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Very interesting research John - at least you'll know you still need more locos ………………………..

Are there pictures of Granby and how do they compare with your own interpretation ?

It seems our partners still don't understand us - Liz is similarly unenthusiastic when I suggest she learns more about a certain Mr Gresley ……………………..

What a great book John and I can see how it has become essential reading in your household. You brought a big smile to my face when I saw the number of panniers on roster. 

 Say no more, but we need more panniers!!!

Bill
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[user=1814]Longchap[/user] wrote:

What a great book John and I can see how it has become essential reading in your household. You brought a big smile to my face when I saw the number of panniers on roster. 

Say no more, but we need more panniers!!!

Bill
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The pannier ratio was a bit of an eye opener…..although thinking how many were made….maybe not :lol:

I have always been a bit defensive about 7 panniers (I actually have more but dont count "show pieces" ie non working) but they are all gainfully employed………I suppose I could justify a wartime Black one, just announced by Bachmann, but its hardly a bargain at 97 pounds :shock:

Two large prairies and a mogul will make a pretty massive dent in Granby's purchasing budget…..and thats before the suburban coaches.

Cheers
 

A simple question John - when you have multiple locos, or indeed multitudes in the case of panniers, how do you recognise which is which ?

I keep looking at those I could duplicate but, unless I can read the number, I'd have little idea which was which until it moved ………………. :hmm  I have in fact, 2 identical 2 car DMU sets but only know which is which when I call it up ………… :oops:

[user=6]Petermac[/user] wrote:

Very interesting research John - at least you'll know you still need more locos ………………………..

Are there pictures of Granby and how do they compare with your own interpretation ?

It seems our partners still don't understand us - Liz is similarly unenthusiastic when I suggest she learns more about a certain Mr Gresley ……………………..

You have always been very complimentary about the realism of Granby but pictures in the book would be a bit of a stretch.

However some of the buildings do look ok……I built the Coaling Stage and Sandhouse from photos I took at Didcot and similar structures can be seen throughout the book which was quite gratifying.

The anomaly on Granby is the half roundhouse……there is one, fairly similar, at St Blazey built by a company absorbed by the GWR………having seen the book I should have built an enclosed round house with a removeable or transparent roof……it would actually fit in the space I have…….but its definitely too late now!

Cheers

John 

 

[user=6]Petermac[/user] wrote:

A simple question John - when you have multiple locos, or indeed multitudes in the case of panniers, how do you recognise which is which ?

I keep looking at those I could duplicate but, unless I can read the number, I'd have little idea which was which until it moved ………………. :hmm  I have in fact, 2 identical 2 car DMU sets but only know which is which when I call it up ………… :oops:

Thats a good question.

I dont have too much trouble with the panniers because they mostly have different jobs and head lamp codes

With RR&Co the locos have to be initially allocated to blocks and it obviously makes sense to maintain that ….so that helps. Where I have two locos with the same head code I have tried to weather them a bit differently

 Having said all that….. there are occasions when I key in a number and nothing happens to  the intended loco and then I hear a strange clicking sound in the  storage yard as the actual entered loco tries to batter its way out :oops:  At least now with hearing aids I can actually hear it! You can imagine the chaos previously.

Cheers

John

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[user=434]John Dew[/user] wrote

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Having said all that….. there are occasions when I key in a number and nothing happens to  the intended loco and then I hear a strange clicking sound in the  storage yard as the actual entered loco tries to batter its way out :oops:  At least now with hearing aids I can actually hear it! You can imagine the chaos previously.

Cheers

John

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Ha ha - I'm so pleased it's not just me.

Duplicating some of mine could therefore, introduce me to a whole new skill - that of weathering ………………….. :hmm

[user=6]Petermac[/user] wrote:

[user=434]John Dew[/user] wrote

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Having said all that….. there are occasions when I key in a number and nothing happens to  the intended loco and then I hear a strange clicking sound in the  storage yard as the actual entered loco tries to batter its way out :oops:  At least now with hearing aids I can actually hear it! You can imagine the chaos previously.

Cheers

John

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Ha ha - I'm so pleased it's not just me.

Duplicating some of mine could therefore, introduce me to a whole new skill - that of weathering ………………….. :hmm

Yes, I thought your question Peter, was a good one too, although was thinking about stock allocations, rather than routes for differentiation.

So with your enchanched hearing now John, dare I suggest that sound locos might give you a further heads up of imminent danger on the tracks ahead?

Now that really would put a crater in the budget!

On a final thought, with panniers getting pretty much everywhere in the 50 and 60s, there's justification for everyone to run some!

Bill  :lol:

(Longchap dives for cover)

[user=434]John Dew[/user] wrote:

[user=540]gdaysydney[/user] wrote:

[user=434]John Dew[/user] wrote:

Hi Dave
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Change of subject …..could you remind me of the type of resistor you used on your resistive ….I think I need to install some of those micro ones thatyou were using

Best wishes

John

Hi John,

I have been using 10k micro resistors   -  I still have a lot of wagons to go and I have discovered that I need to put an extra loop through by DB20 detectors  :roll:

I dont follow the last comment about extra loop and DB20 detectors?

Could I ask where you got your resistors……they seem inexpensive but the min qty I have seen is far too high….it would last me to 2030……and I doubt that I will be around then:sad:

Cheers

Hi John,
Sorry for any confusion - DB20 detectors are ones that I use -  NCE  :roll:

I purchased the micro resistors on line about 5 years ago  ( one of those many projects that start/ stop )
How many do you need ?  I cant put my hand on them at the moment  but PM me with your mailing address and I'll send them to you.

On the NCE forum, when I was having problems getting the detectors to trigger when wagons only were in the blocks I received lots of good advice including using "normal" resistors to see what resistance was needed by laying them across the tracks to see if the detector would trigger.
The other advice was to try   Trix/ Minitrix 66882                Resistance Paint for Axles
I was unable tot get my hands on it but it may be something worth trying if you can.


best wishes






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[user=1814]Longchap[/user] wrote:

So with your enchanched hearing now John, dare I suggest that sound locos might give you a further heads up of imminent danger on the tracks ahead?

Now that really would put a crater in the budget!

Bill  :lol:

(Longchap dives for cover)

  :It's a no no :It's a no no :Red Card

[user=540]gdaysydney[/user] wrote:

[user=434]John Dew[/user] wrote:

[user=540]gdaysydney[/user] wrote:

[user=434]John Dew[/user] wrote:

Hi Dave
I
Change of subject …..could you remind me of the type of resistor you used on your resistive ….I think I need to install some of those micro ones thatyou were using

Best wishes

John

Hi John,

I have been using 10k micro resistors   -  I still have a lot of wagons to go and I have discovered that I need to put an extra loop through by DB20 detectors  :roll:

I dont follow the last comment about extra loop and DB20 detectors?

Could I ask where you got your resistors……they seem inexpensive but the min qty I have seen is far too high….it would last me to 2030……and I doubt that I will be around then:sad:

Cheers

Hi John,
Sorry for any confusion - DB20 detectors are ones that I use -  NCE  :roll:

I purchased the micro resistors on line about 5 years ago  ( one of those many projects that start/ stop )
How many do you need ?  I cant put my hand on them at the moment  but PM me with your mailing address and I'll send them to you.

On the NCE forum, when I was having problems getting the detectors to trigger when wagons only were in the blocks I received lots of good advice including using "normal" resistors to see what resistance was needed by laying them across the tracks to see if the detector would trigger.
The other advice was to try   Trix/ Minitrix 66882                Resistance Paint for Axles
I was unable tot get my hands on it but it may be something worth trying if you can.


best wishes






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Thats very kind of you Dave but I have just found some in Hong Kong…. reasonable quantities and free shipping so I will see how that works out.

Its playing havoc on some schedules where I am backing carriages into sidings and the rear coach on some rakes is detected and not on others!

Cheers

John

Camarthen Shed please John.  :lol:
Marty

[user=19]Marty[/user] wrote:

Camarthen Shed please John.  :lol:
Marty

No problem Marty:


4-6-0.    4910,4915,4922,4981,4984,5963,5972,6818,6824,6919

2-8-0.    3004,3006,3009,3010,3011,3015

2-6-0.     5339,6310,6331,6344,6367

0-6-0.     2216, 2217, 2236,2254,2271,2272,2284,2291,2409,2411,2431,2474

2-8-0T.    4223,4266,5207,5231

2-4-0T.     3592

0-6-0PT 1903,2047,2056,2069,2111,7400,7401,7407,7419,7425

0-4-2T.    1472

D.R.C.      13.   15


Quite the contrast!

John

Hi John,

Could you provided the loco numbers for Newton Abbott shed?

Regards Connor

Just a modest little shed then?:roll: :lol:
4-6-0

1001,1018,4012,4016,4077,4098,4099,4983,5011,5028,5034,5047,5058,5063,5071,5073,
5079,5094,6018,6024,6027,6028,6813,6814,6822,6829,6934,7000

4-4-0

3341,3383,3400,3407,3430

2-6-0

5350,5391,6345

2-8-2T

7200,7220,7250

2-6-2T

4109,4133,4405,4526,4547,4582,4587,5108,5113,5132,5142,5150,5153,5157,5505,5530,
5552,5557

0-6-0 PT 

2785,5798,7427,9623,9633,9717

0-6-0 ST

1362

0-4-2 T

1427,1439,1466,1470.

2-8-0

77001,(90102),77210,(90186)77214,(90188)77241(90205.   WD #s in brackets


Hopefully I got everything right….have fun

Cheers

John

Hi John I'll carry on the discussion about the FY of mine here if that's OK I found after building several layouts a FY needed to be the same size as the visible side of the layout 
and take the peco loco carrying cradles each end for loco change, I rotate the loco's for wheel cleaning I try and keep most trains as a fixed set kept in seperate boxes a quick look at the wagon/coach wheels to check for crud I can take the whole train off and replace it so a set amount of trains are always availible for the layout any more than 3 train off for cleaning the I set about doing them that way I have enough trains to run a session

Any way that is enough of mine what about those delectable non corridor Collett's to keep the cost down I'm only replacing 6 of them I found they were always filling a road in the FY so  2 have been converted to K40 full brakes that leaves me with 8 60' bow ended coaches to find new sides on the Comet Coaches website 2 have been ear- marked for restrauant cars H38's, 2 Brake composites E128's, 2 all first A20's and 2 of them I'm hoping will go to a new home with a friend who's just starting out in the hobby.
Bob      

Morning Bob

My fiddleyard represents about a third of the viewing space. Apart from not having enough storage space…..I will come back to that in a moment…….its badly designed in that the space between the tracks is barely 6' so that actual fiddling is impracticable and the entry exit points from the up to down lines were badly thought out……..I aint building a new one so over time I have learned to live with and developed a number of work arounds.

I keep my stock in clearly defined sets (have to for computor control) but until your post and another one elsewhere I hadnt thought of keeping surplus sets in their defined formation off the layout………makes a ton of sense both from a storage and maintenance aspect……….thank you for the idea

The Hornby non corridor coach announcement was great news for Granby………and they are going to be here so quickly…..February just a couple of weeks away…..although for me that means mid March. I run a fairly intensive commutor service to the North (ie right hand side of station) to Chester, Birkenhead and Warrington using B Sets, Autotrain sandwich and LMS non corridor but very little to the South so I am busy devising an out and back service to Oswestry using a right mixture of locos for now until the large prairies hopefully arrive in the fall

Best wishes

John

Time for some loco photos

I spent most of my modelling time last week working on Passenger train operation.
The branch trains to the North have well established routines but the longer expresses which start and finish in the storage yard are basically just roundy roundy circuits……..fine for watching the trains go by but not exactly imaginative.

I want to bring the shed routines into play and also develop some out and back routines involving the second (slightly quirky) turntable in the storage yard. In addition, of course, I need to accommodate the imminent arrival of a four car set of Collett non-corridor coaches  ………….more on this another time


Meantime to start here is the station with everything back in place. With taxis parked optimistically outside the non existent Station Hotel. 




9003 "Dukedog" approaching Granby viaduct with a train of Collett Bow end corridor stock



This is my Cambrian special……which I already run out and back. Currently the storage siding is labelled Phwelli but I am not convinced this would have been the terminus for a regular service from Chester/Wrexham. I guess I have to root around in the timetables I downloaded……..unless someone already knows the answer.


The express approaching on the Up line is the 9.35 am Birkenhead Woodside-Paddington  (I am quite happy with this one!)………this routine is just a circuit and one I hope to convert to out and back with loco exchanges in the storage yard and Granby .

The train is hauled by 1029 County of Worcester. I have had this loco for about 20 years and sadly this was its last appearance in working mode. I have always had a soft spot for it but reluctantly came to the conclusion that its performance just wasnt consistent enough to be involved in loco exchanges……..its in the display case (grave yard) now  



Conversely the Dukedog about which I initially had reservations has turned out to be super reliable. It shares the Cambrian duties with two very elderly but equally reliable Manors





For once I dont have to apologise for a cruel close up






The background is a bit obtrusive but otherwise I quite like that shot


Black and white to finish and then back to getting the trains running on time  :lol:





Regards from Vancouver

Intersting to see some else happy with the Manors apart from the cab roof rivets need a piece of sand paper on them they are fine my 4 run perfectly they all have the latest chassis with the flywheel, I find the armchair modeller wanting all their loco's new withinthe past 2-3 years they are unfortunate not to be able to do a bit of handywork on their models these "B" sets which I bought my first one 30 + years ago are a long time coming.
Enjoy your railway I do. Bob

Cracking shot of the Dukedog (weathered, crewed, coaled AND lamped!!) John.
Marty