Petermac's Railway

I had a little spare time this evening so popped into the attic to see if my idea for the placement of Bradford Wheregate would work out and fortunately, it will fit like a glove. :thumbs

It will form the road level station complex for the below ground through station and fits snugly in the corner I'd hoped it would.

Here it is - temporarily "mocked up" to give an idea of future developments:



The "urban" area in the foreground is Maxmill Town terminus at the end of the central "tongue" and "Bradford Wheregate" is on the outer circuit.


The idea is that trains will disappear (on the right) beneath the station forecourt and reappear in a wall lined cutting (front left) well below ground level.  There will be 2 curved platform faces for the main part, approximately 6ft long and, within the lined cutting will be two further faces each with a dead-end terminal track for the local services (DMU or 2 coach suburban steam train) up to Maxmill Town:



Road access will be along the stone wall you can just see to the left and will connect to the "Chocolate Pudding Lane" tube module which is about 6ft behind the photographer. Ideally, there will be a tram service between the two.  There is also room to take the road off into "the rest of the world" to the right to offer slightly more realism.  I had hoped to have room to fit in a tram turnaround off to the right but, even allowing for the tight radii trams can negotiate, I doubt there is enough space.

Hi Petermac,

That looks like a substantial building. You certainly would not gave rattled that together. Very impressive. The whole area  looks like it will be effective on the multiple levels.
Keep the pictures coming as it develops please,

Toto

Hi Peter

You are right……… the site for the new acquisition looks perfect but I think it also presents some challenges.

I worry that it may dominate the scene below which, I sense, was originally planned to be the centrepiece of the layout. As shown it will be difficult to meld in the low relief High Street buildings for instance.

I think it could be done very effectively ( I am reminded of Tetley Mills) but it may involve repositioning some of the minor players.

Will the board be cut away in some fashion to give a glimpse of the platforms serving Wheregate? Not easy but I think it is important to establish a visual connection between the building and its railway.

I do hope this doesnt appear to be negative and by all means ignore it…….but its better to think about these issues early on 

Looking good Peter. :thumbs

Terry

I can take no credit for this building other than transporting it from Tyneside to France …………….Mojo is the guy who takes the bow. :thumbs

I think I need to post some kind of track plan John.  This station is in a different place and on a different level to Maxmill Town so each will be "self supporting" units.  The platforms at "Wheregate" will be visible after emerging from the "tunnel" beneath the buildings/roadways in a cutting.  I rather like the idea of them disappearing underground - one might wonder "what's under there ?" ………….:roll:

The photo was taken to include a part of the "Town" station area so you could see where it fits in to the overall plan of things.  The problem is, I can see it in it's entirety but you can't.

I'm not much good at track planning on paper but I'll see if I can post a simplified version "a la tube map" rather than the masterpieces I'm used to seeing from other contributors………….. watch this space ………..;-)

Really pleased it fits the bill, Peter. I'm missing it already.

You could build another one Pat - I can't !!! :lol::lol::lol:

If I can transform my visions into reality, it will look absolutely fantastic.  :thumbs:thumbs:thumbs

I think I need to post some kind of track plan John.  This station is in a different place and on a different level to Maxmill Town so each will be "self supporting" units.  The platforms at "Wheregate" will be visible after emerging from the "tunnel" beneath the buildings/roadways in a cutting.  I rather like the idea of them disappearing underground - one might wonder "what's under there ?" ………….:roll:

The photo was taken to include a part of the "Town" station area so you could see where it fits in to the overall plan of things.  The problem is, I can see it in it's entirety but you can't.

I'm not much good at track planning on paper but I'll see if I can post a simplified version "a la tube map" rather than the masterpieces I'm used to seeing from other contributors………….. watch this space ………..;-)

My apologies Peter…….I really should know better than to make off the cuff comments based on my hazy recollection of a very brief visit……….at least I told you to ignore it:lol:  ………a map will help though

Kind Regards

  â€œBear’s End Mill” is now installed in  it’s permanent site on Maxmill Junction Railway.
This view from Maxmill Engineering module shows the driver’s eye approach.



   
    This shot shows the site in relation to the engineering module.  Most of the hill, pale green/brown and just beyond the corrugated covered loading dock, will have to be bulldozed out of the way to make the contours more sensible but I have some idea of what I’ll do.
  

The separate unit forming the hill and road tunnel beyond the actual mill buildings is only wedged in there for this shot and will be lifted out of the way so the ply back scene can be painted.



 

I think it fits almost perfectly and has made a superb corner unit.  The low level circuit can be seen running under the road whilst the high level tracks to the terminus station can be seen curving away to the right in the foreground before descending Maxmill Bank to join the main circuit at a double junction from where the layout takes it’s name.


   
  

Huzzah!!

Doug

I like the way you've built up the topography, Peter. On my next layout I must move away from flat boards. Look forward to viewing your progress.
   

:):)Lovely scene Peter,Maxmill Junction is certainly going high end in the railway stakes.

Different levels also add a huge amount to the scenics and operating potential.

Have a great festive season with Liz.

Cheers,

Derek.

Thanks all. :thumbs

I like the "raised bed" type of open topped baseboards because it allows both above and below track level scenery.  I wish I'd lifted the tracks even higher - they're only about 3 inches above the framework - because it would have allowed me to have a good bridge/viaduct somewhere.  However, it does offer more latitude in landscaping than flat boards.

i'm assuming by "Maxmill being at the high end in the railway stakes", you're referring to the altitude of the raised trackbeds Derek. :roll::roll:  It's certainly a very long way from "high end" in modelling terms - you only need to compare my own work to the examples on here of Doug and Pat's work to see how far I still have to go before it's anything to shout about.

[user=6]Petermac[/user] wrote:

I can take no credit for this building other than transporting it from Tyneside to France …………….Mojo is the guy who takes the bow. :thumbs

 I thought that station building looked familiar Peter. I certainly looks good where it is but it is difficult to imagine how all the various parts fit together to make the whole so a track plan would be good.

Just found a clip (several months old and poor You Tube quality ) of a DMU pushing my camera truck around the layout.  Done before the new acquisitions of "Bear's End Mill" and "Bradford Wheregate".

It does a low level outer circuit then climbs Maxmill Bank up to the high level terminus station.

Excuse the "junk" around the sides - Maxmill is still very much "work in progress" …………

 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bCqFBuPQW-o&feature=youtu.be

I'll post up a schematic track plan shortly Trevor. :thumbs

I've been playing around some more with my keyring camera and a video editing programme (Arcsoft Showbiz) that I have on the laptop.

I copied several versions back from the editing programme to the computer to see what format  offered the best reproduction.  AVI & WMV files were dreadful - a distortion of the near forground and constant "shimmer".  MOV  offered the best reproduction but I couldn't get the sound to copy on the edit …………    This uploaded one is a DV file and, cinematographer aside, offers a watchable upload.

Having watched the originals, the edits, the copy back and now the You Tube uploaded versions, it's amazing how much changes in the "digital transfer" operations - even allowing for the fact that the keyring camera lens is probably only a piece of perspex  ………………:roll::roll:

The following clip (which took almost 3 years to upload to Youtube ……….) shows the layout arrangement - particularly in relation to Mojo's "Bradford Wheregate" station buildings, Dooferdog's "Bear's End Mill" and Geoff R's "Chocolate Pudding Lane" tube module.  Hopefully, it will avoid the necessity of doing a plan for Trevor (Chinahand) ;-)

The difference between the low level circuit and the high level terminus is about 3.5 inches (very roughly 8.5 cms).

The DMU reverses out of the fiddle yard then completes 1 and a half  circuits of the main line before exiting right,  up Maxmill bank,  passing Bear's End Mill and Maxmill Engineering on the way to the  terminus station.

You'll see how the planned position of the "Bradford Wheregate" station  buildings will stand above the tracks of the subterranean platforms at the future  "Maxmill Wheregate"  station.

Shortly after "Wheregate", trains pass through the tunnel beneath the  "Chocolate Pudding Lane" tube module at the end of which, is the double  junction from where the layout takes it's name.

Straight on to complete the circular route (so I can watch the trains go by) or swing right to climb the  Maxmill bank gradient before passing "Bear's End Mill", "Maxmill Engineering" and  then on to the terminus at "Maxmill Town".

Future plans include linking "Wheregate" station area with "Pudding Lane" by a street level tram route.

Excuse all the assorted "junk" around the layout - this wasn't designed as a screen test …………………….

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5kmPb9pRpJM

p.s. Does anyone know how to upload to You Tube in less that a lifetime ………..?

That's a nice little video Peter and it's put the various pictures you've posted into context with the whole layout. 

One thing I would suggest though is that you reset the date on your video camera. I know it's 2015 now but I seem to have missed the whole of Spring and Summer if it's 24th September already. :hmm

Hi Peter

Nice video, enjoyed that :thumbs

Shows the layout of the layout very well.



Ed


PS The upload speed is all down to your internet connection/service provider, although I believe some file types upload at different speeds.



 

[user=946]Chinahand[/user] wrote:

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One thing I would suggest though is that you reset the date on your video camera. I know it's 2015 now but I seem to have missed the whole of Spring and Summer if it's 24th September already. :hmm

  To reset the timecode Trevor, I'd have to find out how to do that and, as you probably know, I don't do "instructions".


Joking aside, the very poor instruction leaflet that came with the £15 camera makes absolutely no reference to settings beyond "stop" "start", "video" or "still" ………………..hmm

If it's on the memory card, then I could probably reset that. :roll:  I'll look into it before winter comes around again ……………. :cheers

Great video Peter.My first real experience of sound.You've got me thinking now.Sound in N scale.:hmm