From here Peter.

 

http://www.arcadiarail.co.uk/products/bachmann/trains/locomotive/32-782a/class-372F0-d6984-br-green-centre-head-code-weathered.html

 

The weathering is not quite as intense as the picture so it's another job for my airbrush ;-)

 

The decoder has just arrived with a big speaker!

 

Phil

Don't know that one Phil but, although his website isn't complete, his prices seem highly competitive. :thumbs

Are you a first time customer ?

Yes, first time customer, I also hadn't heard of them, but they seem very good, phoned up late, was promised the goods would be sent the next day, payed £6 odd for signed delivery and it arrived the next day, today…..gotta fit that decoder later:lol:

 

Phil

Just fitted the 21 pin decoder,….dead as a doornail, can't get a reading from it:???:

Phil

[user=753]Phil.c[/user] wrote:

Just fitted the 21 pin decoder,….dead as a doornail, can't get a reading from it:???:

Phil

Hi Phil,

AFAIA you can easily fit the 21 pin decoder the wrong way round.

But, I don't remember whether or not it acts dead, or runs the wrong way.

Got to be worth checking though, good luck!

Jeff

PS, I assume it's ok on DC?

I tried it both ways, it works ok on DC.

Phil

Well, it sounds like a duff decoder to me then.

Do you have any other 21 pin locos that you swop around with?

That way you can confirm whether or not it is the decoder

or the loco connections/socket.

Or anyone nearby that has one you can check with?

Cheers, Jeff

No other 21pin decoders to check with, but it works with the dc chip plugged in.

Phil

What make is the decoder Phil ?

I've never had a dud myself but I understand they are around ………….

Whatever, it's extremely disappointing and most annoying.  Now there's a weekend to get through - you can't use your loco whilst those who supplied the dud decoder (if it is dud), have a couple of days off playing golf ……………:twisted::twisted::twisted::twisted::twisted::twisted:

Loksound ESU, tried it again this morning, get the message "Can Not Read CV" when I reverse it I get " Short Circuit Detected".

That sounds like a faulty one Phil …………but then I'm no expert and as I said, I've never had a faulty one so don't know what to expect.

Maybe one of the "experts" will be on soon and give their opinion. :roll:

I've asked for some advice elsewhere Phil - either I, or someone else will hopefully get back to you soon. :thumbs

Thanks Peter, i've just spoken to the guy that programs them and it's on it's way back to him, I should receive it back Wednesday?

 

Phil

I did not think that they could be reversed & still work at all like the 8 pin units.

Phil, did you program the number on a program track? Normally the loco should jump a bit in acknowledgment of a program being accepted by the decoder.
"Cannot read CV" tends to indicate an open circuit, either in the decoder or dirty track & wheels and DCC requires far cleaner track & wheels than DC. If in doubt, a decoder tester is a necessity

Ron, they can't be reversed.

I tried it on program track, it didn't read the manufacturers number, usually something like 151, couldn't program it with 003 which is the default, all I got was "Can not read cv" which as you said could be a dirty track, I also checked out my other loco's and they "Read", anyway, it's gone back so we'll wait and see.

 

Thanks for your help.

 

Phil

New decoder arrived and fitted!

What a sound with this 37 class, the speaker that is supplied with the Loksound sounded ok but the large oval one that I fitted is great, it gives real depth and the loco growls. It also has the gear changes on acceleration.

The only problem is with the front and cab lights, they don't work, I have adjusted the connectors inside the body but still no luck…still working on it.

Brian the decoder programmer and loco sound recorder from Howes  phoned me up that night to check if everything was ok, I thought that was very good for customer relations;-)

I also had a good day Thursday, Chris Nevard arrived at 1.15pm to take pictures of Pen Y Bryn for the magazine, and left at 7.15pm, lots of pics taken, also a short video.

Phil

[user=753]Phil.c[/user] wrote:

New decoder arrived and fitted!


The only problem is with the front and cab lights, they don't work, I have adjusted the connectors inside the body but still no luck…still working on it.

Phil, not even with pressing Headlight button or button 0 ?  

 I am assuming the  decoder has been programmed that way as it is the normal default function. Did the decoder come with an instruction sheet showing the various functions?

Sorry Ron, I didn't explain properly, the front cab lights don't work but the rear ones do, in both directions. 0 is selected.

I replaced the decoder with the original Bachmann CB and it's the same, but I do get the cab lights and front ones (white) flickering occasionally, which leads me to think that it's a pickup problem.

I have adjusted the phosphor bronze pickups so that they should touch the contacts, of course there's no way of seeing if they do.

Phil

Models only in this section please Phil .......................:shock::shock::shock::pathead:pathead