GWR/LMS OO Gauge DCC RR&Co

Haha John,

I'm on their site right now!

Bill

I'm very impressed by your new loco John - even if it is the wrong colour, logo, area and everything else ………… :lol: :lol: :lol:

I was wondering what you used to fit the Brassmasters etches to plastic - I'm assuming the plastic is smooth and painted.  :roll:  Does superglue work in such situations ?

[user=6]Petermac[/user] wrote:

I'm very impressed by your new loco John - even if it is the wrong colour, logo, area and everything else ………… :lol: :lol: :lol:

I was wondering what you used to fit the Brassmasters etches to plastic - I'm assuming the plastic is smooth and painted.  :roll:  Does superglue work in such situations ?

Hi Peter

Thanks for the compliments about the loco…after all it is green. :lol:

I use a product called Microbond (cyano-acrylate?) for glueing just about everything….. I guess it is similar to superglue……not sure if its available outside North America but I can thoroughly recommend it

Best wishes

John 

The absence of an update does not necessarily indicate lack of activity on Granby. In fact, in this case, quite the reverse.

 The recent RR&Co upgrade has a number of great features…… more accurate braking and stopping plus a new feature where a loco can be instructed to move back or forward a specified distance (1/2 inch) at crawl speed……..it makes coupling and uncoupling with a Kadee shuffle so smooth its almost imperceptible……but it does take a while to set up  :roll:.

In addition to all this "testing"  I have been working on the the new Dean Goods and almost completed installing the Brassmasters cab back in the 72xx………neither without incidents of course……I think its best that I recount them in separate posts.

So here is a brief brewery update. My thanks to everyone who proffered advice or gave me some very useful links to breweries.

 Hopefully my model will be finished well before 2019 when we will be visiting the UK. Nevertheless I have already started negotiating with Mrs D about some essential visits :lol:…….why would one visit Stratford on Avon, for instance, without first going here?




Hook Norton Brewery

Brilliant site with a really useful schematic of the brewery process. https://www.hooky.co.uk/our-beers/brewing-process.ashx

Certainly made me rethink some of my ideas.

I think I can build something that might bear some resemblance to Hook Norton. I will use the Scalescene Warehouse kit for the brick built lower levels…….the roof elements with all those gable windows and ventilation units will be more of a challenge! :shock:

I dont propose running a stage by stage account of the first part of the build………just check back about 15 pages and you will find an account of one of the warehouses I have built from this kit.

Hopefully it is sufficient to remind you of the basic Scalescene technique of assembling multi layer laminated walls.

Here are the three elements that will make up the front wall of the centre section.



Lots of cutting!


Front and side roughly in position




Some will immediately recognise the striking resemblance to Hook Norton :roll:  Others may require assistance!

The grist mill tower on the right will be topped by a Dapol Water Tank (Cold Liquor storage!). The sack hoist will be inserted in the un-windowed section. Its all brick papered because I am not sure how wide it will be.

Similarly the left hand side only has windows at the top because a two bay unit will be added. This will house the "coppers" where hops are added to the mash and boiled.

I am torn between putting the roof and vents on to this centre unit before constructing the buildings on either side. Although it will be more tedious, I suspect the common sense approach will be to continue cutting out windows!

Regardless next post will be about my HUGE tank …..the 72xx

Regards from Vancouver where the incessant rain has stopped and its cold, crisp and sunny

 
Edited to add Brewing Process Link

Getting those roof lines right will be fun John, Not overly complicated but with just the right amount of variation. Definitely shows that a bit of research pays off and that a unique building is being constructed. 
Marty

Hi John,






"Some will immediately recognize the striking resemblance to Hook Norton :roll:  Others may require assistance!"

Not without the assistance of quite a few "12 Days".

The  brewing house at Hooky (just to make sure it's not confused with  Chippy or Over) is built from local ironstone, with what looks like material from the Hornton quarries for the first 12 feet or so. Note the rounded corners to stop bits being knocked off. This is a rather nice close-grained oolitic limestone building material  that shapes easily, wears well, and costs an arm and a leg. much of the village is built from this ironstone. Still open-cast mined at Great Tew, just north of Banbury. Many of the ancillary buildings  (malting house, stables, and lower level bottling plant at the back) and the chimney were of red and grey brick. Red ashlar or red coursed rubble would probably be the closest sheet from Scalescenes.

The  rather fanciful picture from a poster I have (shown below) shows the brewery in what looks like red brick, the  steam lorry and bowler hats dates it to the end of the 19th/early 20th  century. The local milk delivery company run by the Manley brothers in the 1950's-1960's used  refrigerated rooms to the left of the stables to store the milk (along side the beer barrels). The general plan is reasonably correct (windows excepted), and gives a good feel for the layout. Not something I would ever contemplate modeling.

It's well worth a visit. The brewery had at one time 6 tied pubs in the village, plus there were another 2 owned by other breweries, one for every 100 inhabitants. Only 3 now (the Pear Tree, the Sun, and the Gate Hangs High, all offer B&B). For a bit of railway history check out the old photos in the Sun Inn, opposite the church. The church incidentally is also worth a visit for the Norman font and wall decorations, as well as the village history recorded in the graffiti at the back of the organ - those young 'uns on organ pump standby were inclined to scribe their name on the back wall between hymns and the Saturday Eagle magazine.

Nigel

[user=34]Ken[/user] wrote:

That looks quite a building to take on John and your constructional methods look very interesting so I wish you well with it.   Mind you, with your skills, I think you could do a great full scratchbuild on this - very challenging I know - but what satisfaction you would have.   Of course it would take up a huge amount of time - and as I know full well - as we get older time goes even faster, oh well…..  :roll:

Ken.

Thanks for the kind words Ken.

In some ways I think I am being a little lazy relying on the Scalescene Warehouse as a template for the walls of the Brewery……..but as you so correctly observe…..time is the enemy. I have no idea how I managed to go to work and build Granby I and II :roll:. I have been fully retired for almost a decade now and the days seem to fly by ever faster with not a lot being achieved.

Back to cutting out more windows!

Best wishes

John  

[user=19]Marty[/user] wrote:

Getting those roof lines right will be fun John, Not overly complicated but with just the right amount of variation. Definitely shows that a bit of research pays off and that a unique building is being constructed. 
Marty

Thanks Marty……..not sure if "fun" is quite the right word  :lol:  but if I can pull it off it will make the building quite different than the warehouses I already have…….it will be a while before I start on the vents though.

Cheers

John

[user=1632]BCDR[/user] wrote:

Hi Nigel

Thank you so much for another really informative post……..you of course were the guy who first pointed me towards Hook Norton (we will definitely be visiting there in 2019)

The poster you attached is brilliant………none of the photos I have found gave me a clear idea of what the building to the right of the tower looked like………knowing its function was to house the fermentation tanks I had kind of guessed how it should look but its great to see it in the poster……thank you again that was super helpful.

Lots of other interesting details……hadnt realised that the Brewer's drays were hauled by three horses.  I think either Langley or Dart sell a dray kit and a some Clydesdales that can be set up as pair……so that gone down in the useful ideas book.

Best wishes

John

Hi Nigel

I forgot to add this to my earlier post.

I havent decided to what extent I will try and replicate the black and white decorative trim on the sack hoist…….looking at the poster where both the hoist and the adjacent canopy are coloured reddish brown made me wonder whether they are made of cast iron rather than wood, which is what I had previously thought.

Have you any ideas?

Cheers

John

Hi John,

I would guess they are wood, if they were iron, they are either painted brown or are rusty, but I don't think that's rust, in any case, if you paint them red brown they would be the same as the picture and could be either :)

Hi John, i used to live in Shipston on Stour about two miles from the brewery.I know it quite well.Enjoy your visit.

Looking at the header picture, it looks like wood to me John.

[user=1033]Spurno[/user] wrote:

Hi John, i used to live in Shipston on Stour about two miles from the brewery.I know it quite well.Enjoy your visit.

Thanks Alan……I am sure that I will :thumbs

Cheers

John

[user=753]Phil.c[/user] wrote:

Looking at the header picture, it looks like wood to me John.

I suspect you are correct……the canopy and supporting pillar made me question my original assumption……regardless it will actually be cardboard and plastic:lol:

Cheers

John

It could be anything once you've slapped some paint on it :)

Hi John,

Steel I think. It has to regularly support spent malt grist, which is rather heavy (and wet). Collected regularly by truck.

Couple of images from the beer mat collection ("At Hook Norton, progress is measured in pints"). Grainy, but that's what they're like. First one is outside the Pear Tree Inn, just down the lane from the brewery, the second is the brewery power plant. For anybody interested in modeling the interior. Nice window detail. Better pictures on the website of course. And I should have some in the files from my last visit.

Nigel

Hi Nigel

Thanks for confirming my suspicions about the hoist and canopy……..now I have to work out to what extent I should replicate it.

I will not be modelling any interior detail……the exterior is taking enough time already…..although I may attempt a hint of copper in the next building :lol:.

Once again many thanks for the interest you have shown in this project

Best Wishes

John

A cracking building to model, it's a wonder Allan hasn't had a go at it;-)