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:):)Congrats John,A well deserved photo of the week for Granby.

Regards,

Derek.

You're more than welcome John and fully deserved i might add.

Hadnt appreciated it was so long since I updated the Granby  Thread………there has been lots of operating though and at least the  video was evidence of that:) So here is a very quick post


I left you with this shot of the street running up to the station building




I always felt that the station despite its imposing appearance lacked  mass and need wings on either side to give balance and realism.

Last September I started a separate thread kitbashing the Scalescene unit to provide a matching unit without the tower


I got as far as this

 

Looked fine on the kitchen top but when I took it down to the railway  room it looked a bit overpowering and, even worse, blocked the street  off entirely which rather defeated the purpose.

     So I put it on one side to sulk and think while I developed the pub scene at the bottom of the street

Last week, rather than waste all the work I decided to try and cut the  depth down by 2"………….let me tell you….John Wiffen's kits are  built to withstand a major earthquake! Fortunately my glueing was, in  places, of a somewhat lower standard. So some incisions with a scalpel blade and a bit of wrenching got it reduced to its constituent parts.

It was then relatively easy to cut the roof, floor and ends back by 2"  …..re-assemble and add all John's delightful finishing detail.

All done except for Chimneys, Signage and some touch up



And here it is in situ……..the street space in front is very narrow but at least suggests some continuity




Granby is a joint GWR/LMS station and I believe such stations used to  have separate booking and parcels offices so the plan is to sign this up  as the LMS wing

I was originally going to model the side street with a series of bus  stops like Skelhorne St alongside Lime St Station in Liverpool (its  probably changed now)………….hence the tacky green shelter along  side……..now I am having second thoughts so the hut will go and I  will leave finishing the street until all the buildings in Station  Square are completed

Here is a view of the Station Square site…….



I am quite pleased with the effect of the new wing………I am going to  build a similar wing for the left hand side ………but I am uncertain  exactly how to place it. So I will delay building it until the final  unit of the roof , which will be fixed to the main building,  has been  constructed.

So thats the next job……the 7 components for each of the 4 arches to  be cut out of thick and medium card and laminated together………I  guess there are worse things to do under a sunshade with a cooling drink  to help:)  


 

That's truly great railway modelling John, that roof is awesome!!

Cheers
Ron

Thanks Ron...........just have to do the last section:roll:I think I built the roof you can see 4 years ago!

Hi John

You could build the same again, but turn it through 90 degrees, to run towards your news paper stand, but on the lower level, graft on module B to the front to give you your GWR parcels facility, with offices on the upper floors set slightly back. The area left would give turning area's for your buses and railway transport, or even a small stables.

Paul

Hi John

The modelling is a great continuation of the excellent quality produced throughout Granby. The station roof is one thing but I must admit to being a bit of a sucker for your warehousing even though it may have been an easier ( if somewhat repetitive ) build for you.

Fantastic to look at and a great example of what can be achieved.

Thanks for sharing

Toto.

[user=888]paul_l[/user] wrote:

Hi John

You could build the same again, but turn it through 90 degrees, to run towards your news paper stand, but on the lower level, graft on module B to the front to give you your GWR parcels facility, with offices on the upper floors set slightly back. The area left would give turning area's for your buses and railway transport, or even a small stables.

Paul

You  must be physic Paul;-)………..thats almost exactly what I was planning to do …….so that the second wing being at right angles would enclose, as it were, the station concourse (which is about to be covered by the roof extension)………its very nice and symmetrical for the station but leaves a lot of awkard angles at the front……..where eventually I want to bash the Scalescene High Street front and rear to make a Post Office and Hotel…………….I just realised this morning that a mirror image of the new wing would clean up the angles and give me more platform space for detailing which could be viewed when people enter the railway room……..procrastinating never does any harm….I will finish the roof and see what it looks like!


Thanks Toto glad you like it…….you are right about the warehouses being repetitive…..I still have one more to do…..but creating the wing was interesting because of the challenges involved

Cheers

John - now I'm starting to get worried, I just hope you're not decending down to my level

My current project - when I get chance, the Low relief high street bank / post office but with full walls etc.



Paul

Now theres a coincidence……….thats exactly what I was planning to do……..I hope you are going to post a "how I did it" to give me some ideas…………..I was thinking of a General Post Office which kind of makes sense next to the station and I thought I could pretty much use the bank building as is……..the hotel was a bit more questionable from a front door aspect….I havent bought the kit yet so I dont know what all the frontages look like

Cheers

 














 

Very impressive John, what's going in the empty area on the last scene?

 

Phil

Thanks Phil…..thats very kind of you.

I am going to add another wing to the station and build a Post Office and Hotel……in front is a street scene…Station Square although its really a triangle

Kind Regards

John

Magnificent! I agree, 90 degrees to the main building and across the back of the platforms is the way to go.


There are obviously aliens intent upon mischief somewhere in Granby. "The Doctor " is on the job.


Might that be the next video John?


Cheers


Marty

[user=19]Marty[/user] wrote:

Magnificent! I agree, 90 degrees to the main building and across the back of the platforms is the way to go.


There are obviously aliens intent upon mischief somewhere in Granby. "The Doctor " is on the job.


Might that be the next video John?


Cheers


Marty

Thanks Marty

The police box was for the grandchildren…….they still like it even though they are virtually grown up

Having that magically rising and falling would be a bit daunting for me:lol:

:cheers

Been busy cutting out the components for the 4 Scalescene arches I need to finish the roof



The free hand curves are a bit daunting at first but after a while one gets fairly confident……..just keep changing the blades


Here are the 7 components needed for one arch



4 outer arches mounted on medium 1mm card and 2 inner arches and a keystone mounted on heavy 2mm card


Here is how they fit together……I never cease to marvel at John Wiffens skill in designing these pieces




So you finish up with an arch that is 5 mm thick, 200 mm high and with a span of 450 mm and surprisingly robust.

Three down ……one to go……….this one, being the end arch is a bit different.





The printed vertical glazing strips were stiffened by mounting on to plasticard before cutting out.


A test run showing one of the new arches where it will be mounted on the back of the station building





This next shot illustrates why I have been stalling the completion of the roof   :shock:




All bar one arch of the existing roof are fixed to a full height supporting wall.

The arches of two of the new arches are cut back so they can be fixed to a shorter wall that is cantilevered over the goods relief that runs past Platform 6  :shock:……..this is all free lance stuff……..not at all sure John Wiffen would approve :roll:



You can see the markers where the other three arches will go





Clearance is very tight…… the goods relief is joined by the carriage sidings exit and behind the shortened support wall is the exit road from the turntable………..I suspect it will not look very prototypical but at this stage it does look as though locos will just (and I mean just) squeak by.

There will be a short break before the next gripping installment…..we will be away in the Southern Gulf Islands next week

Regards from a very hot and sunny Vancouver

velly interlesting, but it seems you are winning,looks good to me
:thumbs;-):cool:

That will be a superb roof John, King's Cross is an overgrown Nissen hut by comparison. Good photography too.

Clearances certainly do look tight John :shock:

but I'm sure it will also look very impressive once finished :thumbs


Ed

Hi John,

As Ed has stated, the clearances do look tight between the trains and the wall sections. Have you considered making up some ornate posts/piers (styrene ?) to hold the canopy up ?

Perhaps something similar to the sketch ??



Cheers, Gary.

[user=1698]Silver fox[/user] wrote:

velly interlesting, but it seems you are winning,looks good to me
:thumbs;-):cool:

Thanks Owen……..still lots to do I am afraid and I will not really feel I have won until its finally in place and the Jinty can haul a train out of the siding on to the relief road

Brian R wrote:

That will be a superb roof John, King's Cross is an overgrown Nissen hut by comparison. Good photography too.

Thanks Brian……you are very kind about the photos…..its been very sunny here….hence the variations…..loved the Nissen Hut analogy

Ed wrote:

Clearances certainly do look tight John :shock:
but I'm sure it will also look very impressive once finished :thumbs
Ed

Thanks Ed……it wont be impressive if that Jinty cant get out of the siding…….although the really tight spot is on the rear of the wall where I suspect there may be some very authentic weathering/scarring


Gary wrote:

 Hi John,    As Ed has stated, the clearances do look tight between the trains and the wall sections. Have you considered making up some ornate posts/piers (styrene ?) to hold the canopy up ?    Perhaps something similar to the sketch ??  

Thanks Gary……thats a neat idea which may well become a Plan B!

There are a number of problems/constraints with locating the roof.

The position of the arches is limited by the configuration of the station windows and doors……the problem would go away if I could edge the critical arch to the left……but I cant because the arch base would cover a window

Although the arches are very robust they rely on an element of sideways compression from the two supporting walls……the top beam to which the truncated arches are fixed needs to be very substantial

And finally experience has taught me that the roof has to be moveable but to get that compreesion you have to have some permanently glued fixed points that the roof will slot into.

Challenges are stimulating but I do sometimes wonder about this one:hmm