GWR/LMS OO Gauge DCC RR&Co

The lamps on the front of the Pub are interesting, John.
I've not noticed them from normal sources.
Are they off a model ship?

Congratulations on producing very absorbing scenes.

[user=394]ddolfelin[/user] wrote:

The lamps on the front of the Pub are interesting, John.
I've not noticed them from normal sources.
Are they off a model ship?

Congratulations on producing very absorbing scenes.

Woteesed.

SWMBO likes the b/w one especially.

Doug

There are some interesting wall lamps on the Scalelink web site .

Just enter Wall Lamp in the search box - that firm is usually my first port of call for anything a bit out the ordinary for lineside accessories.

www.scalelink.co.uk 

What John? No outside tables?

Thanks, Richard.
They are nice but in white metal which I generally try to stay clear of.

 

 The detail in and around the arches/tunnel areas is fantastic John, A lot of hard work has obviously gone into it.

Is the layout DCC ??????? If it is you have the wiring all wrong mate, there is only supposed to be  TWO

This is going to be one hell of a layout, well done :doublethumb

Thanks for all the nice comments guys :cheers……………answering the specifics:

[user=394]ddolfelin[/user] wrote:

The lamps on the front of the Pub are interesting, John.
I've not noticed them from normal sources.
Are they off a model ship?

The Pub is made from a Langley vacuum moulded low relief plastic shell………with it comes a brass etching sheet and the lamps were on that. The etching can be bought separately

[user=19]Marty[/user] wrote:

What John? No outside tables?

 You would get a bit mucky with those coal trains rumbling by!

 

[user=98]Kevr[/user] wrote:

 Is the layout DCC ??????? If it is you have the wiring all wrong mate, there is only supposed to be  TWO

Yes……my first foray into DCC……..two wires is an urban myth I think, although in my case the wiring is increased because of DCC point control and occupancy detection

Kind Regards to all

 

The warehouse is now completed……it took me a lot longer to convert than I expected

You may recall that this was the original start point.




Another Vacuum Moulded kit from Langley…..in addition to the former you get a load of white metal fittings for window frames etc. I checked the price yesterday and it mist have increased in price by about 60% since I bought it 10+ years ago. I have always like the model……..on Granby II it was tucked away on the back scene and I always intended it to be centre stage on the canal in Granby III

The problem, as I exposed some months ago, it is ultral low relief 





Hence the delay in completion……..

I built new card side walls, clad them with Slaters plasticard and overlaid them on the existing short side walls……….I concealed the joins with Wills Corner Stones……..this worked reasonably well although, as you will see, there is a noticeable colour difference




The roof was a bigger problem. If I extended the existing roof line the building would be far too tall so I created a second roof at a lower pitch using Slaters Tiles. I then clad all the faces of the original roof with the tiles from the same sheet. Unfortunately the slaters sheets were not long enough to cover the entire roof so there are a couple of joins which I have attempted to conceal with convenient growths of Moss 



From a distance I think it has worked reasonably well





The detailing is now completed




This shot also shows the mooring rings and bollards quite well. The sacks are from Harburn Hobbies. The Yard Lamp is from Mikes Models

The Gibbet Crane attached to the Warehouse is from Langley (as are all the figures)……. the second crane is from Ratio…….I am a little ambivalent about this one…….if nothing else it exposes the major design flaw in this project. The warehouse should really have been closer to the quayside so the first crane could unload the narrow boats but it would have been far too dominant or, alternatively, I should have run a rail line in front of the warehouse with a wagon turntable……but at the time I didnt think it was practicable……so the second crane is the compromise.

Last time I showed the warehouse some guys commented about Health and Safety…….so I thought I should at least show the warehouse man has a hand rail




You may well be wondering about the back of this structure………….you will not be disappointed…….the Dew signature item has been retained







This is, for once, not idleness but genuine forward planning…….the plan is to extend the back into a rail goods shed for the sidings you saw a few weeks ago




Thus I will have rail access albeit at the upper level and can justify retaining the GWR paint treatment………however this will have to wait until the main line is finished

When I first started this project Richard (Wheeltapper) suggested that this canal would have probably been owned by the Shropshire Union Canal Co who were taken over by the GWR so I do have a reasonably credible story!

This is an appropriate time to acknowledge the astonishing amount of help and advice I have had from Richard on this project……..couldnt have done it without you Richard………….thank you so much:thumbs:thumbs:thumbs

I am honoured that, despite my previous hobby as a Rally Driver (and the life belts), Richard allowed me to call the project "Richard's Wharf".

Its a curious feeling drawing a line under a project that has taken up virtually all of my modelling time for the last six months

There is certainly a big difference between this




and this




This is a Dean Goods (Tender Drive and probably the most expensive loco in my collection……but thats another story) drifting down the branch with the weekly Cattle train

Yet another train of empties trundles over the Coal Line and in the back ground one can see an LMS express on the joint main line…….the promise of things to come

To finish another Black and White shot…………….hope Mrs Dooferdog approves :lol:




Regards from Vancouver

 

A beautiful facade saved.  Well done, John.  :thumbs  There's so much going on in that layout!

That looks Magic John.:thumbs

Absolutely fascinating, John.

Thanks for the info. about the lamps.
By coincidence, I saw the kit for them yesterday!

John

Thank you so very much for the glowing thanks for the advice which it has been an absolute pleasure to give as you have done such a marvellous job on the  locks and wharf . I only wish my own modelling skills  were good enough  in some small way to emulate the  patient perseverence and sheer determination to make such a fantastic job of this project  that you have shown over the last six months.

The crowning accolade is of course the naming of the wharf  and I have to say thats probably one of the greatest compliments I have ever been paid in railway modelling.

I look forward to seeing further developments on what in my opinion is turning into  one of the finest layouts on the forum,

Thanks again and very very very well done!

 

 

From a distance I think it has worked reasonably well

Masterful understatement of the month…………

[Thank you, v. much appreciated, Mme Doofer]


Doug


PS  Re the distance from the canal/unloading etc, you are right, two cranes looka smidgen wrong….

Perhaps a longer term solution could be a little length of sunken/low track from the natural drop of the wharf-side crane to below the warehouse hoist and a flat bed 'trolley' ready to do the transferring?

The wooden one looks best in that situation too…….[IMHO]

Doug

I thought I had seen something like it in prototype, Wigan Pier!

See the 5th  picture down……


Wigan Pier - Leeds and Liverpool Canal





This is the sort of thing I mean, any good?

Doug

Thanks again guys for all the nice comments…….particularly yours Richard……you have me blushing with embarrassment!

And there was I thinking it was finished and Doug confirms my lingering doubts

[user=312]dooferdog[/user] wrote:

PS  Re the distance from the canal/unloading etc, you are right, two cranes looka smidgen wrong….

Perhaps a longer term solution could be a little length of sunken/low track from the natural drop of the wharf-side crane to below the warehouse hoist and a flat bed 'trolley' ready to do the transferring?

Doug

You are right of course but the thought of hacking up all those Wills sheets horrifies me

The wooden one looks best in that situation too…….[IMHO] 

They are both intended to be wood although the wharfside one is Plastic and the Warehouse one white metal. They were painted at different times and the warehouse one is slightly misaligned……I rather prefer the warehouse one but maybe I can make a vertical support post and relocate it in place of the Ratio one? 

I thought I had seen something like it in prototype, Wigan Pier!






This is the sort of thing I mean, any good?

 

Brilliant!!

Thank you for digging this….. out much appreciated……………you have got me thinking…..I could use a Coopercraft platform trolley without the handle which just by chance I have on hand!

I wonder if I could create the illusion of inset rail by laying some ultra thin ultra narrow plastic strips…….I will have a go…..after all it is being viewed from a distance………..there are actually two hoists so I will need two sets of rails and then I could resite one crane between them 

Conceptually the problem is solved now I just have to put it into practice :roll:

Kind Regards

 

I wonder if I could create the illusion of inset rail by laying some ultra thin ultra narrow plastic strips…….I will have a go…..after all it is being viewed from a distance………..there are actually two hoists so I will need two sets of rails and then I could resite one crane between them

John, I have every sympathy with you dreading taking up the sheets, but having just had a similar thought re Peters trams……

perhaps sourcing some bullhead rail, of the sort the P4 chaps to hand build track, and laying it on its side from the wharf to the hoists in a groove you could scratch out, or just on the surface, and make some putty type stuff to show where vehicles have been helped over with little ramps…..the wheels of the Dew-Doofer Transporterer would roll in the side grooves of   the rail…


Doug

A word from Dooferdog and I sprang into action……….I just delayed replying until he was back on line

I repositioned the right hand hoist to the inside of the loading doors…….you can see the patch marks on the shot below 

Then from the base of the two hoists I ran two thin parallell strips of plasticard to simulated rails for the Trolleys

 




The strips ran over indentations in the setts but it would be better if eventually I carved proper grooves

I removed the yard lamp…..I thought it too tall and inserted two platform lights…..currently on plasticene

One set of sacks was removed and a single crane mounted temporarily between the "tracks"  



The problem is that this crane (Ratio) is pretty flimsy and the jib is obviously not quite long enough to span the two tracks

The other crane is more substantial and has a longer jib once the jib is parallell with the ground:roll:




But as you can see both above and below it is designed to be mounted on a wall



So my plan…..which is now almost complete is to fabricate a wooden upright suitably reinforced with ironwork from which to mount the crane




Doug I think your suggestion was great…..thank you…….the rails are just about ok from a distance and I think the quayside still looks busy but in a less cluttered way

Comments/feedback much appreciated before I remove the plasticene  

Elegant, John.  I love the reflections in the water.  :thumbs

very neat,I think it looks just right,
:doublethumb:lol::lol::cool: