Wagon turntable, worm and gear
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The bonus with Meccano is it being an engineered solution, it tends to be reasonably reliable once you work out a plan.
The other reliable option of course, is the hand from the sky.
Bin vourage,
Bill
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You only need to rotate 90° or less for a cross or straight wagon turntable. Try Shapeways for a complete system that is WIT controlled. Or a spring tensioner and WIT. Although with less than 2" diameter direct WIT could work.
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Hi Martin. Thank you for your reply. If I wasn’t confused before? I am now. Not available to us in Germany 🇩🇪.So I sent off etc etc. And there I was. Where are they “ SH Muffet†then if you are here and not Germany, are they online? Best wishes Kevin.S.H.Muffet are your friends for proper chunky strong beautifully made gears. I used their worm and wheel set for an invention I am the credited inventor for on a VW Patent. Worked perfectly. Such things were not available to us in Germany, so I just sent off for Muffet's catalogue and got exactly what I wanted.
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Muffett is a UK company. A catalog from the 1980's if you can find one will set you back $30.00. Not the company it used to be. Bespoke 12" to the foot gears and gearboxes.
An OO turntable and push pull mechanism from Shapeways is all you need. Comes in 12' or long wheelbase wagon versions. 3D print. Brick surrounds available if desired. Meant for WIT operation. Well worth a look. I have no affiliation with the designer, who lives in France and is a model railway modeler. Google [OO wagon turntable] or the same on the Shapeways site. Code 100 rail. As I said, you only need 90° rotation or less.
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Cheers,
Martin
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Not quite the zero cost knock it up in 5 minutes that Martin suggests (well, you can if you have a decent workshop with mill and lathe but…). My experience so far on building a wagon turntable in EM/4mm scale:
CD box (common starter): Nope.
Styrene: Nope. Unless an underframe is used it warps.
Brass: Yes. But for the underframe
Wood: Yes. But you need a very good router and/or bandsaw. And a frame.
Issues: Getting concentric table and frame. Bearing or not? Centering of bearing. Central bearing shaft or peripheral race bearing? 2 or 4 way track? Rotation mechanism. Electrical isolation. Must be absolutely level. Most UK standard gauge ones used capstan drives, electric, horse or locomotive powered.
Faller do an HO kit, 2 way. Shapeways have that 4 way. Having played around for 3 years on and off with this I know where I am going in the On30 layout.
Nigel
EDIT: NONE OF THE ABOVE. If I did it would be a 2"/50mm diameter Lazy Susan Bearing and a top around 3" in diameter which will take a UK 12 ton wagon. 12mm diameter shaft to which is attached one of those slow RPM gear head motors.Top of styrene or brass with the rails attached, cobblestones to finish. Simple F-Off-R DPDT switch. Lots of issues re uncoupling wagons unless you use delayed action KD ones. And getting them off and back on the turntable when there is no locomotive. Capstans of course. Basically what I described with the On30 turntable, but no live rails. I can dream.
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It does loo a well engineered system.
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Bruce
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I took your OP to mean that you want to hand power it, so a shaft of plastic rod or even dowel will do, bearing in a couple of bits of wood hanging down from the baseboard. One end has a disc of wood or plastic to turn it, tother end can have a piece of rubber sleeve for a friction drive on a coffee jar lid fixed to the end of the "shaft", which we already have as a piece of K&S tube. There is no need to over complicate these things. Electric power is way over the top, especially if you need to do it on a shoestring. And why not? It's just a wagon turntable, after all. If you can't saw and file a 3" disc without a bandsaw, you should probably consider a different hobby!
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Martin
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Lots of ideas here from bits of scrap and a pair of scissors and no rails (is that a railway?) through heavy duty engineered solutions that would take a small locomotive (which many did). Have a look at some real life examples on the web to get some idea of the actual construction. That is the logical starting point.
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All i will say is sometimes you have to be realistic with how much spare time you have available with all the other things that have to be done on a layout,sometimes one has to say its easier just to buy a ready made or simple kit that will do the job relatively quickly. Plus of course is scratchbuilding one going seriously test your skillset .
Brian
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