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 Posted: Mon Feb 18th, 2013 09:59 pm
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Thanks for your encouragement Sol.  I hope you're right and, no doubt once I start to get into the wiring rather than reading about it, with enough help,  I'll learn what works and what triggers a blue flash .............:roll::roll:

Like most things done for the first time, it's daunting ...............:???:



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It is daunting Peter and without Trevor Gibbs' and Sol's help I wouldn't have had a clue.   Once I started most things fell into place very quickly and I now have quite a good understanding of the electrical side of things.    May I suggest you jump right in and start on some wiring; you'll be amazed how it all falls into place whereas thinking too much about it in advance seems to create self doubt (and I'm an expert on that! :oops::roll: ).

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I've now completed all 21 of my manual point controls - based on Sol's method but incorporating some ideas of my own - so I'm going to post a seperate "how I did it" which I hope will be of interest.     You'll see that I'm able to put the baseboard on it's side for access and as I made it to overlap the cupboard upon which it rests by 50mm this enables me to have the controls underneath and out of sight.    In the meantime here's a photo to hopefully whet your interest:-




My next job will be connecting all the wiring to the controller and the switchboard and as you can see it's very easy to get at! :cool:

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Now you've got me thoroughly wet Ken, I can't wait for the "How to". :thumbs

It looks extremely neat - both topside and underneath.  I've got a lot to learn I fear ..............:cry::cry: 



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A wiring update: you'll see I have put in a long terminal block - plus a smaller one to be added underneath it for the fiddle yard wires - and my control board will be immediately above this, fitted to the edge of the baseboard.  I have now soldered all the wires to the control board before fixing it into position and then I'll simply join all these to the terminal blocks - see the picture of "spaghetti junction" below!   Also, note how the bottom chocblocks holding the point control rods also accomodate the wiring joins from the droppers - I'm really pleased with that bit of forethought!!!!!  

Incidentally, the baseboard will be positioned about a foot to the right of where it is now so the wiring block section (which is unencumbered by any point control rods) will be to the right of the drawer plus my controller is going to rest facing upwards at an angle in the drawer so all nicely to hand, also I'll be able to reach all of the point controls when sitting in front of same.  







 

I had to use the same colour wires in some places as I only have 11 different ones but I do know where the all have to be connected! ;-)
 
The next photo shows how I can operate the point control rods quite easily due to me overlapping the baseboard by a couple of inches from it's supporting cupboard, thus they are all hidden.
 


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HI Ken

As your consulting (or is it insulting...) engineer from the Antipodes, Might I suggest that you use making tape and label near the ends of the wires and using insulating tape, strategically tape the wires together to form a loom.  
That will give your wiring a bit more strength in the event of an accident and avoid the spaghetti junction effect. Even if you group 5 or 6 wires together over 4 runs, it would look a lot better...

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The "hidden" point operating rods is a neat idea Ken.



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Yes I'd already thought of that Trevor plus I've allowed excess wire in case of having to repair any possible broken bits etc.   Once it's all connected to the terminal blocks it will look much neater but I thought it was fun to show it like this in it's raw state so to speak.

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I completed all my wiring not long after my last posting and then tested everything, much to my surprise it all worked ok!   However I found that some of my Ebay bought locos were not running properly (all my new ones were ok) so with the knowledge of other forum members I had to spend a lot of time in correcting faults, cleaning and generally refurbishing them.   A couple of them still tend to jump a bit or hesitate when going over points but although I'll keep trying to correct this I think I'll just have to live with it as I want to get on with actual modelling!  ;-)

Anway, here's some pictures of the control board and controller plus the rear of the former and under baseboard showing the completed connections; it still looks a bit spaghetti junctionish but "out of site is out of mind" as the saying goes!!!   The main thing is it all works well, it's easy to get at - the baseboard is very stable and lifts easily onto it's side - and every connection is clearly marked and colour coded.











Now that this is completed I can get down to my real love, ie., the scenic work, and I'm really looking forward to this.

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Having seen what you are capable of in past topics I'm looking forward to it too!

Did you bother with frog switching in the end? I've been running NE for four or five years now, haven't done any frog switching and never really seem to have any problems.

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I don't have a pond anymore Marty! :lol::lol::lol:     Sorry, couldn't resist it.........   :roll:

I don't know what frog switching is so could you clue me up please?    (One thing I really like with the electrfrog points is that I can hold a loco anywhere on the other track leading off from any point irrespective of it's section being live; very useful particularly for my quarry which is off of the mainline and doesn't have it's own section switch).

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We've had some pretty good weather over the past couple of months and although I've been out quite a lot plus catching up on the gardening chores I have managed to start working on the quarry area and the hills running along the backscene.   I decided to do this with card formers and strips rather than using chunks of packaging foam (although I've used this for support in areas where there will be trees etc) as I actually like creating the "skeleton" in this way even though it takes a lot more work and time!   I'm not yet sure how I'm going to cover it; I may use Marty's method or perhaps utilise 3 inch paper squares as I did with my quarry diorama, anway, here's some pictures:-

No.1:  I used corrugated card (instead of MDF or Ply etc) as it's quite strong when glued on 2 sides and there will not be any heavy items in this area.



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Mine entrance etc.


No 3:

Have you ever tried glueing 6 sections at once? !!!


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Foam in place.


No. 5:

Added cross strips (at 12.15 last night!   I could have gone on for hours as I was enjoying it so much!).




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Hi Ken,
Your ears must have been burning as I was thinking of you yesterday and wondering how the layout was getting on... I need not have worried about any problems and I like your pix and tutorial.
Frog switching is when you have a slide switch or similar connected to your points connected with wire so that you change the polarity of the frog as you change your points. The cheaper slide switches are mainly used for that. I'll get a diagram up if necessary.
Good to see you about!
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G'day Ken,

Just read up on the whole thread and looking foward to more, especially the landscaping, which is probably my favourite tasks on building a layout. Good to see the control panel sorted out, regardless of the spaghetti junction. Afterall, it is only you who needs to know where they all go ! Will be following with interest.

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Ken, I've just read through the whole of this thread. You've made some brilliant progress, and the wiring you've done looks spot on. I keep putting off doing the wiring on Tedderton 'for real', and now regret not getting it all sorted at the outset. I'm looking forward to seeing Coombe Hinton progressing.

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Hi Ken
Just to clarify the "switched frog" issue ... at least I hope it does...
It backs up the contact of the blades on the outer rails. You can use any extra contacts on the switch for basic signalling

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Thanks for the nice comments Gary and Mike plus Trevor of course who is my "font of all knowledge" when it comes to all things electrical!  

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First picture shows the station area completed with card strips etc:-




I then thought I would try a new method (for me) of using plaster bandage to cover the strips but didn't like this at all!   The bandage went on ok but retains a lot of water and I thought the strips might tend to degrade as it takes at least 24 hours to set.    They didn't but I went back to my old method of using kitchen paper towels cut into 2 inch squares which are then placed onto the previously glued strips (using the usual PVA/Water/W.up L. ballast mixture) in a sort of haphazard manner until an area about 8 x 8 inches is covered with several layers thick, each square having the glue brushed well in as they are added - and I really enjoy doing this!.   You can see where the two methods meet in the picture below

The following 2 pictures show the first squares being laid then the completed section (incidentally the masking tap at the bottom is holding down some clear plastic film to protect the track etc).:-






The next 2 pictures show  it at the half-way then the completed stage:-





This all makes for a very strong structure which is now ready for the plaster - actually I'll be using Artex - to be added and for the rock formations etc to be formed from same.

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Hi Ken, thanks for posting the photo's, looks like a lot of hard work you've put into your landscape to date, you must get a whole lot of satisfaction when it's finished. Keep the photo's coming, I for one am looking forward to the finished scenery.

 

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HI Ken,  
I can't believe how NEATLY you seem to work... oh how I wish I could but I seem to be a dirt and dust magnet!!! Well Done Mate! Have you actually operated trains as per a timetable etc to try stuff out?
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