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:)Thought that info might cheer you up John.

Oh if you think the white looks odd on just two window frames.

Nothing to stop you painting the store window frames white this was also a common practice.

The MPD may yet be ready over the Christmas break.

regards,

Derek.

Great progress John and the facelift looks good. :thumbs Always helps to have an expert (Derek) on the subject around whilst doing such mods.

Cheers, Gary.

Great stuff: interesting to see reworking an already fine model, certainly the scalescenes slates are an improvement, weathered and much more in keeping with rest of the model.

Just catching up on latest developments. I think you could make the roof vents easily out of plastic card and some plastic rods. The Evergreen range would probably have what you need. This would be more forgiving than making metal ones. I think whatever you decide what actually makes vents look good is getting them all the same height and sitting at the same angle on the roof - a tricky exercise.

Thanks for the comments guys

Heres the completed roof and the framing of the skylights using L profile plastic strip.

Scalescene provide both a red and grey coping stone……I opted for red as being more in keeping with the red brick walls but clearly the roof and particularly the coping stones require a lot of weathering powder






The cut off roof edge has been sorted  but the transition between the office and shed is a little obvious……in addition I had to use 2 different tile prints and I rather suspect I muddled the strips hence the variegated weathering………I am planning a cat walk which hopefully will conceal this

Next the vents

Here is the the original Metcalfe Roof complete with vents


 



I covered the vents with Scalescene paper then following a load of helpful advice…….particularly from my LNWR guru Derek…..I started a production line to add a 6" (2mm) support rim and 4 x 1' (4mm) legs for the cowl





The legs were made from 1mm brass strip from a never to be completed Perseverance LMS Suburban Coach Kit……I cut them to about 10mm bent about 2mm back to support the cowl, used a strip of 4mm card as a guide and super glued the remaining 5mm to the inside 4 corners of the vent…….picky and they are not exactly straight but hopefully they are reasonably close to the sketch Derek so kindly drew for me









I may put some flashing round the base of the vents to conceal the gap






Cruel close up





You can always tell when I am reasonably happy with a project……the last shot is B&W:lol:



 

 

:doublethumbExcellent job on the shed and vents John.

Its great to see an authentic model produced.

Also glad you maintained your sanity :).

The choice of red coping tiles also a good one. A little weathering, Bird droppings and such :lol:.

A seagull perched on a vent :).

Thanks for the work you put in.

regards,

Derek.

Hi John,

The building is looking really excellent. The flashings around the vents would be the icing on the cake I think. Very good indeed.

Cheers for now

Toto

Thanks Guys.............so glad you approve and I sure appreciated all the advice I got.......my original version would have been far clunkier.......good job I took my time and talked it through:thumbs...............now the cat walks!

Absolutely the bees knees John. :pathead:pathead

They look exactly "in scale" and the roof, irrespective of the "slipped" weathering (that only you can see), is a huge improvement on the Metcalfe one.  Flashing would finish them off perfectly.  I see you've put flashing on the brick chimney left centre of this shot and it does make a big difference:



 

Thanks Peter glad you like it.

Just downloaded the Scalescene sheet……..and I am away flashing…..so to speak:roll:

[user=434]John Dew[/user] wrote:

and I am away flashing…..so to speak:roll:

Lovely work as usual John.I like the water stain at the bottom of the brickwork.Please remember we are a family forum.

spurno wrote: 


Pot calling the kettle black, I feel :It's a no no
Or is it not that kind of stain!  :hmm

Jeff

Rainwater stain Jeff.:shock:

:)Hello John.

Now that the winter festivities are more or less out of the way!

What are your next moves with the MPD and siding,s?:).

Best of luck in 2014.

Derek.

Hi John,

Looking forward to seeing your flashes John. ……….oh the childishness of it all. Small minds easily amused and all that.

Seriously, I look forward to seeing the progress.

Cheers

Toto

Derek and Toto……Thanks for asking about Granby.

I finished the vent flashing which was very fiddly and not totally satisfactory and then…………disaster

I was putting some weathering powders on the roof and tilted the building to get a better angle…..the support slipped and the building toppled over breaking off one vent,six cowls and about 10 of the tiny metal supports.

:shock::twisted::shock::twisted:  I was not a happy camper……the air was blue and I have never seen the dog move so fast!


This is a before, after and before shot!

Before and after weathering………………and just before I tilted the building to get a "better" angle




So I had to begin the long slow job of refixing the supports …..much  more difficult to position accurately when the vents are secured to the  roof (well all bar one!)

I was obliged to take it very slowly …..just a couple of supports a day to give the adhesive plenty of time to cure………..so in the meantime I ran a lot of trains and started on the catwalk

This is a rather poor reproduction of a couple of shots I took many years ago at Didcot




I know Didcot is GWR and this is LMS (ex LNWR) but I have seen this feature on many photos so I thought it would be worth trying to replicate………….it will also serve to conceal the roof transitions







3 Strips of 2mm x 1.5mm  Evergreen plastic  with beams glued at 1"  centres . I cut the beams over size  to facilitate glueing and once  secure cut to size.  I cut one side of each beam at an approximation of  60o to mate (sort of) with the roof








Painted and drilled over the beams to accept Ratio stanchions…………these are a really useful bit of kit…..you can use them for all manner of railings and are so much easier to handle than using bits of wire as vertical supports…….its a bit fiddly threading the wire railing through the apertures and keeping the uprights at 90o…………but then I had another look at the Didcot photo and realised I didnt have to be too picky




I found some little brass etchings on the cannibalised coach kit which fitted the beam ends perfectly and could be bent back to line up with the roof.


So here they in position along with all the replaced cowls (albeit at "interesting" angles)











Now I just have to build a couple of Chimneys for the office and boiler house and add some drain pipes and other detailing and its done……………..not before time I might add:twisted:

Big improvement John - great work
:doublethumb
:doublethumb

 

 to put the icing on the cake all you need is some rail-yard junk or some grass to finish off the scene

WOW ! Those Ratio stanchions and your Evergreen planking does look good. All the fiddly work does pay off in the end. :thumbs

Can you tell me, is the Ratio stanchions a plastic mould or metal ?

Cheers, Gary.

Thanks Guys:thumbs

Detailing and Junk to come Dave…………maybe with a Jinty posing in the foreground (cant do a Pannier its the LMS Shed:lol:)


Gary: they are Plastic  (Sorry should have mentioned it) I think you get 5 sprues each with 5 Stanchions per set for about 4GBP

          There are double rail in black or a shorter (too short?) single rail in white….but you can paint them of course

[user=434]John Dew[/user] wrote:

Thanks Guys:thumbs

Detailing and Junk to come Dave…………maybe with a Jinty posing in the foreground (cant do a Pannier its the LMS Shed:lol:)

 

You never know John - those pesky panniers have been known to make  the most of the camera angle to get into a shot :twisted: