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 Posted: Sun Dec 9th, 2007 10:09 pm
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I am currently scratchbuilding a model of Tain Railway Station, Ross-shire. I have used card for the most part with paper downloaded from scalescenes however for the more trickier parts I am building the chimney pots from brass tube, the awning from plastruct styrene and the awning columns from Aluminium Tube. See attached work in progress with awning styrene structure ready for finishing and paint (its curling a bit but should settle down once fixed in position).





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 Posted: Sun Dec 9th, 2007 10:36 pm
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Don't worry, Darren :wink: It took me a bit of practice before I got the hang of posting photos. Rather than me wittering on, try the "official" forum instructions
You will need a free Photobucket account which you can get.


Good luck, and looking forward to seeing those photos :!: :!:



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Hello Darren and welcome to the forum, glad to have you aboard.

It's good to see youv'e started to show us your work, follow Rector's advice and we'll be able to see your photos.
If you need any advice, please don't be afraid to ask, we all like to get involved here and we're a friendly bunch.

I'll put an official welcome in the "Welcome section" and the replies will soon prove my point :!:

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Tim & Jeff many thanks.



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Your building looks very good, Darren :) :)

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Nice sturdy looking structure Darren, looking forward to seeing it develop.
If you have the time and the inclination maybe you could write up a bit about your layout in our "personal layouts" section.
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Nice to have another scratchbuilder on here, Darren. We have a few members who are tempted to take the plunge but haven't done so yet (or haven't admitted it :roll: ) so hopefully your project will help encourage them. :D

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Nice looking build there darren, look forward to more pics
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This is what I started with first (modelled in GMAX).....







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Now that's a neat idea, model the building in 3D prior to tackling the construction in Styrene.
I can do that in AutoCAD and then print out the walls, etc to use as templates.
I think that someone else has talked about doing this somewhere else on the forum but your picture helped me clarify the concept.
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This was the original starting point even before the I developed the gmax model. After completing the GMAX model and before starting on the card model proper, I actually took a tip from an American Plastic Building Guide to generate a mock-up model from thin card. I generated three buildings until it looked right and all hiccups ironed it (I was glad that i follwed that tip!!)






I was able to generate this solely from photographs from the web (plus a VERY hazy childhood memory!) so probably took longer than if had completed a photographic survey. One item (amongst many others!) I certainly learned is to constantly learn to refer to the photos as it is amazing what you miss, forget etc..



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Can anyone recommend the best 00 scale cast iron type guttering & downpipes (as I will need to order online I wont have a chance to view and handle first!)?
Wills? Dornaplas? Ratio? or any other manufacturer for that matter?



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It seems a lot of work and planning before you even start on the styrene but as Perry, both Bobs and yourself have shown us the final product is worth the effort.

I suppose the other thing to balance out the "rush in where angels fear to tread" attitude ('cause I am champing at the bit to get some buildings made) is that these models we build for our layouts may very well be in place for years, even 10s of years. It's a long time to be disappointed with your own efforts.

Good prompt about the card mockup... I was going to skip that bit and rely on the CAD drawing but I think that I'd better do the mockups to ensure that the buildings fit around the trackwork.

thanks Darren.

PS I know that Perry uses round styrene to create his guttering and down pipes, filing it flat on one side to make a half round for the gutters.



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Thanks Marty. I was also going to miss the mock-up part but when i read the referral in the book it was most emphatic (the reference was from John Nehrich from the HO Scale layout at Rensselaer Polytechnic New York - he advised that they as experienced modellers sometimes generate up to three mock-ups before they are happy...) when it turned out that i had three mock-ups i was a convert to this approach.



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This is how I make guttering:


Downpipes are pieces of plastic rod or tube of suitable diameter with paper strips added where joints would occur - usually about every 6 feet on the prototype.

As far as mock-ups are concerned, I find them invaluable. I wouldn't dream of building anything in plastikard until I had tried a card mock-up of the building to see how it will fit on the layout first.

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Thanks Perry, will give that a try for the guttering - in terms of forming bends for the downpipes, do you apply heat (hot water?) of some sort in order to bend ?



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I trial fitted the awning again (with the support from a glue bottle!) before attempting the columns and thought i would check the photos one last time...the awning is incorrect as its flush with the gable ends (see 1st pic) - it should be set back. I was swithering between cutting a slot in the wall to slide the awning through (not noticeable BUT i would know!!!) or cut the size of the awning down one side and reglue all the cross members...after deciding that to take the first option would be a bad idea i have decided to modify the awning (ie do it right) and will glue a new rear member in first - this should make it easier to make the reduction in width (see 2nd pic - note trial fit of the new member only - its getting late so that will have to wait till tommorrow).









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darrenscots wrote:Thanks Perry, will give that a try for the guttering - in terms of forming bends for the downpipes, do you apply heat (hot water?) of some sort in order to bend ?

It depends on the sort of material and the size one is using. The downpipes on my goods shed are made from Evergreen rod (solid, not tubular) and is about 1.5mm diameter, I believe. I find I can bend this by hand, working slowly and gently, a little at a time. This material tends to want to straighten somewhat, so a little 'overbending' may be needed initially to get it to stay where it is wanted. I have used hot water before when the material was of a heavier gauge, so I think perhaps you just need to experiment a little with whatever you are using.

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Perry, thanks for the tip. I will give that a go.

Progress today was limited to modifying the awning to the correct size, cutting the support columns (aluminium tube) and bottom pads (see trial fit below - still have the top connections to do)






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Very neat! Coming along nicely. :wink: :D

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