Following approval by the Management to move upstairs to the corner bedroom, I have had to go from 16'-6" x 2ft-6" to 12ft-10" x 2ft with a bit of dog-leg at one end. Here is my latest and hopefully near final effort [redolet lucerna…]

To be used with a 45XX, Pannier and Diesel railcar, set in 1930-40s. ['c' equals trap point]




Please feel free to make any  comments. The little blue and brown beetle thingys are scale sized Thornycroft lorries, for checking access clearance etc. Maybe the disused lime kiln could have some half buried NG track nearby with a rusting old tippler or two. The right hand brown 'cliff area' is to be lightly wooded as is the area around the mill. I hope to put in some 'town' in the left hand corner and along the back edge.  I hope to keep the goods yard open  in appearance to allow one or two cameos, etc.


Doug

I think it looks really good, my only observation is after looking at it for a while if it was mine, I would make the forward centre line parallel with the baseboard and therefore the line behind it. I think you could still get a curve and keep a decent length of straight. Not sure why I say this ! Perhaps In my mind a parallel pair of tracks gives more scope for scenic details in between ?

[user=440]RJR[/user] wrote:

I think it looks really good, my only observation is after looking at it for a while if it was mine, I would make the forward centre line parallel with the baseboard and therefore the line behind it. I think you could still get a curve and keep a decent length of straight. Not sure why I say this ! Perhaps In my mind a parallel pair of tracks gives more scope for scenic details in between ?

Gosh, that was quick, John!  I agree it would perhaps look better too, but I do want it seem realistic that the coal and oil lorries going to the fuel dealers will be able to do a 3-point turn at least and not have to reverse out. I'm hoping to put some pumping gear, a little heated tar tank and so on between that spur and the head shunt from the double slip.

I'm building a 1/304 scale card model to see if it all fits in………..you know me, 'never put off until tomorrow something you can find a reason to start next week….' !




Prevaricating Doofer

[user=312]dooferdog[/user] wrote:

I do want it seem realistic that the coal and oil lorries going to the fuel dealers will be able to do a 3-point turn at least and not have to reverse out.

Fair comment but … that is assuming the world is flat and ends at the baseboard edge !! Of coarse if the car park in your mind extended beyond the edge of the base board they could do a 3 point turn !! (thinking out of the box/layout)

But I can see your logic :)

John

RJR's got a point Doug.  As it is, there's asort of diamond section enclosed by trackwork.  Unless you're going to fill in the area uo to rail level, there desn't seem to be any real reason to have the two sidings converging.  You could always stop the oil siding slightly short and have the turning point beyond the tanks/drops.

It looks like a plan that offers plenty of everything - operating potential and (your forte) scenc modelling. thumbs  Is it based on anywhere or totally fictional ?

It's sort of Abingdon by way of Lambourne by way of Barnstaple Victoria Road!

It's sort of GWR BLT because the goods does come off the loop and not a facing point off the approach road. The 'diamond' can be entered by a ramp over the track, but bearing in mind what you have said, that part could be pretty well 'up to the sleepers' anyway as I have to get some tar tanks in there.. 

The original was going to be more 'Abingdon-ish'.  Keep it comin' as it all helps!

The model of the model is filling up and is giving me soome idea of what remaining space I have…




Doug

Doug you really don't want my track planning advice
Re the cola and oil line: I like it as it is. I like the fact the line and its buildings aren't parallel to the edge of the benchwork. I just find it more aesthetically pleasing that way [thinking here about my unimaginative 8ft long scenic divider] I'm sure you'll come up with some quirky little ideas for filling in the odd-shaped gaps.  Quite possibly the real world [whatever that is] would see the sidings parallel. I wouldn't know. But judging by your modelling skills this is potentially a highly individual layout with a multitude of innovative and imaginative features.

Mike


edit:  was going to fix the "cola" error but thought butter of it ;-)

I'm like Mike and would go with it as it is. From your past efforts it should be a very individual layout and small enough to pay attention to even the smallest details.

I'm having a think about the plan, Doug. Planning is one of the things I really enjoy about this hobby. 

Could you explain to me your reason for the double slip and what it is there to feed. Depending on the answer, I may have a suggestion.

just out of interest what software did you use to do the plan with ?

John

Interesting plan, is it based on anywhere?  I'm no expert but I don't quite see why you would need trap points in the locations you have them.  The running lines seem to be protected by the ordinary pointwork already unless I'm missing something.

Is the engine shed/coaling arrangement based on a prototype location? It's the only thing that really doesn't work for me and I would think you would need some trap point arrangements to protect trains in the platform from escaped locos.

Cheers
Dave

Hullo, Everyone,

Thank you for taking the time to look in.

Jeff - I'll have to reveal my 'cunning plan'. ;-) Before the demise of the Wheal Gravy Pasty mines west of Bear's End, the station was not a terminus, and the line travelled west through a bricked up portal on the left between the figures '1' and '2'. The existing tunnel portal is curiously wide, even for standard gauge! Traces of the old track are still partly visible across the goods yard……but do let me know your idea as I do love cunning plans. I'm looking at a carriage shed on the 'up' side of the D' Slip to house the resident 'B' set, there should just be room.


John - I used XtrkCAD, I did rashly promise Bob we could try a 'taster' session and try to get some of us here using it, it really isn't difficult to use at my level and there is an active Yahoo user group dedicated to the system, a cyber chum of mine 'Jack' is an eggspurt, too. Without his initial help I would have wrapped my hand in within 1/2hr of trying it, because it can be the most infuriating  system to use without knowing one or two little moves.


Dave - See my 1130pm post of yesterday.  Re the trap points, the upper one is to isolate goods from passenger lines, as that spur could become either the loco servicing area or the cattle dock depending on the space that is left for realistic infrastructure. Even as an empty spur I believe a diesel rail-car/auto-coach in the bay would require protection from stock etc left in the spur but I could be wrong about that? As drawn, the shed would be under the control of a padlocked rail stop as at Cirencester, key with the Bobby in a small platform mounted cabin. A neater alternative to the 'as drawn' would be to place the engine house on the upper arm with the coal/water to the other side and the buffer stops for the run round loop in the current position of the E' house. Would that work better for you?

Again, thanks for the input, everyone.

Doug

Edited because I had more than one 'Cola' moment…

[user=8]MikeC[/user] wrote:

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edit:  was going to fix the "cola" error but thought butter of it ;-)

Nice looking plan, as Eldavo says, there is no need for trap points anywhere here. I favour things not being parallel - it's visually far more intresting. 'If in doubt, take a siding out' is my motto.

'If in doubt, take a siding out' is my motto.

That sounds like good advice, the 'safety' point question is something that everyone seems to have an opinion on, doesn't it?  At the moment I have two people telling me not to spend any more money, good-oh!  [Oh, I used the work 'spend' and 'money' close together, I need to lie down….:shock:]

Doug