GWR/LMS OO Gauge DCC RR&Co

[user=477]shunter1[/user] wrote:

:)Its possible John, Regarding the sand issue, That the sand was dumped into a store shed.

Then as needed workers would wheelbarrow the sand to the drying shed.

Muscle power was big in those days. Long handle shovels for the ash pit workers, Emptying the pits of ash into wagons.

Anyway that may answer your sand wagon problem, A visit by a couple of wagons every fortnight should keep the stores in stock.:).

Cheers,

Derek.

Glad you approve Derek:thumbs


You are so right about the amount of hands on labour involved. A labourer in the Coaling Station would shovel 15-20 tons every day:shock:

The GWR never used any mechanical means of shifting coal…….one reason being the S Wales Anthracite didnt take kindly to being dropped from a height:lol: ……other railways  used inferior coal………I am told the LMS guys at Granby were really chuffed to have access to GWR coal

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[user=6]Petermac[/user] wrote:

Just bringing myself up to date with Granby John and what wonderful stuff it is. :thumbs:thumbs

The detail around the sheds is brilliant and you're so clever using tricks like the conduit to the bell to hide the join.  Whoever would even have thought about the bell, let alone the conduit ?  The "little people" are busy as bees either polishing locos, pushing barrows - or even leaning on the wall having a crafty fag …………….  There's so much to see and each time, I see a little something I missed first time around.

The catwalk is excellent.  Again, not many modellers would wonder how they were going to clean the skylights although we all know they were there on the 12 inch to the foot version.  Fiddly in the extreme I'd imagine.

I'm looking forward to the next development although, as others have commented, it will be a shame to see some of that bank disappear - I do like it. :cheers

Thank you so much Peter…..much appreciated………………..as you know I take great enjoyment from adding the different layers of detailing and creating little cameos that hopefully catch the eye and capture some sense of life in the late forties.

A way of life that has changed so dramatically……mostly, but not totally, for the better:cheers


ps Only half the bank is going………..I promise……………..I am getting worried someone will slap a preservation order on it:lol:

:):)I like your comment on Welsh coal John.

Even in London as a youngster early 50,s. My Parents would insist on best Welsh coal to be delivered.

The delivery chaps would hoist 1cwt sacks from the lorry trailer and carry them round to the house back and tip them into our coal bunker. The coalmen as we called them hated wet weather as the jute coal sacks would gain a lot of weight when wet.

They wore recut jute sacks fashioned like a hood which covered the top and back of their heads and draped over their shoulder,s, Not very stylish but gave them some protection.:)

Sorry for digressing.

Derek.

 

[user=477]shunter1[/user] wrote:

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The delivery chaps would hoist 1cwt sacks from the lorry trailer and carry them round to the house back and tip them into our coal bunker. The coalmen as we called them hated wet weather as the jute coal sacks would gain a lot of weight when wet.

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But those wet sacks contained far less than the 1cwt of coal Derek - half of it was water ……………….:roll::roll:

Our "coalmen" wore the same designer clothing you talked about but often, they had a shaped metal plate stitched to the back of their blue "engine driver" type jacket to stop the lumps of coal digging into their backs when they carried them.  They were always instructed to tip the bags "gently" so they didn't break up the lumps and create too much "slack".

Sorry as well John - back to your thread ……………………

[user=6]Petermac[/user] wrote:

Our "coalmen" wore the same designer clothing you talked about but often, they had a shaped metal plate stitched to the back of their blue "engine driver" type jacket to stop the lumps of coal digging into their backs when they carried them.  They were always instructed to tip the bags "gently" so they didn't break up the lumps and create too much "slack".

 

What a great memory you have Peter…..I had forgotten all about that.

Afraid I havent posted for a while……mostly been running trains……….however I did have a little diversion:


Regular Granby followers may find this shot is a bit different





Whatever happened to the Roof ?







Temporarily on the floor…….nowhere else I could put it!








The dog has been banned from the railway room and I have spent the last  week walking around very carefully…….one ill advised step back would  not be a good idea.


The reason for all this activity?






Yet another Peco Solenoid failed on a double slip ………fortunately the derailment was of a minor nature ………and  clearly my luck was in…… there was sufficient space to install yet  another replacement surface mounted motor (the one to left of the  visiting LNER Brake).

This could only be done by removing the roof.

While it was off I thought I may as well start adding some detail to the platforms





  Lamp Posts, benches and Luggage trolleys are now fixed in position on the platform not covered by the roof





I may put a passenger or two on the benches but most, I think, would have waited under the roof



………unlike these train spotters who are determined to cop every loco that passes through Granby! 










Hampers of racing pigeons on their way to Penhayle Bay and via Weymouth to Bergerac.






I have a bit of a dilemma populating the covered area of the platforms  because they are mostly obscured by the roof. There are however some  clear view lines where the absence of people is rather obvious.

I am busy painting Dapol/Airfix  figures but they are very  identifiable…….there may be 50 shades of grey but they all look the  same on these figures.

I will eventually invest in some Monty's models to add some much needed variety.

Meantime I am resurrecting these old favourites from Granby I











Not glued down yet……apart from anything else I think they are too  pristine and at the very least should have some adverts on…….I have a  load of signs and posters coming from Trackside Signs.


Given luck the Roof goes safely back tomorrow and I can return to running trains

Hi John,

Some nice touches there. I like the pigeon baskets. Enjoy running your trains.

I'm jealous ……

Cheers

Toto

Yes, I agree with Toto, great work. Have you considered putting those 'cheaper' figures around the platform and disguise them behind much more detailed figures ? It could be an easy and cheap way of populating the platforms, especially the platforms that are not completely visible.

Another question, where did you purchase the pigeon baskets ?

Cheers, Gary.

Thanks Toto and Gary:thumbs

I am planning to mix and match the figures Gary……..its just a bit tricky because I havent ordered the Monty's figures yet (he is out of stock of some I want) and with the roof off it seemed too good an opportunity to miss.

The hampers are over 15 years old…..not sure where I got them from…….they are plaster casts…..like the stuff Harburn Hobbies produce but cruder………………come to think of it Harburn may have hampers in their range.now

Regards

I love the train spotters and the Victorian gents John. :thumbs:thumbs:thumbs

The benches look very good too but I suspect they're GWR - Ratio maybe ? :roll:

I haven't been up to my layout since I got back from UK nearly a week ago …….(spring workload is here :twisted::twisted:),   but I'd be interested in knowing how you locate the roof on yours ? :hmm  I was planning to have dwarf walls on my outer platforms so the roof would sit "inside" them.

[user=6]Petermac[/user] wrote:

I love the train spotters and the Victorian gents John. :thumbs:thumbs:thumbs

The benches look very good too but I suspect they're GWR - Ratio maybe ? :roll:

Thanks Peter…….the Benches are Coopercraft and they are GWR they even have the GWR logo on the "Cast Iron" supports……..I am afraid I was idle and didnt pick that out in Light Stone

   I'd be interested in knowing how you locate the roof on yours ? :hmm  I was planning to have dwarf walls on my outer platforms so the roof would sit "inside" them.  

I will try and take a couple of Photos later………my fitting is very much a retro fit…….its a small dwarf wall on one side and on the other a couple of pieces of card that cant be seen…….it does the job and just provides enough compression to keep the roof within the footprint

There was another guy who is planning to build this and he was going to embed some plastic rod/cocktail sticks in the arch bases that would then fit into tubes in the platform…………I thought that was a rather clever idea.

I would not take the trouble to pick out the seat supports john.  There are so many other items to draw the eye ,that detail  would not be noticed .

Thanks Reg…….I didnt!:lol:    Still felt guilty though:oops:

Hi Peter

I dug out some old photos……Feb 2012……..where did two years go?  And the final module still hasnt been built!:oops:


Here is a shot of the near side with the main wall sitting on a shallow support wall

 




The pillars on the main walls match up with , and fit behind, short stubs on the suppot wall






Here is an overhead shot I took tonight




In addition to the pillar stubs you can see the full length strip that the main wall fits behind



Here is the other side…..with the overhang waiting for the final module




With the roof off …..here is the bit of card that provides compression………there are a couple more but I seem to have lost one:oops:






Its a less than ideal arrangement on this side but I have major platform width constraints…….anyway it seems to work:lol:

Hope this helpsi

Thanks for those shots John - that's the sort of thing I planned on doing but my "dwarf walls" will start at ground level (glued to the back of the platform) and become a sort of "architectural" feature - I hope !!!

I saw those tabs in this shot and wondered if they were part of the roof support system:

Glad it helped Peter

I forgot to mention the glazed ends particularly if reinforced tend to hold/compress  the side walls together…….I only have the one glazed end hence the need for the stub on the far side……..although if I had the space I think I would have a support wall as well

Looking good John.
Don't worry about things taking a bit of time,
Ours is a hobby of leisure! Well most of the time.
regards,
Derek.

G`day John,

                  That`s all looking very good. I particularly like the long shots you`ve done, showing a good chunk of the railway against the backscene. It must be a pleasure to run trains in that room.

Cheers Gormo

Hi John

I thought I recognised that loo.





Have a look at 40.20


BBC Four - The Golden Age of Steam Railways, Branching Out


Ed

Sadly Ed, iplayer isn't available outside UK (although I understand there's a way one can "cheat" and get it ………..:roll:)

That's a shame.

I wasn't really watching it on Sunday as it's been on loads of times. I just happened to look up and thought, I recognise that loo!

Just wondering if that's what John's model was based on.



Ed