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5 times longer in coming than Brunel took making the real thing!

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Hi Matt/Marty/Bill.  Marty is right about how close the poles are.  I've tried filing down a steel pin but now either the pole snaps (old plastic!) or I stab my finger when the pin goes through - I think it's more than just a little swarf.  I have to shine a torch through to see where the holes are (should be!) as well.  I think it's either pull them all out & put in post & rail fencing or Marty's idea of a lot of vegetation - leaning towards the latter.  Sandra said just wrap the wire around the post but that's not at all G.W..  Bill's idea would work as it can only be viewed from one side - still have to cut 160 slots though!
No wonder it takes so long to do anything.  I thought "few fence posts, dab of paint, thread the wire - couple of hours".  Took me longer than that to file down the pins!

Thanks for the river comments Marty but you must share some of the credit.  The fall did shake me up but I broke all the basic rules - 3 points of contact etc.  I thought "I can just reach this last branch without having to move the ladder if I just turn around" so momentarily 0 points of contact with the inevitable result.  Like most accidents, a momentary lapse of reason (to quote Floyd).

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Michael - typical Headmaster you've marked the paper without reading it through!  :lol:Peter - can I get a .3mm drill bit?
As I'm the nutter who details signal box interiors when they won't be seen I don't know if I can have a 'wireless' fence.

Anyway, here's another gratuitous photo of a pretty intruder:



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My set goes down to 0.5 Mal. And it is TINY !!
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I thought you said the wire was 0.3mm Mal ……  If that's the case, you'll need a drill of, at the smallest 0.5mm - probably more.  I've recently been using a 0.8mm drill in my pin vice and it's certainly not the smallest in the set. 

Not sure what the smallest I have is but, as Matt says, it's tiny.  Any smaller, you'd have a job seeing it, in which case, I wouldn't bother with the wire Mal - you most likely won't be able to see it !!!

This is similar to the set I've got - I just googled "micro drill set" and this happened to be in the southern hemisphere - maybe you could find similar in S.A……..

http://www.jaycar.com.au › 20-piece-micr…
20 Piece Micro Drill Set 0.3 - 1.6mm CAT.NO: TD2406 $12.95 - Jaycar


Sorry - it appears the link only gets you to Jaycar but their catalogue number is there too ….

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Thanks for that Peter.  You will remember in the 19C they called Africa the 'Dark Continent'?  Well it's not much brighter now!  I have found a supplier  in S.A. with a Carbide PCB drill set that goes down to .03!  I've asked them for a quote.  I suppose I could use my variable speed Dremel but I'll have to pull up all the posts - far too fiddly in situ.  Curse faulty manufacture & poor quality control!

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  Hi Mal,
 
Do you know if the collet of the Dremel will fit those tiny drills? I had some issues last summer with mine and had to find another chuck to hold a smallish cutting disc for some stone mosaic I was finessing in a new shower room. For small drills, I’ve now use sets all having a common larger diameter shank, which fit into all my drills and pin vices, so life is a tad easier.
 
Good luck and best wishes,
 
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At 6'4'', Bill is a tall chap, then again, when horizontal he is rather long and people often used to trip over him! . . . and so a nickname was born :)
 
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If you buy the drill Mal, wrap the end with tape or similar and use your fingers as a pin vice.  I've just done that this morning with a 0.8mm drill into a servo horn - worked a treat !

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Hi Mal

I have a couple of sets of collets of different sizes.  Eileens Emporium (UK-SA postage???) or Ebay (SA at all?).  Not sure what the model shop situation is in SA and if they are delivering during the lockdowns.  Any decent shop should stock this sort of thing.  The DIY sheds in the UK sell Dremmel bits and pieces so that could be another option.

The good news is that the collet sets are only a few £££.

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Seems I start all my posts with "can't believe how long since my last post" & this one is no different!  After making a serious progress effort early 2021, fate had other plans starting with Sandra having a fall & landing on her prosthetic elbow in April.  This became infected, & to cut very involved story short November 2021 had to have elbow removed, surgeons all go away for summer holidays, so Christmas 2021 spent with arm held together with a plank & bandages.  January 2022 had to take her to casualty with severe pain & swelling, admitted for infection treatment then contracted hospital superbug.  Then followed 5 months of hospital in isolation to try & beat infection until her new prosthetic could be fitted.  Came out of hospital July 2022 with a prosthetic arm, 20 Kg lighter, unable to walk & suffering severe ptsd & needing a lot of r. & r..  Along with that we were having 2-10 hours of power-outs every day, so zero time to even think about the railway.  We also lost our two St Bernards, one to bloat & the other to skin cancer.

So it wasn't until September 2023 I made a bit of time available by putting aside other jobs.  Because I'd been determined to keep up progress I hadn't covered everything, so first job was a big clean up.  I have printed a lot of Scalescenes stuff, & I was disappointed to notice extreme colour deterioration on some of the printing, none of which had been exposed to direct sunlight, some of which had been left face down.

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One of the walls on the viaduct were also affected.  I've disguised the join in the backscene by a big tree but unfortunately only the last sheet was OK the rest all looks very 'misty'.  II've put this down to using compatible ink cartridges in the Canon.  A new set of Canon carts is now over £100 so I was tempted to use compats at a third of the cost, & when you print them it looks OK.  However it seems the Canon carts have an 'anti-fading' ingredient (why didn't I find this out before?) so when you consider the amount of work that goes in to making anything it's not worth the saving.  Replacing the viaduct wall was a mission as I'd ballasted etc.

Speaking of ballasting - I HATE BALLASTING.  I made the mistake of using the Woodlands track base.  Good thing - quiet running. BAD things - expensive, can't use track pins because pushing a pin through takes the sleeper out of the ties, raises the track height so all your clearances are out so platforms, bridges etc. have to be raised & in open areas the ground has to be raised.  Then there is ballasting.  You can't use the normal way of spreading the ballast then spraying or dripping glue solution as the ballast just washes off.  You have to spread neat glue on the shoulders, then lay the ballast, then gently drip the solution careful not to move the ballast, & you must absolutely soak it thoroughly or it won't stick. (First time I did it expecting the solution to dissipate, when I ran the vacuum over a couple of days later most of it came off!)  Wish I'd just used the cork underlay as in Easewood - doesn't fill the sleepers but looks a lot neater, less messy & way easier.

Anyway. here's the station area & throat finished.  Because you have to use so much adhesive, I've had problem with a few points even though I was mega careful.

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You can see the differences in the platform surfaces colouring - can't do anything about it so we'll have to put it down to additions made when the G.W. took over the Easewood to Ottersford Railway.

More progress I hope later.

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Well that didn't go according to plan - has duplicated the ballast pics but omitted the pics of colour variations I loaded first!

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Sorry to hear of all your problems Mal - when you read things like that, it makes one realise that I really have no right to grumble about the odd problems I face from time to time.  I hope Sandra is recovering.  What with that and your dogs, you've had one hell of a time…………………………..

I know what you mean about colour fade on Scalescenes prints.  I have some buildings where there's only a hint of the original detail left and they've never seen the sun - just strip lighting which I'm told, is equally bad.  I haven't noticed a huge difference in colour fastness between generic inks and genuine HP ones.  There is however, a massive difference in price !!

Some people recommend using a UV blocking artists spray but they cost a fortune here in France.  The fading became such a problem to me that I almost kicked card modelling into touch in favour of plasticard but then realised I can't paint to save my life.  In the end, I bought a laser printer which doeswn't offer such a high quality print as the inkjet did but it doesn't fade …………………………..or hasn't yet. :puppyeyes:

Similarly, I used Woodland Scenics ballast on Maxmill Mk 1 and struggled to keep it in place when applying diluted glue.  It's ground up shells I think - very fine but also very light and the very devil to wet.  If memory serves me right, I initially misted it from a height with "wet water" then used an eye dropper to flood it very carefully with the 50/50 PVA/wet water mix.

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These are the pics missing from previous post

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Done the same thing - duplicated 2nd pic & left out first!  Got some updates but want to know what's happening here.

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Go to 'new attachment' then 'browse' to get the pic.  Says everything OK

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Since taking the last pics back in September, we had a little break from severe power cuts so I made another push to make some progress.  This is a similar view from after the ballasting:

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I'm just going to post this to see if OK because you don't get a preview!

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Well that seemed to work OK.  I didn't know what to do with the 'Gaza Strip' between the station & the dock branch to the left.  I was just going to have trees but I've made over 100 & they just disappear so I decided on some railway workers cottages.  I had to cobble up an overbridge for access & make a lot of wall from scalescenes bits.  The 28XX waits for the road as the London-Penzance express pulls in to Ottersford.

Going to try more pics:

(Well that didn't work!)

The Easewood branch train hurries to make the London connection with Dean Goods in control.  The game keeper is asking the signal man if he has seen any suspicious activity - best he doesn't look in the lamp hut.  You can see how some of the backscene has faded badly - far right is how it should be.  A large tree hides the change.
 

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Hoping this pic. will make sense of the last post!

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OK try some more.

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This is City of Bath at the head of the express.  I must have had the station lamps a while - Merit box said 2/6 for 10 pieces! I've had to paint them but I see Hornby ones are now £10 for 4 (still need painting).

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Another view of City Of Bath with 44XX in the bay with local stopping train.

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The very expensive Hornby station building is an attractive enough model but useless as a station building because it doesn't have an entrance (or an exit whichever way you want to look at it).  I've 'westernised' it but when I get a chance I'll build the Scalescenes one.

(Taken a chance with 3 photos so let's see.)

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Yahoo worked OK.  Sorry pics a bit blurry but I've had a big problem with shaky hands recently, which meant making this Governess cart a bit of a challenge:

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Doc. says it's probably anxiety with all the recent stresses or could be start of Parkinson's! Oh joy.

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Another view of the cottages.  You will notice a dearth of peoples in all these shots & when planning these large layouts you don't realise how many things you are going to need.  Already 100+ trees & nowhere near enough. People, even for a 1920s country station. Signalling - vital part of the railway scene & I haven't even started (& have you seen the prices of signals?).  In fact the price of everything for this hobby.  I'm lucky that I bought so much over the years in times of plenty (now broke on a pension that was frozen in 2016) that I can't envisage having to buy much to make a lot more progress.

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Another view of the 'finished' end.  The water tower pumps water from the Otter (& conveniently hides a point motor).

We've been back to regular power outs since January so not much more has been done.  I'm not sure which bit to do next - dock section, loco yard, goods yard or link to Easewood.  A tip for anyone in the planning stage - put your turntable in before the wiring is done.  This is directly under where the turntable should go:

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So I think I'll have to forget the expensive motorising kit & have a Mexican turntable!

Will post more when any further developments.

Good luck to all.  Mal




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