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 Posted: Mon Aug 29th, 2011 03:19 pm
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 Posted: Mon Aug 29th, 2011 04:50 pm
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The proof is in the photo, or is that puddin? Anyway here is probably the best cylinder I have built yet.

This will be my assembly method from now on. It looks so good I don't think I will even put the second layer on it. It is extremely rigid, round things usually are though.




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"It is extremely rigid, round things usually are though"

Yes.

Good work there, Wayne.



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I have now added the C-channels around the exterior, the sloped domed roof, and installed six legs. You should try putting legs on like that sometime. It is a devil of a time getting them both straight (not sure I did) and all the same length so the hopper will stand up straight.

The legs are only 1/16" in diameter and not strong enough to sand them even on the bottom.



I think I will have to make a thick (strong) base under the entire elevator to mount everything to. The entire base can be bedded in so it doesn't show on the layout. At least I would have something to hold the individual buildings and such together in relation to the main structure.

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Petermac wrote: ......Have you a recommended cutter ?  I seem to recall you can spend a few bob or £20 or more on them.

My local store only had a two choices (take it or leave it!), so I can't really offer an opinion on what else is available. Sorry.


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The way I stop solvent bottles getting knocked over, and making the brushes easier to find is like this, Wayne:



Once you have spilled a bottleful of solvent over something you are working on, I pretty much guarantee that the next thing you will want to do, after cleaning up of course, is to make one of these little boxes.  Don't ask me how I know this. :roll:

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Perry,
Guess what? I already have one! The problem is it fits one size bottle and the bottle I was using is almost half that diameter.

So when you change the size of the solvent bottle you should IMMEDIATELY stop and build one to fit that size bottle.

Don't ask me how I know this either! :roll: :lol:

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Now it's starting to look like something. I have added several electrical boxes and some conduit. There are several more natural gas lines and a regulator that will be added soon. The regulator sits out and to the right from this photo. It is fairly large with lots of brick-brak that will dress it up too.




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Looks a bit elaborate to hold solvent bottles, Wayne.

Great stuff again - look forward to the painting.



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We have been painting the inside of out house this past week, so not much done with the model. Today however I was able to get back into the swing of things and here is what I have accomplished so far.




I decided to place the whole assembly on a base. I think I talked about that earlier. It really helped to put all those cross braces in when the base held those four tall legs perfectly straight. I don't think I could have put them in without it.

Believe it or not but this still comes apart into three separate pieces. That should really help when it comes time to start the painting.

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This is another of the Grain Bins, but this one is VERY large. It is just under 4" in diameter and 7 1/8" tall.

Due to it's diameter I decided to put in 5 of the disks to help support the outer skin.

The first layer of the outer skin is .020 thick styrene sheet. As you can see from this photo, I just bonded the leading edge of the skin and then simply rolled it along about a half an inch at a time, and bonded it to each of the disks.

The trick here is to make sure that the sheet is perpendicular to the grain bin or it will run off either the top or bottom edges. I cut the skin 1/32" taller than the height of the 5 disks. That helped some I think. The excess was simply sanded off afterwards.

One other thing to make sure you have square is the top and bottom disks. They MUST be parallel to each other and when it sits on a flat surface it must be vertical, or you will have fits trying to wrap the outer skin.



In this photo the final outer layer is in place. This layer is .040 thick Metal Siding from Evergreen Scale models with .030 spacing on the ribs. The Evergreen product number is 4525.

I cut the strips, 18 of them, and bonded them in place, starting at the top and working my way down. The bottom 1/4" will be painted to look like a base of poured concrete.



There is one more word of caution here. The diameter of the final outer skin (metal siding) was a heart stopping issue. When I calculated the amount of material that it took to wrap around the bin with the .020 thick sheet in place, it was 12.090 inches. The Evergreen material I bought for this comes in 6" x 12" sheets. For once in my life something actually worked out in my favor. :Happy When I bonded on the top piece, it ended up being exactly 12". The joint fit perfectly with no trimming and no gap. That will NEVER happen again!

I believe the loss of the .090" was due to having to sand the edges of the five disks. I placed them together and sanded the circumference so they all matched. In some places I had to sand more than I wanted to, so I more than likely have a slight flat spot somewhere. As I spin and roll it now though I can't see a flat anywhere. Go figure!

Next up is to cut out the cylindrical top.

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I think most of us are learning something from your efforts, Wayne (even if it's not to tackle such complicated tasks!).



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ddolfelin wrote:
I think most of us are learning something from your efforts, Wayne (even if it's not to tackle such complicated tasks!).


This is not really complicated at all, just five round disks with flat sheet glued to them.

I hope everyone can see the improvements from my first grain bin progressively to this one, because I sure can. Just goes to show you that you get better the more you do something.

Now back to that complicated conical dome. :cool wink

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Well here it is with the dome on top. All the joints have been scribed in with a razor blade.

Now on to the next phase.

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ddolfelin wrote: I think most of us are learning something from your efforts, Wayne (even if it's not to tackle such complicated tasks!).
You're doing a great job, Wayne. I seem to recall some comments way back on here about scratchbuilding tasks being complicated. (I think they may have even included one or two from your good self! :mutley)

What you discovered and have illustrated so well from this and your previous builds is that the tasks are not really that complicated. Most things are just several smaller assemblies fixed together to make a larger assembly, and so on.

It's lovely neat work. I'm looking forward to seeing the painting stage (although I bet you're not! ;-))

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Perry,
Your probably not going to believe this but, actually I am looking forward to painting this project. I have done so many "rusted up" models that I don't even have to think about it anymore. I just start putting on "whatever", because I found that it doesn't really matter how I do it, just as long as I keep putting on different rust colors. When I am done it always seems to look old and rusty.

The Old Republic has so much detail on it that it seems over powering. Like almost everything in this hobby, once I start it, it's never as hard as I imagined it.

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In my post #14 is a photo of the tall building that I am currently working on. I am not sure how to go about building it. I mean I know how to make the walls and such, but reinforcing it is more my question. This thing is 12" tall and 4" wide x 6" long.

That seems like a large expanse inside the structure. Would it be wise to put in a few "floors" to help keep the walls flat and straight? I intend to put in at least three layers on each wall, to stiffen them up.

Along the same line, if I add those floors, then I am creating sealed compartments that may need to be ventilated somehow. As dilapidated as this building is I could always "bust out" a few windows to ventilate it.

Any suggestions or comments?

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Wayne it is not my province  building in plastic, but I have followed  Perry and yourself ,could you not build the structure leaving one side /end off till last letting all parts dry then fit that wall last ??
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told you it was not my thing,just remembered you would still have sealed compartments,I suppose  you could drill some vent holes in the floors,
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I agree with you Owen. I will attach three walls for now and wait and see what Perry thinks.

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