Temporary loss of power - Peco point and Seep motor.
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Loco keeps stopping on the frog.
Here is a problem to get you scratching your head. I am using DC and am using Peco points and Seep PM1 motors (the ones with the built-in polarity switch). The wiring is connected via choc-block connectors. On one of the points the loco travels through with no problem, and this may happen two or three times. However, without warning the loco stops dead on the crossing vee (or frog) section of the point. If I remove the loco and apply a track tester, the frog is dead but there is power to the track either side. When the loco stalls, if I throw the point and throw it back again the loco moves off again. I have checked all soldered joints to the point motor and that the wires are firmly connected to the choc-block connectors. All wiring is in accordance with the Seep instructions as far as I am aware. I am not relying on fishplates, dropper wires connect every piece of track to its neighbour. A second point occasionally exhibits the same problem.Any suggestions would be appreciated.
With thanks.
Terry
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Sol is right in saying that SEEPs can be inconsistent. The operating arm of the motor must be dead straight or the switch does not properly engage and the frog polarity if not changed - the switch ends up in a dead spot between contacts. It seems to happen if the operating arm is allowed to revolve and seems to be worse for older, second-hand units. New ones I have are fine but I have had to discard a few bought cheaply in a used condition. I wonder if the arms work loose with time???
You could try rotating the arm of the dodgy switch you have first or, when it is removed, try rotating the arm until you get good contacts than add a drop of cyno to hold it in position.
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SEEP recommend that their point motors are used with a capacitor discharge unit to ensure a complete throw of the solenoid - do you use one?
If so, forgive me
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I am currently using a Gaugemaster 100M controller but do have a Morley controller standing idle. Morley controllers come with a built-in CDU, so I may swop them over and see what happens.
Terry
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I believe the PL 15 offers a double switched option (polarity and indicator lamp)
I've now had 6 years of trouble free use from my various PL 10s and old hands report 30+ yrs use on big layouts doing the UK show circuit.
Adding a CDU made a big difference for me, especially when I switched to an AC input supply with it's higher peak voltage (reasons understood by those above my pay grade)
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Edit - I see that the baseboard is shown as five-eighths of an inch thick.
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Sol - thanks for the link, although a bit on the expensive side. It must be possible to source the required small pieces of rod and tube far cheaper than the example shown.
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