GWR/LMS OO Gauge DCC RR&Co

[user=312]Chubber[/user] wrote:

Watching…Enjoying…Envying  

Doug

Thanks Doug……..believe me…..its totally reciprocal :thumbs



here are a few shots with the roof and buildings back in position

To quote Eric Morecambe……."You can hardly see the join"









From the North Side……you can see some colour variations on the roof  covering but I actually had that before the accident so the new pieces  blend into the patchwork quite well

I took the opportunity to insert plastic rather than card beams between  the arches to give additional structural strength and capped the entire  stretch with slightly deeper tiles

Maybe a bit more weathering and it is done





As part of the figure painting exercise I slipped in a new driver and conductor to the bus stop cameo




I never really watched " On the buses" but I think Monty's have captured the essence of it……I do like the fag!


Not sure there was an Ocean Beach at Rhyl in 1947 but hopefully the bus is of the
right era.


No prizes for guessing the loco that is rather too well defined in this next shot……..specially for an internet friend on another forum who has an aversion to the largest class of locos ever built in the UK……now there is a big clue:lol:






When I painted this I really had to delve into my memory to guess the  assorted kit that Conductors (Clippies fem.) used to carry.













You are probably bored with figures but I have to show this next shot.




As you will have gathered I am a big fan of Oxford Models.To my mind  they are amazingly well detailed and relatively inexpensive. (no  connection)

Just look at the detail and lettering quality on the Austin 7 Liptons Van.

Next to it is an AA motor cycle combo……..by a happy coincidence  Monty's have just released a Patrolman……..the scales are slightly  adrift…….but the 3' rule sorts that out quite well. Many thanks Bill (Longchap) with the livery…..I hope I have it right?

Pure nostalgia……I do recall being saluted by these guys in my first car (oops second) a rusting 1947 Ford Prefect.





Now for a change of pace…….the railway room faces WSW, which can be a  problem in summer, but provided some superb natural lighting when the  rain briefly stopped and a watery January sun poked its way through the  clouds, illuminating the interior of the station









I wanted to show you a new porter I added but I forgot about the Taxis




 






Here is another shot of the LMS Booking Hall in Black and White








And a close up shot from the rear……will those sailors ever catch their train?







and finally :






Maybe I have too vivid an imagination……or too long a  memory…….but I feel I can smell the smoke and soot as the fog climbs  up from the valley below.

[user=434]John Dew[/user] wrote:

As part of the figure painting exercise I slipped in a new driver and conductor to the bus stop cameo




I never really watched " On the buses" but I think Monty's have captured the essence of it……I do like the fag!

Spot on exclam:

Not that I watch, but it's currently repeated for the umpteenth time during the afternoons.

(Just background noise and I can't be bothered to turn the kitchen TV over :lol:).

Another great set of pictures John :thumbs


Ed

Please keep photographing the figures in detail, I think they look great they bring life to a layout when used properly as you have.

Pete. 

Thanks guys glad you like the photos……I was very lucky with the sunlight

On to something different now…….finally going to build the dairy!

Great B&W shot of the Station front!

Phil

John Drew wrote:

As part of the figure painting exercise I slipped in a new driver and conductor to the bus stop cameo


No prizes for guessing the loco that is rather too well defined in this next shot……..specially for an internet friend on another forum who has an aversion to the largest class of locos ever built in the UK……now there is a big clue:lol:









As you will have gathered I am a big fan of Oxford Models.To my mind they are amazingly well detailed and relatively inexpensive. (no connection)

Just look at the detail and lettering quality on the Austin 7 Liptons Van.

Next to it is an AA motor cycle combo……..by a happy coincidence Monty's have just released a Patrolman……..the scales are slightly adrift…….but the 3' rule sorts that out quite well. Many thanks Bill (Longchap) with the livery…..I hope I have it right?

Pure nostalgia……I do recall being saluted by these guys in my first car (oops second) a rusting 1947 Ford Prefect.

 

Hi John,

Patrol man Donald (Monty Don?) really looks the part astride his m/c combo. I have a brass armature currently glued up his brother's bottom on my work bench, him being in a semi-painted state and I hope his turn-out becomes similarly as smart as your chap.

I also have become a fan of Oxford Diecast and will be looking at how to break into several of them to insert drivers in due course, this never having been an issue with my kit builds! 

The station bustle is a great success and I too love the fag hanging out the bus driver's mouth. Well done and good luck with the dairy.

Bill :)

PS you can never have too many panniers! 

[user=753]Phil.c[/user] wrote:

Great B&W shot of the Station front!

Phil

Thanks Phil :thumbs  I was very lucky with the natural lighting…….its been pouring non stop since:roll:

Cheers

[user=1814]Longchap[/user] wrote:

Hi John,

Patrol man Donald (Monty Don?) really looks the part astride his m/c combo. I have a brass armature currently glued up his brother's bottom on my work bench, him being in a semi-painted state and I hope his turn-out becomes similarly as smart as your chap.

I also have become a fan of Oxford Diecast and will be looing at how to break into several of them to insert drivers in due course, this never having been an issue with my kit builds! 

The station bustle is a great success and I too love the fag hanging out the bus driver's mouth. Well done and good luck with the dairy.

Bill :)

PS you can never have too many panniers! 

Thanks Bill……glad you liked Donald……good name for him:lol:

Do let me know how you get on with inserting drivers into Oxford Models. I meant to mention the rather obvious absence of a driver in the Lipton Van in the middle of a busy square. Ron (Sol) rather cleverly suggested elsewhere that that the van had clearly broken down, hence the adjacent AA patrolman

Talking of Oxford…..have you seen the production samples of their Dean Goods?

Oxford Rail announces - OO gauge GWR Dean Goods - Oxford Rail - RMweb

I think it looks splendid. Nick did a splendid job on his conversion but I am rather glad I chickened out……one of these will hopefully be doing a few turns on Granby later this year

:cheers

John

Dean Goods, wowzer, it does look a bit good does it not? I'll certainly be looking out for further announcements, yet suspect it will arrive about the time I'd get round to sliding a High Level chassis under my Mainline version. It seems to make sense to wait and see how good it is and if it gets up into the same quality as David Jones latest models (and Oxford Rail's wagons), we'll all want one!

Like me John, I suspect you may be expecting a DJ 14xx in a few weeks time. I think I may even order a shirt button one as well.

Thank you for the heads up.

Bill :)

 

Stop Press: Hattons are predicting between July and September this year! Interesting.

Bill

[user=1814]Longchap[/user] wrote:

Stop Press: Hattons are predicting between July and September this year! Interesting.

Bill

Right now it looks as if Oxford Dean Goods will arrive a month or so ahead of DJMs 14xx:roll:   Looking forward to both

There is now very little undeveloped real estate left on Granby:roll:

The next few posts will be focussed on building and operating a dairy/creamery on this postage stamp site











Adjacent to Cynwyd cattle dock and accessed via the goods yard it was originally destined to be a timber yard. However I became fascinated by the impact that the railways had on the movement of milk from cow to consumer. Incorporating a dairy, however .cramped, would enable me to replicate this traffic. So the Timber yard was binned and the site has remained vacant and stayed like this for at least four years

When I started researching the project in more detail…….to get an idea on shape, size and colour…..I googled "Model Railway Dairies "
one of the first hits I got ……was the shot above :lol:……not terribly helpful!

However I struck gold with this

http://mike.da2c.org/igg/rail/7-fops/fo-milk.htm

Many will already be familiar with it but for those who are not its a veritable mine of information…..thoroughly recommended as a source on all manner of railway minutae

Because of the pie shaped site I made some card cutouts to see what would work best.



My time frame of the late 1940s encompasses a number of different phases in the evolution of milk transport and I have tried to reflect that in the building design. Milk was still collected from farms in churns but most was processed at local creameries, like mine, before transhipment to major population centres in glass lined tankers



There will be a couple of loading bays to receive Milk Churns and despatch finished products like Butter and dried milk.

On the right you can see the mock up of the covered area where the milk tankers wil be loaded.

After much thought I am going to make the main building with a card shell clad with Slaters Stone plasticard…….but probably with a Scalescene printed roof.

I am still undecided on colour……mucky grey will tie in with the mill and goods shed but it does seem that many dairies were whitewashed…….my source above states that during WWII they were actually camouflaged because of this…..I am sorely tempted to do this…… but right now I am veering towards weathered white.



  Here are some "cast offs" which I hope to convert into ancillary buildings. The original Ratio Timber merchants is destined to become the covered shed for steam washing the tankers. The very early vintage Metcalfe "Elk" chimney will be clad with plasticard and I need to build a small boilerhouse and find room for a water tank.

Lots to do…….to finish here is a shot of two full tankers being taken from the dairy down the yard to the bay siding to be attached to the next passenger train to Granby……..and from there to be attached to the Shrewsbury-Birkenhead Milk Train which can be just seen above, leaving the storage sidings




The beauty of a direct connection to the station through the yard means I dont have to worry about a brake van which would have made shunting a right pain. Less certain about the correct head lamp code……but I guess light engine covers a multitude of sins within the station?

Everything is stunning on your layout

I concur with Jimmy and the dairy mock-up looks to usefully exploit what little development space is still available in Granby. I particularly like the way that research has determined the operational functionality and mock-up the feel of your dairy. It'll be grand John and you even have road and dairy worker access through the railway arch! 

Well done, 

Bill :)  

an interesting project John,one to follow,as I have a similar one myself,
:thumbs;-):cool:
Owen

[user=981]jimmy styles[/user] wrote:

Everything is stunning on your layout

Thanks Jimmy…..I am afraid that you flatter me…..after eight years there are a number of sections that desperately need some TLC…….the Metcalfe terraces featured in the last shot being a case in point……it looks as though a hurricane has swept through with the number of missing Chimney pots (cunningly cropped from the photos:oops:)


Longchap wrote:

I  concur with Jimmy and the dairy mock-up looks to usefully exploit what  little development space is still available in Granby. I  particularly like the way that research has determined the operational  functionality and mock-up the feel of your dairy.
  Bill :) 

Thanks Bill……it has been very interesting learning how dramatically milk distribuition has evolved during my lifetime. One of ny lasting childhood memories would be the milk still being delivered in a pony and trap in the middle of suburbia (Great Crosby,Liverpool 23). We used to take a jug out and the milk was ladled out from a churn

It'll be grand John and you even have road and dairy worker access through the railway arch!

Thanks for the reminder…I forgot to repeat this shot of the other side……..originally posted June 2014:roll: …….no wonder progress is so slooow





Silver Fox wrote:

an interesting project John,one to follow,as I have a similar one myself,
:thumbs;-):cool:
Owen

Glad to hear that Owen…….maybe we should compare notes……

My immediate problem is trying to work out how to replicate the area where the milk is transferred into the tankers. Despite the enclosure it will be quite visible. I have an old water crane I think I can adapt and I am thinking of spraying lipstick tubes with silver to suggest stainless steel vats……..but maybe I am too heavily influenced by visits to wineries…….dont think I have ever been in a dairy!:lol:

Best Wishes from a very wet Vancouver

ok john, try this for size,just to give some ideas
milk dairies - Recherche Google

This is just breathtaking.. I hope to one day construct layouts like this… But as yet I haven't even built a 4x8 tabletop…

Thanks Owen…..lots of photos to get ideas from in that link:thumbs

Glad you like Granby, Brendan……if it's any consolation it's taken almost 9 years to get this far……and before that there was Granby I and II

Best wishes

[user=434]John Dew[/user] wrote:

My immediate problem is trying to work out how to replicate the area where the milk is transferred into the tankers. Despite the enclosure it will be quite visible. I have an old water crane I think I can adapt and I am thinking of spraying lipstick tubes with silver to suggest stainless steel vats……..but maybe I am too heavily influenced by visits to wineries…….dont think I have ever been in a dairy!:lol:

Best Wishes from a very wet Vancouver

I think the pipes to fill the tanks were pretty small and so mayble hardly modellable? Perhaps the odd bit of small diameter round styrene rod would do?

Google "torrington milk depot" and the picture results might give some ideas. There was layout of this on RMWeb, can't remember if this detail modelled or not. Here's one of the pictures from the google results if that helps

(Photo from Nine Elms Locomotive Shed Website)

I can't recall if it was thought, laziness or lack of ambition but I didn't attempt to model this on my creamery at Marlingford. Maybe something consider when I eventually clear the detritus off it!

All the best

Jon