Bachmann LMS - ex MR 1F 0-6-0T

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I got a notification that the subject model, with full cab, is in stock at Hatton's.  The BR versions with half cab were available a couple of days ago.  I've been waiting with anticipation for this.  I also plan to get the LMS half cab version when it comes out.

http://www.bachmann.co.uk/details.php?id=192

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Hi Brossard,

Thanks for the heads up. I was on Hattons website earlier today ordering up a couple of Derby Lightweights and never saw the 1 F's. However, they are on now. They look really good especially the cab detail on the half cabs. I've ordered one BR black with the late crest. Most of my steam loco's are bigger tender loco's and I've been waiting for some smaller 060 shunters.

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Yes, these are very useful locos Toto.  It's all very well having stonking great 4-6-2 express engines but these little 'uns were workhorses.

I got notification a short while ago that mine's on the way.

There was a note on Rails' email that they had sold out of the LMS version.  These may just go like the proverbial hotcakes.  If anyone wants one, don't wait or you may be disappointed.

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That's why I jumped in quick. They look excellent and I did not want to take the chance of missing out. If you hear any news of further releases especially small 060 tanks etc, tip us the wink.

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There are a couple of new things that may interest you:

http://www.ehattons.com/60820/Bachmann_Branchline_39_776_LMS_50ft_Inspection_Saloon_in_BR_maroon/StockDetail.aspx

I've ordered the LMS version.

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https://railsofsheffield.com/br-lner-extra-long-cct-van-a-e1341e-r6683-JJJA25945.aspx

This I didn't order because it's out of my region, but looks a great model.

We've done well for new models this past week.

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Thanks again for the links. The inspection saloon car looks the business but wow …….. some price tag.

The Hornby wagon looks very tempting as well but something would need to be done about that colour. It's a bit plasticky looking. What do you think?
Possibly some heavy weathering would kill the colour and help what is otherwise not a bad wagon. I think Hornby in general are very guilty of some very garish colours on their wagons in particular. Just an opinion of course. I think the plastics could be red plastic as opposed to red painted plastic. It tends to detract from the quality of the colouring and is probably a way of cutting out a further process.  I could be wrong.

The former though is worth thinking about " out of the box "

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Agree about the price, very steep, but the going rate for high end coaches these days.  Fortunately, you only need one for the district manager's train.  The recent porthole coaches from Bachmann are a similar price.  You gets what you pays for.

As for the CCT, yes the finish does look plasticky but, as you say, some weathering would tone all that down.  Hornby's newly tooled stock are generally quite good.  I don't trust their other stuff though.

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Great looking model the 1F is. As Toto has pointed out, the cab detail in the 'half cab' is very good. I would assume the level of detail would be the same in the full cab loco.

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A high level of cab detail has been my experience with the new Bachmann (and Hornby) locos Gary.

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What were the CCT vans used for?
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Well the CCT stands for "Covered Carriage Truck" (as opposed to "Open Carriage Truck") which I think by the late '30s was a bit of a misnomer (who had carriages?).  Typically these things had end doors and a drop down door that could act as a ramp.  It was possible to drive a carriage or motor car into the end from a loading dock.

I've written about two versions of the LMS CCT in my workbench thread.  The early design dates from the '20s and at that time could have been called a CCT.  The next design by LMS was constructed in the mid '30s and called "Motor Car Van".

They were also a good all round "General Utility Van" (GUV), being able to carry just about any goods within the loading limit.

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Went into Antics this morning and had a good look at the new Bachmann Midland 1F. It really is a little beauty. It looks superb and as has been mentioned the cab detail is second to none. Almost seems a pity to put a driver and fireman in it. Anyway I fell in love with it so have one to collect later in the month. I've gone for the one with the early crest and have a feeling it may well be reverted back to Midland Railway livery before too long.

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Mine landed on my doorstep yesterday.  I've ordered a pair of Gaugemaster 6 pin decoders from Hatton's to go in this and the LMS half cab when it comes out.   Only 3GBP postage vs 10.00 from other places!

John


Just want to add that I've taken the loco out of the box.  Lovely!  Wonderful backhead detail.  There's a bag of bits including dummy screw link couplings.

I gave it a run on my test track on DC - it runs smoooooooth straight of the box.  Great value!

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I was on about changing it to a Midland one, but I think they were round-topped fireboxes then and Bachmann has a Belpaire so I will have to settle for LMS as I don't really want to start butchering it.

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Without checking my references I couldn't say when Belpaire boilers were introduced.  It would be a big hack job so, yes, leave it be.  The safety valves would have to backdated as well (and I don't know what else).

I thought London Road Models did a kit, but I can't see it on the site.  http://traders.scalefour.org/LondonRoadModels/ 

I will be converting mine to EM but still haven't finished the proof of concept job I was doing with my Jinty.

I just got my inspection saloon which is a beaut!

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Another reason for getting one is that I have a Jinty or two, a 3f, and a 4f along with a 4-4-0 or two so I have a decent lms/midland stock of locos along with a Royal Scot with a certain amount of coaching/goods stock to go with them so I can run something other than GWR on the layout when it finally gets finished.

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Indeed.  I now have the family: 1F, 2F (00Works), 3F (both tank and tender) & 4F (Bachmann plus a Finecast kit).  I'm focussing on the smaller locos and don't plan any 4-6-2s.

You may have seen a couple of other threads where I'm trying to get some decent coaching stock done.

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I have been following them as I have about half a dozen Midland Clerestory kits to do. They are the Ratio ones and apart from their bogies they do make up ok. I've been toying with the idea of putting some Bachmann LMS ones underneath them. I know it probably won't suit the purist, but at least they are a bit more sturdy than the Ratio offering.

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The Ratio kits are quite good.  As you say, the bogies are the weak point.  I've used MJT compensated brass bogies (Brassmasters, Comet and Bill Bedford also do similar things) and glued the Ratio sides on.  The steps are also weak and I would replace them with strips of brass.  I was never able to get the lining done to my liking.  I did buy a pair that were lined professionally - trouble is the builder didn't take the trouble to bring the construction up to the right standard.  I've been meaning to rebuild them.

Stephen Williams has a great set of books where he discusses the Ratio kits among others:

http://britishrailwaybooks.co.uk/books/ISBN/1874103127.php

http://britishrailwaybooks.co.uk/books/ISBN/1874103615.php

Come to think of it I should get them out and have a reread.

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Pushed the metal whistle on my 1F to straighten it and… snap.. it broke off!  :thud

Phone call to Bachmann… 'sorry, no spares available yet.'

Does anyone know from whom I can obtain a suitable replacement?

Terry

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