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I'm almost as excited as you are with this corner John. :Happy  It sounds as if it's going to a magnificent scene with all those warehouses and cranes etc.  Truly dark satanic mills …….  (I still recall with some delight, your "canal" development :thumbs)

Geoff has touched on it in the previous post,  but I too wonder about access. :roll:  Given a base of 3'6" and a 5'6" side, that's some triangle to lift in and out.  Also, from the shot of where it will sit, I wonder if bananas are your favourite fruit ………:roll:  You don't strike me as the type of guy to have particularly long arms so how will you actually reach what's in there ? :hmm  Perhaps RR & Co will do it all for you ………………..

It was also great to see a sort of panorama of Granby in those shots. :cheers

I'm watching.  :cool:

It will be fixed permanently…….I find it much easier to lay the track and wire it off site……I am far too old to spend unnescessary time under the baseboards…….in this case I had to anyway because the main line is on a slight incline into Granby and the goods yard will be flat

[user=6]Petermac[/user] wrote:

Geoff has touched on it in the previous post,  but I too wonder about access. :roll:  Given a base of 3'6" and a 5'6" side, that's some triangle to lift in and out.  Also, from the shot of where it will sit, I wonder if bananas are your favourite fruit ………:roll:  You don't strike me as the type of guy to have particularly long arms so how will you actually reach what's in there ? :hmm  Perhaps RR & Co will do it all for you ………………..

It is an issue……I can just reach the far corner by standing on a small foot stool and leaning on the wall with one hand and demolishing sundry signals. Long arms I do have…..the army could never find the right battledress for me…………and bananas we will have in abundance……….Fyffes bananas will be unloaded regularly into the fruit warehouse straight from Liverpool docks.

Having simplified shunting sequences was, in part, a recognition of the access issue…….hopefully RR&Co will cope……using 4-6 wagon modules means the uncoupling magnets will be relatively  near at hand as will the Locos……………..says he optimistically!

Great atmosphere with those pictures especially the terraced houses.

Phil

I havent posted here while I concentrated on building the Warehouses  which are intended to be the focal point of this corner module. The  construction was covered in a separate thread.

So here a month or so later are the the two warehouses in position on the module baseboard.





So the next job is to pave the yard……..the photographs I am using as  source material all show fully paved (well granite setts) yards so  despite a number of reservations (based on previous unhappy experiences)  that is what I will attempt to do.

Wagon turntables were a key element in these photographs. 12' diameter  wood planked circles enabled vans to be turned off the main siding  without the use of points…….they were ideal for use in confined  areas. This is the plan for the Chester Rd Depot:




Each card circle represents a turntable……thus a van in siding 1  could be transferred to sidings 2 or 3 or enter the Bonded Warehouse  which is set at right angles.

In real life once the rail locks were released the van would be pulled  round by ropes with the aid of capstans which were powered by  electricity, steam or horses. Mine, I am afraid, will only be cosmetic.

Installing Turntables created a lot of additional variables in terms of  paving the yard (and warehouse floor) and it took me a while to work out  what would be the best datum point.

In the end I decided to prepare the turntables…..install one and then start progressively infilling


Having cut out the circles (they are a nominal 2" diameter) I scribed parallel cuts to suggest planks



The plastic extrusions at the top is a single turntable that I got with  the canal warehouse from Langley. Although I painted it up I never used  it….it seemed a bit crude……no doubt my home made efforts will be  crude but hopefully uniformly so!

Painted the circles with Watercolours to represent worn hardworked timber



Cut them into the three components……..the extrusion bottom left is  plastic channel painted metallic grey that I am using to suggest the  circular rail within which the turntable revolved

I have to say cutting and glueing this in a curve was a total  pain……seemed to take forever…….the dog was quite shocked at the  language! Hopefully the next two will be quicker.

Having done it finally I then found I had clearance  problems……although locos wont go down this far (in real life their  weight precluded them from crossing Wagon TT)……I do intend to use  the sidings operationally…….so I had to do a lot of hacking about

Once the the turntable was finally sort of ok I could construct the  short right angle line into the bonded warehouse and start fitting the  check rails (old code 75) and infilling

This was the scene at close of play (????) tonight




And a cruel close up……….fortunately once in position only a giraffe could see this





Less than perfect and a very uneconomic use of time but hopefully practice (I have two more to do) will make perfect.

Do you mean to say John, that the dog has never heard you say
" bother"
" gosh- what a mistake I made?"
etc before?

The scene is coming a treat!

That last photo shows off what you are creating wonderfully, John. It looks good to me close up. It will certainly look excellent from normal viewing distances.

That first piece of inlay looks just the job. One thing to share in case you haven't thought about it. If you intend having the insides of the running rails and the outside of the check rails painted a rust or other colour, I would do it before you inlay. Something I learnt the hard way!

This is coming on a treat John and will look the biz when ballasted etc, have you thought about what fine detail you will be adding?

Look forward to some more progress pics, but please, if possible higher the f stop to get more depth of field;-)

 

Phil

[user=434]John Dew[/user] wrote:

……………………………………………………..but hopefully practice (I have two more to do) will make perfect.

I'm sorry John but a correction, you have 6 more to do…… I need 4 for Wallgate. They look great, can't quite tell but have you half cut through the rails at either side of the turntable ? If not is it worth trying with a slitting saw down to the base of the rail?

Cheers

Kevan

P.S. No hurry on my 4 :thumbs

[user=422]Geoff R[/user] wrote:

That last photo shows off what you are creating wonderfully, John. It looks good to me close up. It will certainly look excellent from normal viewing distances.

That first piece of inlay looks just the job. One thing to share in case you haven't thought about it. If you intend having the insides of the running rails and the outside of the check rails painted a rust or other colour, I would do it before you inlay. Something I learnt the hard way!

Thanks Geoff.

Like you I learned the hard way about painting the rails ahead of time………and sadly I am still learning…….now before I put the adhesive on an inlay I "think of Geoff"


Phil.c wrote:

This  is coming on a treat John and will look the biz when ballasted etc,  have you thought about what fine detail you will be adding?

Look forward to some more progress pics, but please, if possible higher the f stop to get more depth of field;-)

 

Phil

Thanks Phil I am working on the rail locks for the turntables…..I have fixed the centre boss………I think thumb tacks will work for capstans but ideally I would like something smaller for bollards…….knightwing point levers and so on.

I am afraid I am guilty , all too often, of point and shoot. When finished I promise I will set uo the tripod and remote and attempt something a little crisper…….though not, I am afraid, to your standard!


katwigan wrote:

John Dew wrote:

……………………………………………………..but hopefully practice (I have two more to do) will make perfect.

I'm sorry John but a correction, you have 6 more to do…… I need 4  for Wallgate. They look great, can't quite tell but have you half cut  through the rails at either side of the turntable ? If not is it worth  trying with a slitting saw down to the base of the rail?

Cheers

Kevan

P.S. No hurry on my 4 :thumbs

No problem Kevan……happy to oblige……..these are cutom designed and have to be fitted on site……..the good news…….they are FREE! ……..the less than good news the client re imburses my travel expenses…….when do you want me to come?

No problem Kevan……happy to oblige……..these are cutom designed and have to be fitted on site……..the good news…….they are FREE! ……..the less than good news the client re imburses my travel expenses…….when do you want me to come?




Damn isn't that always the way, I 've just read about the Oz government outlawing people coming into the country to donate their services, something to do with the volunteers act 1854 or something. Darn, now I'll have to change the ticket.:sad:

BTW the Warehouse(s) and associated look brilliant,but then so does the rest of the layout.

:cheers

Kevan

Edit , where did the blue shading and John Dew Wrote go ?

Smashing job, John.

[user=394]ddolfelin[/user] wrote:

Smashing job, John.

Woteesez!  …for capstans  I once had the idea of adapting air-gun pellets [the lead ones] as they are a sort of capastanny shape…any good?  Maybe 0.177 for little capastans, and 0.22 for big capstans and , and, Nurse! Quick, my tablets…..

 

Doug

Hi John, I have to say I've not been as active as I should have been over the past few months, so lots of catching up to do.  Those warehouses look superb in that corner and the combination of internal platforms and wagon turntables really give it the look of a large and busy goods facility.  

You have every right to be proud of your work.  It looks terrific…..

The air gun pellets is a good idea Doofer, excellent capstan shapes. I think so anyway.

 [user=2]Robert[/user] wrote:

The air gun pellets is a good idea Doofer, excellent capstan shapes. I think so anyway.

Ah but I think you have to be over 18 to buy them Bob so John wouldn't qualify ……………maybe his Dad could get some for him ………:thumbs:cheers  It's the "waisted" slugs he'll need to buy John - not the ones that look like a medieval helmet ………;-)

As longer as there isnt an upper age limit I am safe...............just have to find an airgun shop in Vancouver........great idea Doug....thank you!

Resist the temptation to shoot the little figures, John.

[user=394]ddolfelin[/user] wrote:

Resist the temptation to shoot the little figures, John.

……….maybe he has some old Airfix model aeroplanes to shoot at………..hung from string in a garden tree….ahh! Memories.

 

Doug

If you can't get air pellets, I can get you some .700 bullets, maybe a little over sized though :lol: