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 Posted: Mon Sep 19th, 2011 11:34 am
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Sol wrote: Yes I saw the locked topic Warren & not really surprised re lack of reply from Train World but then perhaps a telephone call maybe quicker as some retailers do not like e-mail.Well mate, if they can't get with the modern times they deserve to go under.

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Here are four pictures of the side building on the main building of the elevator. This appears to be a drive thru unloading facility of some kind.

Notice the roof line is all sloped. All I can figure out is the auger that connects the large grain bin to the elevator runs right over the top of this roof. It must be a messy operation to slope the roofs like this.

Don't pay too much attention to the wall between the two building in the first photo. It is just hanging there temporarily. It's actually up about a half inch from the table top and I am amazed that it stays there even that good.

I had to piece together a few pieces of the exterior siding in order to complete this. You can see a seam in the last picture. I had no choice because I wasn't going to buy another sheet 12" x 24" just for this. The large grain bin sets right in that area somewhere, hopefully it will hide the joint. Actually when I get done rusting up this thing you probably won't see it anyway.
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you aren`t from Texas by any chance Wayne? cos everything is BIG in Texas and you like building `em big!!
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looking good though,
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How Wayne is going to put a lift in there for the workers.. the stairs the stairs :lol:

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you aren`t from Texas by any chance Wayne? cos everything is BIG in Texas and you like building `em big!!

Owen,
This is by far the largest model I have every built. Just wait until I put all these pieces together and take a photo of that! :shock:

Black5,
You know what I have been thinking about? I have no clue what exactly goes on inside one of these elevators. It can't all be storage for grain, the structure is not built to withstand that kind of force against the walls.

So there has to be stairs of some kind in there. Luckily all the windows are so filthy you can't see in, so I'm going to do the same thing! :mutley

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This first picture still needs some piping installed that will allow train cars to be filled with grain. They are very long pipes that will be extremely fragile so I am not sure when I want to make and install them.





Here is the elevator mostly assembled. All pieces still are removable for painting though. I still need to make a permanent base to set all the pieces on so it can be moved around without damaging things. It may be large but it is still fragile.



There are still quite a few details I want to add to this. A gas meter, overhead garage doors in the open position, piping and such.

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I've just read the last few pages Wayne - I tend to leave your "builds" for a couple of weeks then read it in lumps - that way, I get a picture of how things are developing all at one session.

Reading from your cylinder skinning through to this last shot of the huge assembled complex has been an amazing journey.  Yes, sure, we can all take photos of grain handling installations and see how complex they are but, even breaking things down into the little "modules" you and Perry mentioned earlier, there are very few who could recreate those photos so accurately.  The tiny detail you've included is mind boggling - I love those switchboxes and sensor housings on the silo - seldom shown on models less than "museum standard" but so necessary to create a minature of the real thing.

I sat here imagining you caluclating the required sheets for the skinning to such a high degree of accuracy and I just thought "We've got another master builder here - it's awesome stuff".  Sure enough, we have. :thumbs

It doesn't need me to say how good this model is, everyone can see that for sure, but, like your previous builds, it's a real credit to your skill, inginuity, patience and perseverence.  I've no doubt if you built a rabbit hutch next time, you wouldn't be happy unless you included some droppings ............:cheers:lol:



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Wayne what to say? all been said already, awesome mate  just love your builds,
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:oops: :oops: :oops:

I'm not sure I fit into the Master category as Perry though, but thank you for the very kind comment Petermac.

I do enjoy building these models. Everyone has their likes and dislikes. I have to push myself to go out and work on the layout. I like doing that, it's just that I like building models even better.

Now I must start working on that natural gas meter! :lol:

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Every grain dryer needs a gas regulator so here it is for Zahl's Elevator. You can get an idea of the size by looking at those lines on the cutting matt. They are 1" squares.

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Wayne Williams wrote: :oops: :oops: :oops:

I'm not sure I fit into the Master category as Perry ..........................
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Wayne,

I can assure you that you have left me way behind. This is a wonderful subject, combining as it does so many very varied shapes. I think you may be in danger of falling into the scratchbuilding trap as I did to some degree; a project takes so much effort and time that little else gets done on the layout. It has almost made me consider giving up building a layout and just spending my time scratchbuild structures and buidlings. I don't think that will happen though.

Brilliant work.

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Perry wrote:
I think you may be in danger of falling into the scratchbuilding trap as I did to some degree; a project takes so much effort and time that little else gets done on the layout. It has almost made me consider giving up building a layout and just spending my time scratchbuild structures and buildings.


It's almost scary you say that Perry. I was talking to my Dad tonight, and told him "I enjoy building structures so much I never get out on the layout". :shock: :shock: :shock:

The big problem Perry is ......... I didn't know I was in a trap until now! :thud

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Sorry, Wayne. I should have warned you.................:???:

The next stage is tearing up track to make space for more buildings. :twisted:

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I didn't get much time to work on the model today. Too many other things got in the way. At least the windows are in and the roof cap around the perimeter is complete now.

I tried to take a photo with the roof in place looking into the windows, but the camera just would not focus inside the building. It looked like I had put in frosted window glass, and I actually have no glazing in yet at all. The glazing is next and will be a bit tricky due to the lack of space around most of the windows. All that furniture didn't help that either.

This is a cute little model that didn't take much time at all. It has a lot of character when you peer into the windows. None of my other models had that. You should always try and push the limits I guess. Who knows what will happen in the next project!

Now I need to sit down and go over every piece of the Zahl Elevator and make sure I have everything on it that I want. Once I am satisfied then I will make one complete base that all the pieces will sit on and be bonded in place for easy removal from the layout. I will most definitely paint each building separately before bonding to the base.

Now, where's that paint brush?
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I am starting to work on the base for the entire complex now. Here are all of the buildings that comprise the complex, other than the 3 small grain bins, which I will mount separately.

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This just gets better, Wayne.
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Here is an update on Zahl's Elevator. The painting is done on it. Only the weathering remains. I will more than likely take more time weathering it than it took to paint it.

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Wayne,you just continue to amaze me, those buildings are great,
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Terrific stuff, Wayne! :doublethumb

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This thread is almost a year old now, I had to go back a ways to find it. I finally have gotten around to doing some weathering on the Zahl's Elevator, so I thought I would update for you.

This first photo is of the real Mccoy taken on June 25th, 2008. Yes I know, it takes me a long time to get things done. Just don't give up on me, I eventually do get it done. The second photo is the model painted but not weathered. The last two are almost finished with the weathering, the only thing left is to do the black wash. About the only thing it will accomplish is to dull down any shinny spots that I didn't touch and it will help the tops of the roofs, they need to be dirtied up a bit yet.

This has taken me 5 hours so far, I'm stiff and tired, so that's it for today.

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