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Assembling Kadee Couplers
Kadee do say "Non-delayed or Delayed uncoupler" when referring to their in- or under-track magnets. As Sol said, the delayed ones are much wider and stronger. "Delayed magnet" is casual (short) speak for "the magnet that is used when delayed uncoupling is desired". The point is that if you want to perform shunting (switching or spotting here) you need a magnet that triggers the delayed function of the Kadee coupler. I'd like to hear from the folks who use the small neodymium magnets whether the delayed function kicks in reliably or whether they are just good for uncoupling and nothing else. One of those "good to know" items.The Kadee system (and it is a system that works best with its designed components) was developed for North American HO and OO modelers, and was intended to be a replacement for Rapido-type coupers (which used ramps for uncoupling). It was never intended for UK OO use. It does however provide a very viable alternative to tension locks (which appear to be a development of the old Baker locks, although who came first is an interesting question) if used correctly.
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Typical Americans, they never have got the hang of using the language properly, and don't get me started on their attempts at spelling!
Same could be said for the Brits these days. American English is not English English, same goes for French and Québecois, and for that matter Strine.
Spelling - that's the result of the Simplified Spelling Board in 1906. And we're talking about 300 words. Which made reading and writing a lot easier for a massive influx of non-English speaking immigrants.
Using the language properly? Anybody who has read "Coleman's Balls" and listened to David Coleman's commentary when Alberto Juantorena was running will appreciate the damage television "speak" can do.
Bit like Flemish and Dutch ("Flemish and Dutch are going down the path of mutual unintelligibility"). Probably best not to throw stones or criticize a language until you've lived it for a few years.
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as per http://yourmodelrailway.net/view_topic.php?id=8481&forum_id=6
and find they work well and delayed.
Ron
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Thanks, nice to know. Must be enough pull to activate the push part of the mechanism.
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Staying on the thread Kevin.
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Hmm, this did sound familiar:Hi John. I do understand that this is a well trodden path. But I have managed to assemble a Kadee #5 coupler, but I put it away, thinking that it would be okay. Later it was in pieces again? Is this normal? I thought that it was "Clicked" together and it would stay, should I have glued it? Best wishes. Kevin
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Can I assume you mean #5 couplings Kevin? I agree they are a bit fiddly but not impossible.
Lay the phosphor bronze (not copper) spring on the flat or top piece of the gearbox with the open end of the spring facing the lip end of the top.
Put the coupling, with the trip pin up on the spring giving it a bit of a wiggle to seat it.
The really fiddly bit is to now put the other half of the gearbox on and I guess this will have to come with practice. When you finally get everything together, splosh some plastic weld on the join and leave it to set. I use small plastic spring clamps for this. I must have done hundreds.
John
Well done getting your #5s together Kevin. Now you know how, good luck with the remainder of youe stock.
Bonne courage!
Bill
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At 6'4'', Bill is a tall chap, then again, when horizontal he is rather long and people often used to trip over him! . . . and so a nickname was born :)
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Best wishes. Kevin
Staying on the thread Kevin.
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Too much glue and it will soak into the draft gearbox and set everything solid. I use it very sparingly. :cool wink
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Staying on the thread Kevin.
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I do believe if you revisit my above post, you will see that it was clearly quoting John's post No 2 of this thread, in which he pre-empted Kevin's need to know about glueing his Kadee #5s. The 'sloshing' of liquid solvent was given in good humour by John, in much the same style as my own sense of humour may have delivered it.
Don't let's forget that modelling is meant to be fun!
Best,
Bill
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Hi Ron. Thank you for your reply. Now I am totally confused. What is the difference with 232? ……………
Best wishes. Kevin
Kevin, 232 is the original box
https://kadee.com/htmbord/page232.htm
while 242 is the new box
https://kadee.com/htmbord/page242.htm
which was detailed in http://yourmodelrailway.net/view_topic.php?id=8591&forum_id=156
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Chin up old chap and unlike glue, may your household be abundantly sploshed with good humour.
Bill
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Staying on the thread Kevin.
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Staying on the thread Kevin.
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KD #3 pack containing 2 pairs of 148 medium couplers in a 242 gearbox, ready assembled. Screw through the hole in the middle. Medium length, center shank. DIY? The 242 gearbox has a snap lid, it doesn't need gluing if a screw is used. Whisker couplers save the trouble of messing around with the bronze box spring. Standard head whisker couplers come in short, medium and long, under-, center- or over-set.
Check out the KaDee website, it has all the details.
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Staying on the thread Kevin.
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KD have all the dimensions on the website, but see below. Plus you generally have 2-3mm movement to adjust. Mid point of the knuckle is supposed to be level with the buffer head. Which is OK with sprung buffers. I used to have the KD 2-3mm longer than the head to allow the stock to go around curves. You have a better range of adjustment with the KD 362 NEM couplers, around 7-12mm.
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