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Hi

For some time now I have been building my new scratchbuilt loco which is based on the 4 that were built in Taunton, Mass, USA by the 'Wm. Mason Machinery Works' for the Denver South Park & Pacific RR., in 1880.

They were also the largest narrow gauge locos that they built, being 2 8 6 locos.

The final part was the addition of the specially made transfers; they were designed in Australia, printed in Arizona USA, and put on by me in the UK - very much a worldwide effort!   That could also be applied to the loco and its parts as well. They show the loco as delivered .


Here are some photos of the results



Driver's side



Fireman's side



Rear of the loco, it is 28.5 inches long



The cab interior, American cabs seem to be very large, this is not necessarily the case, in quite a few cases the firebox occupies a lot of the c, sometime extending right to the rear wall, this one is reasonable but there is not much space for the driver (at the top) and the fireman (bottom and rear) pof the cab.

My apologies for the sloppy typing in the title for this post - perhaps the moderators can correct it please - I cannot see a way, alas,  to correct it myself.

Yours Peter.

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Beautiful photographs of a beautiful model Peter. Love it.



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Hi Robert,

Thanks for the kind comment, much appreciated.

Here is another photo of the loco and a short train occupying most of the short trestle.  The vehicles behind the loco are all scratch built, except for the modified Bachmann bogies under the first two.




The train is all scratch built with the first large boxcar being the largest that the Denver & South Park ever built - it was also one of my first scratch built boxcars  - it was built to move Charcoal (for iron making) which was produced in beehive shaped ovens by the side of the tracks.  Later the received standard gauge trucks so were lost to the Narrow Gauge. They were almost satndard gauge size because of the lightness of the loads for them.

The centre car is one of my number of flatcars which vary in (scale) vlength from 23 to 30 feet long, they are very easy to make.

The yellow vehicle at the end is an American guards van - called a 'Way Car'  a term from the Easy of America, that vehicle has a sprung underframe and rides very smoothly. There will be another one built and that will be in the almost universal colour the railroads used - red oxide.

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That trestle looks good Peter. Are you using card or plastic for your rolling stock scratchbuilding?



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Hi Robert,

I think you mean plasticard?   That is used for trim, and for walls etc (the thicker stuff) I use mainly 5mm  PVC solid foam. One make and there are others is Vekaplan, and I use their SF range 

weblink     http://www.vekaplan.de/vekaplan/divers/en/lieferuebersicht_vekaplan_sf.htm

That is quite dense; locally I have a friend who can get offcuts which are of a softer density so much easier to cut. Cutting is by small circular saw (Proxxon KS230 - I wouldn't be without it! ), or Stanley knife.

I started off with a plywood inner covered with scribed plasticard (the ply came from a closing down model shop so I had it available. I would also use smooth plasticard and scribe it with an Olfa cutter generally 1mm thick. Boxcar roofs would be 1.5mm plasticard or from a friend 1.5mm PVC sheet from the centre (to make windows)  of a PVC faced door: again scribed after fitting.

Flatcar floors are 3mm PVC solid foam sheet; the stringers are from softwood cut to size, all glue is Evo-stik.  Truss rods (no buckles my period is before those - the (full size) truss rods  were end to end and tightened on the end beams. coaches are different they have them so they can be either bought or made from bits of tube etc.

PVC solid foam has also been used on my last bridge for the 'timbers' with welding rods and steel tube (hidden underneath its very strong and 4 foot long then painted with household paint.

Buildings - PVC solid foam, or plastic corrugated cardboard (that sounds like a misnomer -it is  - but its a good description - its the stuff estate agents use. It was 5mm thick, its now 3mm I think from looks round locally, so its a 'good job' I have some in stock! It can be bought for cash from Screen printers, that the estate agents use. Windows are 2 layers of 1/2mm plasticard assemble on a jig.  

Roofs - shed felt (the thin stuff) or corrugated (aluminium sheet )  or 1.5 or 2mm plasticard with plenty of supports.

That generally covers most things, boilers use water watse pipe, sealant cartridge tubes and such like.

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A fantastic job there Peter.

Keep the pics coming.



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Congratulations on your achievement - the loco looks brilliant and the best thing is its all your own work. 

I have no skill in the scratchbuilding department so all my locos and rolling stock are kit built or RTR.

Excellent work
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Scratchbuilding locomotives and stock to this standard????

AAaaaaghhhhh.......[runs screaming from the room, in case it's made compulsory]

Very nice indeed [thinks....thank goodness for Messrs Hornmannpol]

Doug

More sensibly, where do you source the carriage bogies?



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That's a stunning loco Peter and sitting on a stunning trestle :thumbs

I've got the garden, if only I had the skill, the money and a more understanding partner .................................:roll::roll::roll::cheers



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dooferdog wrote: Scratchbuilding locomotives and stock to this standard????

AAaaaaghhhhh.......[runs screaming from the room, in case it's made compulsory]

Very nice indeed [thinks....thank goodness for Messrs Hornmannpol]

Doug

More sensibly, where do you source the carriage bogies?
Hi,

 I take it that you are looking for American coach bogies?  If so LGB sell them, granted they are a bit of a short wheelbase  - 4 foot instead of 5 foot as under the Accucraft coaches but otherwise quite good.

One supplier is Dragon G scale here is a link    http://www.dragon-gscale.co.uk/lgb-nproducts210curpage-5-210-c.asp

You will need whee4ls as well, and possibly couplers.

Yours Peter.

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Thank you, Peter, nothing definite at the moment but I have a 'whimsey'.....

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