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 Posted: Mon Mar 19th, 2012 06:49 am
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Hi All,

I have been doing a couple of sheds in the fashion of the Tri-ang Engine shed ... touch up work is not one of my better attributes as my close vision etc is not good. As well there are now a few signal boxes for the club layout using the same basic techniques.

I worked out roughly what the Triang shed was proportioned to and made a drawing based on what I thought I would need. I changed my mind mid stream to Card for the ends and roof.

Here is roughly what I have been doing


This shows 2 of the engine sheds... the third for the local club layout may need to be an extension of this pattern... or may be the guys wil decide they would rather have a different pattern...

The sides were printed on single label A4 paper (about $25 for 120 sheets here) and mounted on 3mm foam core board, then cut out. The corners were gusseted for strength.

The ends roof and windows were just straight card.




I got  some laser Overhead transparency sheets and made the panes on Open Office draw program. It is put together with furniture grade PVA but I am not seeing it all that well. It will need a bit of touch up...

One thing I did do was try using 30% gray scale so that I could get the visibility  behind the windows but rather clouded... ever seen a workshop you can actually see in??? 

I am actually making three of these, for myself, for my local club and also for my other clubs exhibition layout under construction. This shows it under "pressure" and drying. I used a smoky gray colour to paint the card and ends in the "Aqueous" line.




The foam core and card were all gratis from our local picture framer so the over all cost is probably about $3-4 each all up.

I also made some foam core signal boxes using screen dumps of a signal box from Auran Trainz and making them into stickers on the single sheet A4 label paper. They are not super detailed as such but look fairly photo real close up and the members can add details later, or may be they will never be done.




I labelled them for the individual points on the club layout and effective they can look too!




Hope you enjoy this ...

Trevor


 


 

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 Posted: Mon Mar 19th, 2012 06:32 pm
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I like that signal box Trevor..........it looks neat. :cheers



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Have you thought about getting one of those headband magnifiers Trevor. I have one and find it a great help. like the idea of the self adhesive paper .



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Thanks Peter and Sparky, I do have a head band magnifier but my focal length (my eyes as well as its) is awfully close. I actually have to use the visor to split the label from its backing and then change back to my glasses.

I also made a main station for the club layout using the same technique as the signal boxes with the label paper and an Auran Trainz screen dump of the Adelaide station building which they call a main station.

I am looking at using some "3D" downpipes to give the buildings a texture. Also I actually did the Triang trick and put the two engine sheds end for end on my layout and I must say it looked OK particularly with the smoky windows!

If I can send the attachment, I am quite happy to share the print.I used Open Office drawing program but save it as a PDF ... for now if you are interested, PM me...

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From Trevor - QUOTE:- "I also made some foam core signal boxes using screen dumps of a signal box from Auran Trainz and making them into stickers on the single sheet A4 label paper".  UNQUOTE.

How did you go about this screen dump Trevor?   I've also got Trainz and would like to try this and presumably they could be printed on to any type of pape?

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Hi Ken,

Yes they can but the label paper is good for this. In a nutshell

1. Open up PAINT and then Trainz. Go to Surveyor mode.

2. You may like to texture the ground with some green grass on a single Trainz baseboard.

3, Select your building from Trainz and place it so that the face that you want is facing south in your case being in the Northern hemisphere/North in mine. Rotate either yourself or the building as you zoom in on it to fill most of the screen. Strangely enough there seems to be a difficulty in getting exactly square.

4. Press your "Print Screen" button and Alt Tab and toggle your way into Paint.

5. In Paint press Control V keys together and your printed screen will appear in paint. Select the area you want and move it to the top left hand corner of paint. Save as "face 1" or whatever

6. Because there is a "sun" in Trainz rotate your building and get all faces in "sunlight" Repeat steps 4 and 5

7, Scale the individual drawings on Publisher, Word, Open Office or whatever you have making sure your corners align size wise. With the boxes I did the angular ends in foam core first then cut the front and rear pieces to as exact a size as you can using your drawing as gauge and glue the pieces together to act as a base.

I just used card or thin styrene for the roof also glued. I printed out textured sheet for the roof covering and simply stuck it on with the label paper. I could have cut slate tiles into strips but I did not bother.

If you need any more info, let me know!

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Great stuff Trevor and very well explained, thank you.  

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HI All, I meant to add that the "compass" that Trainz uses could find its way into your pictures and you may need to copy and paste similar sections to "blot it out" once you are back in Paint.

I left the ones in the signal box windows alone but it is a quick job otherwise,

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I have put up the file as a PDF of the Signal Box(es)and Peter has a copy of them. I would be interested how these "scale out" as to me they look about English proportions... They are certainly small on my HO layout anyway!

Sending these to a friend locally gave them a different size.
Feedback would be appreciated about the sizes perhaps by PM
I may upload the 4 sides of these buildings once I get the nuances of my browser OK. I did the engine shed directly on Open Office drawing which is fun.

Regards

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There is a free Ezine here in Australia from http://www.nscale.org.au/nsm which shows in issue No 9 making "block buildings" using Word and/or publisher or like me whatever you have.

It's N scale but that is not a problem, it is very good and you get another perspective rather than me explain what I did.

Between the two, you should be able to make quite a lot, quite quickly in fact!

Whatever you do, have fun!

Trevor

Note that the number was corrected for the Issue from 10 to 9... apologies that I got that wrong...

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I'll let you know how it scales up Trevor as soon as I've printed it off - (waiting for a delivery from Ink Club at present :cry::cry:)



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I have been at it again...

Those who have seen my website have possibly seen the "yellow peril"staion at my "Reginald Bridge"  which has just been decommissioned in favour of a slightly smaller building...




The platform is unpainted but is simply another bit of foam core which will become a concrete grey...

 




This is it from under having only just been made in about an hour this afternoon... I spent longer doing the artwork and definitely longer waiting for the PVA to set... the old building is just in the background...




This is the single unit loco shed ala the Triang one but it will be replaced by a 5 unit shed shown below which I am making for the local club. This one will join the other single shed on an exhibition Thomas layout being built by my other club... they fit quite well together, Mine and the local club unit will look like this




THe 5 units seems to be a good compromise space wise .. for me at least!

If you are able to use Open Office I can send you the original file. I used the extra space for other buildings but they were fronts in different scales for our local club layout. I have put up the PDF for now and an edit or two should get some pix up...

Hope they fire you up!

 

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Hi al

Courtesy of another news group I am in, this web site came to light and it looks to be very useful

From "Richard"

http://paperbrick.co.uk/index.php?action=home

many styles of brick patterns, brick colours, mortar colours, brick sizes, print-out in many scales "built in" (excuse pun) so no extra scaling required.

Do Note: Donations are requested

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xdford wrote: http://paperbrick.co.uk/index.php?action=home


 

WARNING!!!   I clicked on this link and nothing came up on the PDF file - screen was blank - so I then clicked on the "download" box and a VIRUS was immediately discovered!!!

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Thanks for the warning Ken but I tried it without a problem... have you got Norton on your system by any chance?

Norton seems to be a panic merchant program so I will be interested to see what comes of others approach,

Cheers

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I have tried it too without a problem and I think it's a terrific site and I will definitely be using it in the future. It's also going straight in the Forum Index.



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No problems with AVG.



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No I don't have Norton Trevor (I used to have AVG and recently changed to another free one (on the advice of my local PC engineer) namely, Panda Cloud and it really is tremendous ------ and different!

I just tried it again and it still shows no image at all in the PDF file, also the "download" button no longer appears!!!!!

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I have also downloaded a designed sheet and scanned it for viruses and it came up clean so I don't think there's much wrong with the link.



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Thanks Bob and Max...

Ken what browser are you using? The PDF comes up in another tab or Window and it can then be saved...

Work out what you would like and I can download it for you and send it off list!

Regards

Trevor

PS... how is the wiring going?

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