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 Posted: Thu Jan 31st, 2008 12:12 am
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Darren - I return to the valley flashings - sorry I forgot the earlier picture of them being fitted - how do you print them off using excel ? Is there a function to colour the columns ? I've only used excel as a normal B/W spreadsheet :oops: :oops:

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Petermac, excel can not only add colour but patterns also. See screenshot for adding colour :




Some straightforward instructions can also be found here for adding colour and patterns :

http://www.ehow.com/how_2020053_add-background-excel.html        Defunct Link


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Thanks for that Darren - these computers are amazing things - I could never do that on my old abacus !!! :lol: :lol: :lol:

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I can't even do it on my NEW abacus. :cry: :cry: :cry:

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Les wrote:I can't even do it on my NEW abacus. :cry: :cry: :cry:

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Back to the bargeboards tommorrow now that work is finished for the week..



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Have now installed the bargeboards - there was a fair bit of cutting and finessing to get them looking consistent. Need to let the whole lot dry before sanding/getting trial fit for gutters.

In the meantime back to the structure proper and I have now repaired the rear of the building where the mid section and end wall had come away from one another. (see the first pic below) I had to remove the door unit (see it to the left on the second pic below - it needs a little tweak anyway as door lintle is too thick) so that I could get the mini clamps in place to glue a stronger joints (i had used white glue on this originally but had not yet discovered the joys of using the Aleenes sticky glue which is not only stronger but can take flexing etc)









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darrenscots wrote:...........i had used white glue on this originally but had not yet discovered the joys of using the Aleenes sticky glue which is not only stronger but can take flexing etc).....

Ah- sticky glue. I've always found that to be the best! :wink: :roll: :lol: :lol:

This project is an absolute cracker. Whilst I'm not into 'cardboard boxes' ([size=9]sorry :? ) myself, I have to admit that you are going to end up with a model to be proud of, Darren. I doubt if I will ever venture into the realms of card modelling to the degree that you and Bob (amongst others) have done, albeit superbly, but I have to concede that it looks almost as good as a plastikard one! :wink: :roll: :roll:

All joking apart, I think you have shown anyone thinking of starting out in card modelling just what can be achieved with patience.

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Darren - judging by the clamps you are using, that building must be pretty darned strong !! Looks wonderful. :wink:

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I can't believe those clamps!!!! You would think it would crush the card. Am I not thinking right? Is card that strong!!! I would never be able to do that with the models I have been making, but they are like 1/10th the size of yours.

Great job too, I like the pealing paint on the door!!!

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Thank you for the positive encouragement. Wayne re the clamps, they are mini type and can be finely adjusted to give firm (but not not necessarily crushing) pressure. I think I bought them at Wal-Mart.

I fabricated the gutters (see the silver mini-screw driver in the pic (as modified with a file a la Perry fashion) and downpipes. I used an old disposable noodle bowl with hot water to make the round tube pliable before bending the downpipes (i tried the hair drier but this was unwieldy)









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Got stuck into painting the bargeboards, gutters and downpipes. Tried test panel with Dark Blue but didnt like the look so went for flat black instead.









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What a fantastic build, been following this with a keen interest. Well done on this project its truly amazing to be honest, what you can build out of card is amazing these days.
Just a quick question, would card and plastic card models look out of place together on a layout, all be it they would be apart from each other?.
Only wondering as i am toying doing a plastercard model but i also have load of card models as well.
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I echo what Phil says Darren a fantastic build :) Phil I have plastik kits and card kits together on layout even a couple of skale dale buildings aswell if you detail the card kits ( gutters downpipes etc ) they dont look out of place with the others .



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What a great looking project!!! I love the detail work too. I think the detail makes the model. So many times I've seen models built and just not "completely" finished. Not so with this one! Superb!!!

Can you tell me what diameter are your downspouts?

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Spent the morning trial fitting the gutters and drainpipes again (I had made the downpipes overlength just in case....)

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Wayne the materials i have used (please note that these are larger than prototypical but I can live with it) :
1. Downpipe : 2.5mm (0.100") Rod
2. Gutter : 3.2mm (0.125") Half Round

phill wrote:
Just a quick question, would card and plastic card models look out of place together on a layout, all be it they would be apart from each other?.
Only wondering as i am toying doing a plastercard model but i also have load of card models as well.
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My opinion for what its worth, is that I agree with Brian(G) and Wayne, the key thing is what the building looks like including details - I have seen some Hornby "toy" like buildings that have been subsequently superdetailed to make them look realistic. I take my inspiration from the likes of Pendon : http://www.pendonmuseum.com/modelling/techniques/index.html
and also the Inversnecky and Drambuie layout started after the WWII and scratchbuilt well before the fantastic modelling aids that we have today :
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In addition I am also a believer that there is no right material - its what looks right to the builder for the job envisaged (and these can be the most inexpensive material(s)). Right now the materials I have used so far on the Tain Railway Station build are (i am sure I have forgotten something):

Paper
Card (Various Thicknesses)
Brass
Aluminium
Styrene
Wood
Acetate

The reality is that I could have purchased some of the items ready-made but being in the US meant I had limited access to 00 Gauge items (HO being the equivalent popular gauge) and would have to order and wait for items to come from overseas/mail order from the limited stockists in the US.

Rant over and back to the build I installed an angle to rest the rear of the awing (the unseen part below the eaves) and glued this in position now that the roof slating is complete (the angle had to be pushed out further from 90 degress and I again used my trusty noodle pot and hot water). Before I installed the angle I scribed the planking as to do so after installation of the angle would have been difficult.

Once this has dried off then I will set to fabricating the downpipes for the awning and painting all that matt black as well as the columns and front angle section of the awning (currently unpainted white in the picture).

My copy of British Railway Modelling has arrived from the UK so I am away to pore over that!!









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I have now installed the downpipes to the awning and painted it up.

Whilst this was drying I took took out the plinths I had made some months ago in readiness for the platform side gables (see first picture below) and then completed and installed them.

I have shown in the second picture current progress however awning is shown in place only (not fixed) and the down pipes are hanging free on either sude and not fixed to the wall yet. (its a bit dark but leaving the flash on meant plinths were not clear)










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Stunning Darren - just stunning. :wink: :wink:

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Wow, Darren, just Fantastic!!! Isn't it great when it all comes together? :D :D :D

Do you have a prototype picture that you are building to?

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