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Micro Layout Plan

Thoughts on a Micro-Layout.


Based on Wye River City (sort of) ……

http://www.carendt.com/micro-layout-design-gallery/end-line/

I've already bought two bits of O gauge track, big init  :shock: :shock:  :thud


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Have done some track laying.







Just wondering about transfer of coal from mainline wagon to narrow gauge.

  (and I must change that guttering on the goods store)


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Hi Ed,

Transfer of minerals (coal, iron ore), was normally done with a ramp, narrow gauge above, standard gauge below, and a shovel. Or Hudson "Rugga" V-tippers would be used. Bigger operations used fixed wagons and a rotary tippler, and several switchbacks on a ramp where the final highest one had the wagons backed up, and they would then descend by gravity to the tippler. Not sure you have the space for a ramp (usually 1:20-1:30), although you just could drop the front and have the standard gauge below (and longer)..A shelf fixed to the bottom of the front should do it. Or just remove the top at the front, make an L and keep the same width. Room for an O-scale 0-6-0 shunter and a guard's van! Full out, empties back.

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I'm going the other way Nigel, from the standard gauge wagon to the narrow gauge.

Found this which involves a chute

https://www.flickr.com/photos/train-pix/5537765818/

https://www.flickr.com/photos/train-pix/5537183597/

but I also found this….

http://www.warwickshirerailways.com/gwr/gwrw2167a.htm

Looks like two guys in the second to last wagon with the door open. Assume they were filling the narrow gauge wagon by just shoveling out the door of the standard gauge.

Mind you, shelf at the front, drop the standard gauge line and load the standard gauge from the narrow gauge  :hmm

Think an O gauge shunter is a bit out of my price range though  :lol:


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I'm going the other way Nigel, from the standard gauge wagon to the narrow gauge.





Think an O gauge shunter is a bit out of my price range though  :lol:





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There's always the Atlas 'Plymouth' 0-6-0, or the Lima 0-4-0,
both still commonly available, normally under £50 for a good
runner (Atlas would be better for slow running)

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You naughty people, trying to get me to scale up to O gauge  :It's a no no


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Hi Ed,

Standard to narrow then (should have worked that one out). Same thing, up the level of the standard, or lower the narrow. Or use lower sided narrow gauge wagons. Personally I'd raise the standard line .A narrow gauge wagon of the size you have would hold around 1-2 ton of coal, a standard wagon holds 10 tons. You'll need to do a lot of shunting with one narrow gauge wagon. What's the story line - loco coal, or an off-site location such as a hospital or estate? Most industrial lines just had it dumped (from the standard wagon into a staithe or onto an elevated platform).

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Thanks Nigel, think I'll try and raise the standard gauge line a bit and see if I can fit some sort of chute in the available space.

Story line could be something like the Southwold Railway, narrow gauge feeder to mainline which had bypassed the town.

Coal and goods in and local produce out, plus a large dose of Rule 1.


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Hi Ed,

On30 or 7mm narrow gauge - anything goes. There is or was a prototype for it somewhere.  I have a great picture of a standard to narrow gauge interchange somewhere in India with coal being moved one bucket at a time on top of the heads of about 20 workers, and using planks down from the standard wagon.

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I've been playing around in SCARM to see what raising the standard gauge  line would look like (black walls are the fiddle yard)….





which is fine, until you look from the front of the layout



Basically blocks the view, so the standard gauge line can be raised, but not by much.

So I'm evoking Rule 1 and there will be lots of shoveling to do to load the narrow gauge wagons.


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Do you think a trellis structure to support the standard gauge might answer Ed? Perhaps some fun with coffee stirers!

I do like your idea for this project.

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Nice idea Bill, but might be a bit fragile right near the front of the board which has to be carried in and out of the garage.

Raising the standard gauge line by about 12mm (the thickness of two bits of MDF I happen to have) gives



and from the front



Quick test on 10mm of stacked card




All I need is for the weather to warm up a bit so I can get out in the garage and cut some MDF, but looking at the forecast it ain't gonna be next week  :cry:



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I decided that my Minories styled garage layout Latton Street wasn't really going anywhere, so I've abandoned the build and lifted the track.

Basically, it's been done before many times and with far better results than I could ever achieve in the small space I have available.

Then just for fun, I thought I'd try laying a ten inch(ish) radius curve around the 600mm wide board.

Apologies for the pictures but it's very dark in the back of the garage, even on a bright sunny day with the lights on. If I ever do  build something in there I'll have to sort out some additional lighting.









Prior to taking these posed pictures, I did test it works ok by adding a couple of bits of flexitrack to the ends of the curves, powered by crocodile clips.

So, food for thought !


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Transfer siding wasn't going anywhere, but the engine shed now has a home.





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I had a spare baseboard which I've cut more or less in half to give me an additional 18.5" (473mm) bolt on traverser/transfer table/thingy/whotsit.

Makes the whole thing just over five and a half feet (1693mm), which just about fits indoors ready for the cold weather.

Each of the fiddle yard tracks are just under 400mm and should take a loco and three bits of rolling stock.

Just sorting out power to the fiddle yard bit.







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When I started with the idea of compact layouts I managed to get an oval onto A3 and then A4. Using 00 track. Four wheelers managed OK. I was at a show and some guy was selling even smaller 'layouts' on boards. Really they were just for show.
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If short of whisky tokens for an O gauge shunter, how's about an 'orse? Think stable,. Neddy with a nose bag on, etc

I think Metcalf's might do a stable thing….

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