The beauty of being a private forum again allows me to share this a couple of hours early.  I have just finished adding them all to our website ready to go live tomorrow (or tonight if I am still up at midnight).

Thanks Hornby again for making us all work right up to Christmas, especially after dumping thousands of pounds of stock on us with just one day before Christmas.  I have already ranted to Frank Martin about that but as this is not Room 101 I will remain calm. 

Rail Express with a new editor has already released this info early and I believe that Hornby have finally had enough with them.  As they have also seriously peeved Dapol and Heljan they may only have Bachmann left willing to use their journal.

DO NOT POST ANY OF THIS INFORMATION ELSEWHERE BEFORE MIDNIGHT TONIGHT









R1151
Caledonian Belle
NEW
2nd Qtr

R1152
Flying Scotsman
NEW
2nd Qtr

R1155
Pendolino
NEW
2nd Qtr

R1153
London 2012 (L/C Javelin)
NEW
2nd Qtr

R2980
London Olympics 1908 - Limited Edition
NEW
3rd Qtr

R2981
London Olympics 1948 - Limited Edition
NEW
4th Qtr

R1160
The Cornishman
NEW
2nd Qtr

R2989XS
LMS "Duchess Of Montrose"
NEW
1st Qtr

R2990XS
BR (Red) "Helena Victoria" Princess Royal Class
NEW
1st Qtr

R2991XS
BR Blue "Sparrow Hawk" Class A4
NEW
1st Qtr

R2994XS
BR (Late) "Clun Castle" Castle Class
NEW
2nd Qtr

R2995XS
BR (Late) Black 5 (Weathered)
NEW
2nd Qtr

R3033XS
BR Railfreight Sub-Sector Class 56 "Whatley" 56 001
NEW
1st Qtr

R3036XS
BR Railfreight Class 08
NEW
1st Qtr

R3037XS
BR Green Class 08
NEW
1st Qtr

R2984
Network Rail HST - DCC Ready
NEW
2nd Qtr

R2987
Brighton Belle 1934 2 Car Pack (2 X Drive MTR. Brake 3rd)
NEW
3rd Qtr

R2987X
Brighton Belle 1934 2 Car Pack (2 X Drive MTR. Brake 3rd)
NEW
3rd Qtr

R2988
Brighton Belle 1967 2 Car Pack (2 X Drive MTR. Brake 3rd)
NEW
3rd Qtr

R2988X
Brighton Belle 1967 2 Car Pack (2 X Drive MTR. Brake 3rd)
NEW
3rd Qtr

R3059
Tornado Express Train Pack 
NEW
3rd Qtr

R2979
West Coast Railways Pullman - Limited Edition
NEW
3rd Qtr

R2985
"Duchess At Carlisle" -  B J Freeman
NEW
3rd Qtr

R2986
"A Date With The Duchy" - B J Freeman
NEW
2nd Qtr

R2998
LNER Class B1 "Roedeer" - DCC Ready
NEW
3rd Qtr

R2998X
LNER Class B1 "Roedeer"  - DCC Fitted
NEW
3rd Qtr

R2999
BR (Early) Class B1 "61138" - DCC Ready
NEW
3rd Qtr

R2999X
BR (Early) Class B1 "61138" - DCC Fitted
NEW
3rd Qtr

R3000
BR (Late) Class B1 "Sir Harold Mitchell" - DCC Ready
NEW
3rd Qtr

R3000X
BR (Late) Class B1 "Sir Harold Mitchell" - DCC Fitted
NEW
3rd Qtr

R3003
BR (Late) Class B17 "Barnsley" - DCC Ready
NEW
4th Qtr

R3003X
BR (Late) Class B17 "Barnsley" - DCC Fitted
NEW
4th Qtr

R3004
BR (Early) CLASS B17 "Serlby Hall" Weathered - DCC Ready
NEW
4th Qtr

R3004X
BR (Early) CLASS B17 "Serlby Hall" Weathered - DCC Fitted
NEW
4th Qtr

R3005
BR (Late) (Weathered) 2800 - DCC Ready
NEW
1st Qtr

R3005X
BR (Late) (Weathered) 2800 - DCC Fitted
NEW
1st Qtr

R3006
BR (Late) (Weathered) 3800 - DCC Ready
NEW
1st Qtr

R3006X
BR (Late) (Weathered) 3800 - DCC Fitted
NEW
1st Qtr

R3007
BR (Late) Thompson L1 (Weathered) - DCC Ready
NEW
1st Qtr

R3007X
BR (Late) Thompson L1 (Weathered) - DCC Fitted
NEW
1st Qtr

R3008
BR "Empire Of India" Class A4
NEW
2nd Qtr

R3011
BR Q1 0-6-0 - DCC Ready
NEW
3rd Qtr

R3011X
BR Q1 0-6-0 - DCC Fitted
NEW
3rd Qtr

R3012
BR "Merlin" A4 Circa 1959
NEW
4th Qtr

R3013
A3 With GER Tender "Coronach" 1959
NEW
2nd Qtr

R3014
LMS Black "Duchess Of Sutherland" 2010
NEW
1st Qtr

R3014X
LMS Black "Duchess Of Sutherland" 2010
NEW
1st Qtr

R3015
BR "Princess Arthur Of Connaught". BR Red
NEW
1st Qtr

R3015X
BR "Princess Arthur Of Connaught". BR Red
NEW
1st Qtr

R3016
BR (S&DJR) Standard 4 75072 - DCC Ready
NEW
2nd Qtr

R3016X
BR (S&DJR) Standard 4 75072 - DCC Fitted
NEW
2nd Qtr

R3018
BR (Late) "Scots Guardsman", Royal Scot - DCC Ready
NEW
2nd Qtr

R3018X
BR (Late) "Scots Guardsman", Royal Scot - DCC Fitted
NEW
2nd Qtr

R3021
BR (Late)  Stanier 2-6-4 Weathered
NEW
3rd Qtr

R3022
Southern Terrier 2662
NEW
1st Qtr

R3023
BR J94 4f 0-6-0t 68006
NEW
1st Qtr

R3024
BR (Early) 0f Pug 0-4-0
NEW
1st Qtr

R3026
BR (Late) 2-8-0 Class 8F (Heavily Weathered)
NEW
3rd Qtr

R3027
BR (Early) 0-4-2t 14XX
NEW
1st Qtr

R3028
BR (Late) Fowler 2P
NEW
2nd Qtr

R3029
S&DJR Fowler 2P
NEW
3rd Qtr

R3030
LMS Fowler 4F
NEW
2nd Qtr

R3031
BR Fowler 4F
NEW
3rd Qtr

R3070
British Railways Class A1 "Tornado" Special Edition
NEW
3rd Qtr

R3073
The Royal Mail: LNER A1 "Royal Lancer"
NEW
2nd Qtr

R3074
The Royal Mail: GWR "King William IV"
NEW
2nd Qtr

R3075
The Royal Mail: SR 'Sir Mador De La Port' 
NEW
2nd Qtr

R3041
Yeoman "Kenneth J. Painter" Class 59
NEW
2nd Qtr

R3042
Colas Class 66
NEW
2nd Qtr

R3044
Network Rail Class 31 - DCC Ready
NEW
1st Qtr

R3044X
Network Rail Class 31 - DCC Fitted
NEW
1st Qtr

R3045
Gatwick Livery Class 73 (73202)
NEW
1st Qtr

R3048
BR Intercity Class 08
NEW
2nd Qtr

R3049
Serco Class 08 08417 
NEW
2nd Qtr

R3050
BR (Small Arrow) Class 56 56082
NEW
2nd Qtr

R3051
EWS "Tess Steel Express" British Steel Blue Class 60 033
NEW
1st Qtr

R3052
Railfreight Sub-Sector Class 56 "Merehead" 56 031
NEW
3rd Qtr

R3053
FGW / EWS Class 90
NEW
2nd Qtr

R3054
BR (Laira Blue) Class 50 008 "Thunderer"
NEW
1st Qtr

R3057
Eddie Stobart Class 92
NEW
3rd Qtr

R3058
Freightliner Class 86/2
NEW
3rd Qtr

R3076
GBRf. Class 66/7
NEW
2nd Qtr

R3077
Freightliner Class 90
NEW
3rd Qtr

R4170E
LNER 61'6" Corridor Composite Brake
NEW
2nd Qtr

R4171C
LNER 61'6" Corridor First 
NEW
2nd Qtr

R4172D
LNER 61'6" Corridor Third
NEW
2nd Qtr

R4173D
LNER 61'6" Buffet Car
NEW
2nd Qtr

R4404A
BR Hawksworth (Pre 1953): Gangway Passenger Brake
NEW
2nd Qtr

R4405A
BR Hawksworth: (Pre 1953) Corridor 3rd.
NEW
2nd Qtr

R4406A
BR Hawksworth: (Pre 1953) Brake 3rd.
NEW
2nd Qtr

R4407A
BR Hawksworth: (Pre 1953) Composite
NEW
2nd Qtr

R4408A
BR Hawksworth: (Pre 1953) 1st / 3rd Brake
NEW
2nd Qtr

R4409A
BR Hawksworth (Post 1953): Gangway Passenger Brake
NEW
2nd Qtr

R4410A
BR Hawksworth: (Post 1953) Corridor 3rd.
NEW
2nd Qtr

R4411A
BR Hawksworth: (Post 1953) Brake 3rd.
NEW
2nd Qtr

R4412A
BR Hawksworth: (Post 1953) Composite
NEW
1st Qtr

R4413A
BR Hawksworth: (Post 1953) 1st / 3rd Brake
NEW
1st Qtr

R4452
Hitachi Class 395 Standard Open Coach
NEW
2nd Qtr

R4453
Hitachi Class 395 Standard Open Coach
NEW
2nd Qtr

R4455
West Coast Railways Pullman Car Pack
NEW
2nd Qtr

R4457
Network Rail HST Coach Pack (2 Vehicles)
NEW
2nd Qtr

R4458
Somerset & Dorset 3 Maunsell Coach Pack
NEW
2nd Qtr

R4462
BR Intercity (Swallow) Mk2D (Aircon.) 1st Class
NEW
2nd Qtr

R4463
BR Intercity (Swallow) Mk2D (Aircon.) Open Standard
NEW
2nd Qtr

R4464
BR Intercity (Swallow) Mk2D (Aircon.) Open Brake
NEW
2nd Qtr

R4466
Intercity Executive Mk3 Sleeper
NEW
2nd Qtr

R4467
BR Blue Southern Van "C"
NEW
2nd Qtr

R4468
BR Blue/Grey Gresley Teak Buffet Car
NEW
2nd Qtr

R4473
BR Maroon 0bservation Car
NEW
2nd Qtr

R4475
Pullman 12 Wheels 3rd Parlour Car
NEW
2nd Qtr

R4476
Pullman 12 Wheel 1st Kitchen
NEW
2nd Qtr

R4477
Pullman 12 Wheel Brake
NEW
3rd Qtr

R4478
Pullman 1st Class Parlour Car MB
NEW
3rd Qtr

R4479
Pullman 3rd Class Parlour Car MB
NEW
3rd Qtr

R4480
Pullman 1st Class Kitchen MB
NEW
3rd Qtr

R4481
Pullman 3rd Class Kitchen MB
NEW
3rd Qtr

R4482
Pullman 3rd Class Brake Car MB
NEW
3rd Qtr

R4483
Pullman 1st Class Parlour Car SS
NEW
3rd Qtr

R4484
Pullman 2nd Class Parlour Car SS
NEW
3rd Qtr

R4485
Pullman 1st Class Kitchen SS
NEW
3rd Qtr

R4486
Pullman 3rd Class Kitchen SS
NEW
3rd Qtr

R4487
Pullman 3rd Class Brake Car SS
NEW
2nd Qtr

R4493
BR Hawksworth (Pre 1953) First Class
NEW
2nd Qtr

R4499
BR Hawksworth (Post 1953) First Class
NEW
1st Qtr

R4500
GWR Hawksworth (1949): Gangway Passenger Brake
NEW
1st Qtr

R4501
GWR Hawksworth: (1949) Corridor 3rd.
NEW
2nd Qtr

R4502
GWR Hawksworth: (1949) Brake 3rd.
NEW
2nd Qtr

R4503
GWR Hawksworth: (1949) Composite
NEW
2nd Qtr

R4504
GWR Hawksworth: (1949) 1st / 3rd Brake
NEW
2nd Qtr

R4505
GWR Hawksworth (1949) First Class
NEW
2nd Qtr

R4512
Brighton Belle Car (Pullman Trailer 3rd)
NEW
1st Qtr

R4513
Brighton Belle Car (Pullman Trailer 1st W/Kitchen) No 1
NEW
1st Qtr

R4514
Brighton Belle Car  (Pullman Trailer 1st W/Kitchen) No 2
NEW
1st Qtr

R4515
LNER Gresley (Non Vestibuled) Suburban 1st Class
NEW
1st Qtr

R4516
LNER Gresley (Non Vestibuled) Suburban 3rd Class
NEW
1st Qtr

R4517
LNER Gresley (Non Vestibuled) Suburban Composite
NEW
1st Qtr

R4518
LNER Gresley (Non Vestibuled) Suburban 3rd Brake
NEW
1st Qtr

R4519
BR Gresley (Non Vestibuled) Suburban 1st Class
NEW
1st Qtr

R4520
BR Gresley (Non Vestibuled) Suburban 3rd Class
NEW
1st Qtr

R4521
BR Gresley (Non Vestibuled) Suburban Composite
NEW
1st Qtr

R4522
BR Gresley (Non Vestibuled) Suburban 3rd Brake
NEW
1st Qtr

R4527
Brighton Belle Car (Pullman Trailer 3rd)
NEW
1st Qtr

R4528
Brighton Belle Car (Pullman Trailer 1st W/Kitchen) No 1
NEW
1st Qtr

R4529
Brighton Belle Car  (Pullman Trailer 1st W/Kitchen) No 2
NEW
1st Qtr

R4530
LNER Gresley Full Brake 
NEW
4th Qtr

R4530A
LNER Gresley Full Brake 
NEW
4th Qtr

R4531
BR Gresley Full Brake 
NEW
4th Qtr

R4531A
BR Gresley Full Brake 
NEW
4th Qtr

R6504
BR 21 Ton Iron Ore 
NEW
2nd Qtr

R6505
BR 21 Ton Iron Ore 
NEW
2nd Qtr

R6506
BR 21 Ton Iron Ore Tippler Triple Wagon Pack (Weathered)
NEW
2nd Qtr

R6507
GWR Horse Box
NEW
2nd Qtr

R6507A
GWR Horse Box
NEW
2nd Qtr

R6508
BR 20 Ton Brake Van 
NEW
2nd Qtr

R6509
BR 20 Ton Brake Van 
NEW
2nd Qtr

R6510
Railfreight Brake Van 
NEW
2nd Qtr

R6511
PGA Triple Pack Hopper Wagon
NEW
2nd Qtr

R6512
ZFP Ballast Hopper (Trout) 3 Pack (Weathered)
NEW
2nd Qtr

R6513
City Of Birmingham Gas Dept. 8 Plank Open
NEW
2nd Qtr

R6514
"Esso" (Yellow) 14 Ton Tank Wagon
NEW
2nd Qtr

R6515
Denaby Nine Plank Mineral Wagon
NEW
2nd Qtr

R6516
"Bullcroft Main Colliery Co. Ltd." 7 Plank Wagon
NEW
2nd Qtr

R6517
"Goldendale Iron Co." 7 Plank Wagon
NEW
2nd Qtr

R6518
"Shelton Iron Steel & Coal Co. Ltd. 7 Plank Wagon
NEW
2nd Qtr

R6519
"Crook & Thompson" 6 Plank Wagon
NEW
1st Qtr

R6520
A Bramley - 5 Plank Wagon
NEW
4th Qtr

R6521
Ralls & Son - 5 Plank Wagon
NEW
4th Qtr

R6522
"Winstanley Collieries Co. Ltd." 5 Plank Wagon
NEW
3rd Qtr

R6523
"Duxbury Park Colliery" 4 Plank Wagon
NEW
3rd Qtr

R6524
"Stephens & Co" 4 Plank Wagon
NEW
1st Qtr

R6525
"Bickershaw" 4 Plank Wagon
NEW
1st Qtr

R6526
"Scatter Rock Macadams" 4 Plank Wagon
NEW
1st Qtr

R6527
"Great Central Railway" Coke Wagon
NEW
1st Qtr

R6528
"Consolidated Fisheries Ltd." 21 Ton Wagon
NEW
1st Qtr

R6529
"Manton" End Tipping Wagon
NEW
2nd Qtr

R6530
George Field & Son - End Tipping Wagon
NEW
2nd Qtr

R6533
BR Railfreight 32.5 St MGR Hopper Wagon (HAA)
NEW
2nd Qtr

R6534
Yeoman PGA Hopper Wagon
NEW
2nd Qtr

R6535
6 Wheel Milk Tanker
NEW
2nd Qtr

R6536
KFA Container Wagon Inc. Tankertainer
NEW
2nd Qtr

R6537
BR Horse Box
NEW
2nd Qtr

R6537A
BR Horse Box
NEW
2nd Qtr

R6538
GWR "Siphon G" Bogie Van
NEW
2nd Qtr

R6539
GWR "Siphon" H Bogie Van
NEW
2nd Qtr

R6540
BR TUA Carless 
NEW
2nd Qtr

R6541
TTA Total Tanker
NEW
2nd Qtr

R6542
Tiger Rail PCA 
NEW
2nd Qtr

R6543
Murco 100 Ton Tanker
NEW
2nd Qtr

R6544
ZFP Ballast Hopper (Trout) 
NEW
2nd Qtr

R6545
ZFP Ballast Hopper (Trout) 
NEW
2nd Qtr

R6547
2011 Wagon
NEW
2nd Qtr

R3060
BR Class A1 "Tornado"
NEW
3rd Qtr

R3061
GWR 4-4-0 County 
NEW
3rd Qtr

R3062
LNER 4-4-0 D19 
NEW
2nd Qtr

R3063
LMS Compound 4-4-0
NEW
2nd Qtr

R3064
BR Smokey Joe
NEW
1st Qtr

R3065
BR Class 06 Shunter
NEW
1st Qtr

R3066
GWR Class 2721 Pannier
NEW
1st Qtr

R3067
BR Class 31
NEW
1st Qtr

R3068
BR Class 42
NEW
1st Qtr

R4523
GWR Composite Coach
NEW
2nd Qtr

R4524
GWR Brake Coach
NEW
2nd Qtr

R4525
GWR Restaurant Coach
NEW
2nd Qtr

R4526
Night Mail Operating Mail Coach
NEW
2nd Qtr

R8144
RailMaster DCC CD-Rom
NEW
 

R8145
Track-Master CD-Rom
NEW
 

R9643
Thatched Cottage (Unpainted)
NEW
1st Qtr

R9644
Small Townhouse (Unpainted)
NEW
1st Qtr

R9645
Bungalow (Unpainted)
NEW
1st Qtr

R9646
Derelict Farmhouse
NEW
1st Qtr

R9647
Derelict Farm Buildings: Barn
NEW
1st Qtr

R9648
Derelict Farm Buildings: Stable
NEW
1st Qtr

R9649
Derelict Farm Buildings: Outhouse
NEW
1st Qtr

R9650
Country Garage
NEW
1st Qtr

R9651
Wind Turbine
NEW
1st Qtr

R9652
Public House
NEW
1st Qtr

R9653
Chapel
NEW
1st Qtr

R9654
Restaurant
NEW
1st Qtr

R9655
The Corner Shop
NEW
1st Qtr

R9656
Low Relief Shop Front. A
NEW
1st Qtr

R9657
Low Relief Shop Front. B
NEW
1st Qtr

R9658
Workshops
NEW
1st Qtr

R9659
Industrial Building
NEW
1st Qtr

R9660
Low Relief 3 Arch Viaduct
NEW
1st Qtr

R9661
Factory 
NEW
1st Qtr

R9662
Modern Factory Front
NEW
1st Qtr

R9663
GWR Lock Up Hut
NEW
1st Qtr

R9664
GWR Radley Signal Box
NEW
1st Qtr

R9665
GWR Lamp Hut
NEW
1st Qtr

R9666
GWR Station
NEW
1st Qtr

R9667
GWR Engine Shed
NEW
1st Qtr

R9668
Tunnel Vents x 2
NEW
1st Qtr

R9669
GWR Girder Bridge
NEW
1st Qtr

R9670
Platelayers Hut (Sleepers)
NEW
1st Qtr

R9671
GWR Water Column & Crane
NEW
1st Qtr

R9672
LMS Lamp Hut
NEW
1st Qtr

R9673
Cycle Cabinets
NEW
1st Qtr

R9674
Dent Snow Huts
NEW
1st Qtr

R9675
Thatched Cottage
NEW
1st Qtr

R9676
Tandoori Takeaway
NEW
1st Qtr

R9677
Herbert Lenz - Optician
NEW
1st Qtr

R9678
E. Williams Ladies Outfitters
NEW
1st Qtr

R9679
Traction Shed.
NEW
1st Qtr

R9680
Dent Station
NEW
2nd Qtr

R9700
Log Load (3 Pieces) Suitable for OTA
NEW
1st Qtr

R9701
Log Load (2 Pieces) Suitable for OTA
NEW
1st Qtr

R9682
Percy & The Mail Train Set
NEW
2nd Qtr

R9683
Dart
NEW
4th Qtr

R9684
Murdoch
NEW
2nd Qtr

R9685
British Stamps: Thomas
NEW
3rd Qtr

R9686
British Stamps: Percy
NEW
3rd Qtr

R9687
British Stamps: James
NEW
3rd Qtr

R9688
Lime Wagon - Grey
NEW
2nd Qtr

R9689
Lime Wagon - Brown
NEW
2nd Qtr

R9690
Works Unit Van
NEW
2nd Qtr

R9691
Breakdown Crane
NEW
2nd Qtr

R9692
Station & Platform
NEW
2nd Qtr

R9693
Signal Box
NEW
2nd Qtr

R9694
Water Tower & Crane
NEW
2nd Qtr

R9695
Engine Shed
NEW
2nd Qtr

R9696
Goods Shed
NEW
2nd Qtr

R9697
Footbridge
NEW
2nd Qtr

R9698
Platform With Canopy
NEW
2nd Qtr

R8070A
Modelling Plaster Bandages (Mod-Roc)
NEW
 

 

I have no more information until I visit Hornby on 5th January.  I am fairly sure that Bachmann will be peeved at them duplicating Tornado and I cannot see why they have bothered given that Bachmann have sold thousands already.

The Brighton Belle is an interesting choice!

Intercity coaches will be popular but can they really not be doing the FGW Sleeper?  Perhaps I might finally be able to persuade them to do a special commission for me this year…

The brighton belle is a very interesting one better flog your wrenn ones quick before midnight

Brian

I will just have to win the lottery now with all that new gear.

Great to see all the LNER stuff.  Is that why the B1 Gazelle was reduced this week Chris? 

Doesn't bother me that I ordered one from you though, as man can never have too many B1's…..:cool:

…..and Gresley Surburbans are a big plus.  :thumbs

 

Leaves a lot of holes for traders who commission limited editions...........!!??

The release of the Green Warship in the Railroad range is good news, as no doubt Hornby will make it DCC ready and add their new motor.

Bob(K)

Gordon, the B1 was on my clearance list anyway as the cabinet that houses Bachmann steam locos was full!  Seeing that and the new Class 67 from Hornby gave me two more to get rid of pronto!

Correct Fidge, Hornby seem to be in "Get Bachmann" mode this year.  While they are busy squabbling I can get on with some of my projects (which may include some coaches to go with O2s…)

Novice, that Warship will be a waste of time.  No flush glazing, no working lights and an inaccurate body, all for just £10 less than the Bachmann version?

Thanks Chris for taking the time to post up all these details at a time of year when family traditionally comes first and the business after that and before niceties such as our little club.

I do appreciate the effort involved.  One of the disbenefits of living down under is the time difference; while the foaming hordes will have logged on to Hornby / RMweb and other such sites at precisely midnight it was 11am here when the information was released and some of use were already out and attending to other business of the day.

The choice of the "Lima" Warship is very curious given that - as Chris says - a far more accurate and no doubt better-running model can be had for little more in a blue box rather than a red one.  The choice of "Tornado" has elicited no small amount of comment over on RMweb, most of it wondering why they would bother but pointing out that the "Railroad" (i.e. kiddies train-set) version will be rather cheaper than the Bachmann one, albeit not as detailed either if most Railroad items are anything to go by.

The Brighton Belle seems to have been an open secret in certain circles; with a late 2011 release date it would be reasonable to assume that the cars were laser-scanned during the past 18 months or so and that a few people would have put 2 and 2 together but been sworn to secrecy.  Or at least sworn to not drop anything more than foam-drenched hints.

I suspect it will sell very well though it is very far from cheap.  The prices do not compare at all favourably with the 4-car Hornby Vep due now in April (a full 5-car Belle unit will be roughly double that price) and even the two-car power + dummy "motor coach" set is double the price of the 2-car Bachmann EPB and significantly more than Chris's own 2H "Thumper" commission which will have the R&D costs spread over a smaller number of pieces.  Hornby Pullmans contain exquisite detail but that has so far only put them at around a 33% premium over "normal" coaches, not nigh on 100%.

Costs and VAT have risen and I accept both must be factored in but at around £300 RRP (though listed at somewhat lower prices from your friendly local model shop) for the 5-car unit there will be more than a few interested modellers who might consider it a price hike too far.

For me the only item going straight on the shopping list is the blue/grey Gresley buffet and even then I'd want to see it first to make sure it won't look horribly inferior to the Bachmann Mk1's it would run with.  I am not a great lover of Hornby coaches when we can obtain much better for the same price elsewhere.

I want the diesel loco shed, a class 56 and a class 50 in BR blue. :thumbsWhat does "Laira blue" mean - is this BR blue - maybe someone could explain?

I am a bit disapointed that there is no class 08 in BR blue. I thougth this to be a popular and useful loco in this livery as it lasted very long on class 08 locos but maybe the market is saturated. Still hope for next year.

At last a class 31 in unweathered BR blue and then its he Railroad one:Red Card Why did they bring it always in weathered livery?

However a very diverse range should make lots of people very happy.

Now I better start saving for the Brighton Belle, both of them would be nice but at this price probably will buy the later version only.

Thomas

 

'Laira blue' was not standard BR blue and was used on 50008 (and 50019 I think) at the end of their working lives.

The fotopic sites should give you an idea of the difference in colour between BR blue and 'Laira blue'.  It isn't that big a difference in my opinion.

Andrew

Laira blue as per our website



One of the versions that we asked for as a limited edition to be told that they were not interested because they could sell thousands of them.  Eight years on and it is finally released!

Is Laira blue linked to Plymouth Laira or am i wrong there?

Brighton Belle models there was also a blue and white one in the Wrenn range the collection 100 yds from me has both the brown and cream and the blue and white versions.

Brian

Yes Brian - Plymouth (Laira) depot turned out a couple of 50's in non-standard blue and non-standard trimmings as well as per the Hornby illustration used by Chris.

The Brighton Belle units were repainted and had a bit of a refresh (not as much as a full facelift or refurbishment) in 1968-9 IIRC and emerged in near-standard blue/grey livery.  The car names and numbers on the side panels were replaced with "Brighton Belle" in white stick-on lettering which also lowered the tone of the thing though they were retained on the inlaid wood panels internally.  

Hornby indicate their releases will be in "1934" and "1967" versions.  I am advised that the 1967 will be blue-grey but recall that they were still in Pullman livery at that time.  In 1934 they carried unit numbers 2051-3 having had the extra 1000 added sometime late that year to then carry the better-known 3051-3 set numbers which they retained until their April 1972 withdrawal.

[user=200]Christrerise[/user] wrote:

Novice, that Warship will be a waste of time.  No flush glazing, no working lights and an inaccurate body, all for just £10 less than the Bachmann version?

Have I missed something Chris? Can you now get a green type 42 warship from Bachmann?:hmm

Les

Les

Bachmann have done an all green warship in the past.  I have 'Eclipse' in that livery.

You can only get it secondhand these days.

The point that Chris is making is that the Lima warship, now released by Hornby, was pretty basic.

 

Andrew

Thanks Andrew. I guess that confirms that you cant get a new green Type 42 warship though, which in my view is a glaring hole in the market. Is this a marketing opportunity for someone?roll::roll::roll::roll:

Les

About time you bought an Airbrush Les lots of green warships then

Brian

In terms of the all-new market (in order to compare apples with apples since there are plenty of oranges on the second-hand market) we have the choice of a superbly detailed model which runs extremely well across the range of speeds and hauls just about as much as you can hook up to it.

Available in maroon or blue but not yet in green though the Bachmann 2011 announcement is due in February and there might be something of interest in that.

And we have a basic, less accurate and potentially less capable locomotive retailing at almost the same price.  Without knowing which power unit Hornby intends to use in the former Lima product we cannot comment upon its performance.  Suffice to say the Lima ones relied on pancake motors, traction tyres and wouldn't pull skin off a custard most of the time.  They also had two speeds namely "Stall" and "Hare" with no finesse over the control.  We can only hope that Hornby will have somehow improved upon this though at the price tag offered when compared with their more competent diesel offerings I have my doubts.

And this will be available in green.

I guess you pays money and takes choice.  I would also be tempted to see if Bachmann offer a green one from their existing and excellent tooling before taking the plunge on the Hornby one.  If the good people of Barwell feel aggrieved that their A1 "Tornado" model has somehow been eclipsed by the announcement from Margate of the same item they might find a production slot for something to hit back with …..

It's a thought.

Les don't touch it!  The Bachmann one will be far better.  If Bachmann do not list a green one this year I will have one made, but I would be very surprised if they did not as it would be due this year, probably with another maroon one if I was to guess.

I would like a blue small yellow panel class 42. But could be persuaded to go for a red one, too.

Thomas