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Hi All.   If one fancies something on eBay, but misses out. Will that same item be offered again if the successful bidder doesn't go through with the sale??   All the best. Kevin

Maybe, maybe not. It rather depends on the seller Kevin.

Hi Kevin,

It depends on whether the seller has opted for "second chance" where the next highest bidder is offered it. Most don't. The majority of sellers just relist it. If you missed out on that once-in-a-lifetime locomotive, don't worry, there will be another one along, often at a better price and in better condition.

Some advice here. Set a budget, do not ever go past it. You can find out how much identical items went for by going into advanced search (top right), and ticking the box labelled "sold items". I normally average the last 5 or 10 sales to get some idea of what is realistic. To avoid all those ebay messages telling you that "your current bid has been beaten, you should increase it!" always bid in the last 30-15 seconds. That way you can see if your budget has been exceeded or not. And you don't have enough time to succumb to temptation and increase your bid if a competing buyer has put a high offer in. This was a common scam for a few years when "friends of sellers" would keep upping the price if they saw a determined bidder going for it early. Bit like used car auction rings used to be.

Nigel

Hi Nigel Thank you, I would like think that I always stick to my limit? As you say there will always be another one along. I will just have to keep my eyes peeled.   All the best. Kevin

Hi Bill. Thank you, but what I meant is , if one gets outbid.? And then that bidder doesn't go through with the payment? What happens next , forget about it ? Or whatever?   All the best.  Kevin

I knew what you meant Kevin and as I said, it's entirely up to the seller, as he is in control of the process.

Nigel has already described the 'second chance' option, which I also believe is seldom used and of course, the seller may also re-list or indeed insist that the winning bidder completes the legally biding contract. All water under the bridge though, as far as you are concerned, unless the item is re-listed and then you can try again.

After all said and done, there are many other pebbles on the beach and you shouldn't worry much over spilt milk.

Onwards and upwards!

Cheers,

Bill 

Hi Bill.   Thank you. I shall have to treat eBay like buses, "If you miss one.? there will be another three in ten minutes."    All the best. Kevin

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I knew what you meant Kevin and as I said, it's entirely up to the seller, as he is in control of the process.

Nigel has already described the 'second chance' option, which I also believe is seldom used and of course, the seller may also re-list or indeed insist that the winning bidder completes the legally biding contract. All water under the bridge though, as far as you are concerned, unless the item is re-listed and then you can try again.

After all said and done, there are many other pebbles on the beach and you shouldn't worry much over spilt milk.

Onwards and upwards!

Cheers,

Bill 

Hi Terry.  I realise that the best bet is to "Avoid Auction Fever" completely! If it is a must have? Then keep em peeled-at the next Model Show and be patient, another one will come along. All the best.  Kevin

Hi Bill.   As I said, I waited for another SR Queen Mary Brake Van , and one came along, as they say"fan Danny Dozy" or Yipee.  All the best. Kevin

Hi Everyone.   I have found the “Error of my Ways” and now I am doing my best to avoid eBay and Debit Card sales.I have begun this task by phoning Hattons , I ask if they would accept a BACS payment , after a chat? they replied they can accept cheques, postal orders or shop customers and cash. None of the above appeal to me for practical reasons and geography . I will have to shop closer to home. Any ideas please?  Best wishes. Kevin

I often use Hattons Kevin, as they are very fast, efficient and deliver to France for very low rates and I pay using credit card or Paypal (effectively the same thing).

Kenrow Model Rail Centre also do a similar service, at almost the same prices andeven have their own model commisions.

Just be very careful to check the photos and descriptions with Hattons pre-owned items, as some abnormalities occasionally make it onto their website.
 
Happy shopping,

Bill

Hi Bill.  I have used both Hattons and Kernow since my return to railway modelling without any problems,also eBay and refunds via PayPal , but recently received an email, asking about my recent “direct debit” from a company
that I had not applied to. Straight away, I phoned my bank etc etc. After going through all the bother of changing my account , which is rather inconvenient, I would prefer another method of payment, and cash in person would seem the safest way to go??? A bit of a PITA all the same. Vibe La Difference?  Best wishes.  Kevin

It sounds as if you received a 'phising' email Kevin, that is a fraudulent scam mail trying to trick you into giving personal infomation, in this case bank details, in order to steal money from you.

These are extremelly common and are sent out in the tens of millions every day by automated robot programmes. We get them all the time, usually straight to the junk folders and they all get reported and blocked.

They're usually very easy to spot (check the originating email address, it usually bears little resemblance to the purporeted sender) and you did the right thing by contacting your bank. It was probably not necessary to change your account, as the scammers have no idea who you are, who you bank with, etc and just fishing, hoping to get lucky.

All banks give lots of advice of how to stay safe online and I hope with their help, you find a way not to let this get in the way of your modelling, as life can be difficult enough withoput having to cope with the inconvenience of online shoping and credit cards. It is however, refreshing to take a break from it all from time to time though!

Stay safe and be happy,

Bill

Hi Bill.  Cheers.  Years ago now, 25 to 30 roughly. I had been shopping in Tesco , next thing I had spent £400.00 in Tesco bought a new phone etc etc and many more. No letters, I didn’t even have a mobile or computer and I never heard of emails. Then I phoned my bank and they wanted to know the insides of a cats ><Â¥}][{. If you know what I mean?? And there’s where I got the idea of a new account .    Best wishes.   Kevin

Hi Kevin,

Set up an account with Hattons and order using CC. The CC details are not kept on file. I've done so for the past 10 years without any problems. Or get the shopping list together, buy a day return and visit them. Brush up on scouse before you go.

eBay and PayPal are pretty foolproof as well. Same company, but it means that orders via eBay are kept at arms length from payment via PayPal. Any email about your account is fraudulent, Paypal does not contact you except by mail or telephone. Only hiccup is if you move countries, you need to close one account and open a new one with a different email address, and get them to transfer any funds from one to the other as you can't pay yourself.

I use checks quite often over here.

Nigel

Hi Nigel. Thank you for your reply. CC??? the only CC that I am familiar with is when one sends the same email simultaneously to more than one contact. I had ask Hattons about Cheques and they are acceptable . But letters and account details can go missing in the post??  A postal was something that I was considering , or a “Basket of goods” if I have the patience to wait? As for eBay I didn’t know that was the same company as PayPal . I just thought that it was down to being a “frequent customer “ that landed me in it. It must be something to do with mobile phones, now I think about it, that is the third incident connected to them, the phone that I didn’t buy from Tesco ( at the time It was suggested that mobiles are a way in for fraudsters, if they get away with a mobile? Then they go big, hence the Â£400.00 pound Tesco bill) and what with other Bogus/Spoof attack’s becoming prevalent one doesn’t know which way to turn  Best wishes. Kevin

Kevin  CC = credit card.
Paypal is safe..

Hi Ron   Thank you again.  PayPal maybe safe alright, maybe after my experience as outlined with Tesco , I had better stick to my new rule of “Cash only in Supermarkets”, a bit of a PITA . But I am certain supermarkets would claim to be as safe as PayPal . Best wishes. Kevin

One thing I have noticed on E Bay when bidding for kits is that some folk will get a tad carried away with their bidding and go way over the top with what an item is worth.

I normally bid for kits. Many of the kits I bid for such as Alan Gibson, Roxey Mouldings and PDK are still readily available from the manufacturers.

More than once I have bid for kits on the basis that if I get it cheap enough then I am willing to accept that something may be missing or not quite right and that for the correct price I can make up any deficiencies. E.G. I recently bought an Alan Gisbon loco kit that came with P4 wheels. The price was low enough for me to buy the appropriate EM wheels and put the P4 items back on E Bay on a take what ever I can get basis.

I am often amused to see such kits go way above the price it will cost to buy a brand new kit with the added garuntee that if a part is missing then a quick phone call or E Mail will get the part to my doorstep within the week.

I once saw 3 Roxey Mouldings LSWR carriages go £10 over their retail price. When I caught up with Dave Hammersley of Roxey Mouldings a couple of weeks later he assured me that he was more than happy to negotiate a higher price for his products if those bidders were to ask him nicely! :cool: