I have up my sleeve the come-back of "how many tea-pots do you have?  And how many do you ever use at once?"

For each action there is an equal and opposite reaction ;-)

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What I meant was that I will, in the future, buy myself those locos that suit the layout I have in mind.  Small to medium tank engines are the thing I believe, with some tender locos thrown in the mix.  Bachmann will release the Stanier mogul one of these days but as I have the Horwich mogul already, I don't need it.  Will I buy it?  I don't know.  I certainly will not be buying any pacifics.

As it is I probably have "too many" although not the dozens that some people seem t o accumulate.

In fact, while we're on the subject, it has always puzzled me why there has been such emphasis on the big engines (manufacturers profits are one obvious reason).  I suspect that most people with layouts don't have a lot of room, so the smaller engines and shorter trains would seem to me to be the logical choice.   

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since when did logic come into model railways ? I started small then found a bigger room so things got bigger then I found the loft even bigger wow,,very ilogical really,,:thudsame with loco s better ones out so buy it !!
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