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 Posted: Thu Aug 11th, 2011 05:31 am
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Two colours used in the GWR pre-BR days were light & dark stone.

For the experts on GWR ( well those YMRers who know a lot more about GWR than me)  in this forum, what commercial paints like Humbrol, etc match those two colours please?

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 Posted: Thu Aug 11th, 2011 07:45 am
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Don't know if it helps Ron but you can get the two colours you mention here                                                                                     http://www.phoenix-paints.co.uk/enamel.asp?F_Railway=1






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Ron, this is a long standing bone of contention - prototypical colours for the stone range.
I have seen many variations in shade and tone of modelling paints.
It would be good if someone could bring expertise to the matter and let us have a definitive colour guide.
There is one offered on the Interweb but I'm not sure of the support it has.



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... and of course the colours would have changed over the years with fading and paint suppliers.



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Thanks Ste & Dd, that is very true about changing colours.

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If you want to use Humbrol Colours mix No.62 leather with white for both light and dark stone and add a bit of yellow to the light stone. I have scanned samples taken from two different locations dating from a repaint in the 1940s but the stations closed before getting a BR repaint,  I will upload when I get home tonight if this helps.


The Railmatch colours seem to pale and wishy washy, the Pheonix colours are very close to the samples I have  
 

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That's helpful, David.



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Ron, I don't think anyone can give a definitive answer for color is very much in the eye of the beholder (like beauty) and it all depends upon the extent it is weathered and worn and the light in which it is seen. There are numerous 'expert' opinions and having been bemused by them all I follow my own path.

I use Acrylic  paint from a franchise operation 'Michaels' that has stores across the US that sell all manner of paints, glues, artificial flowers etc. The brand is Ceramcoat and for the light stone a mixture of Ivory and Buttermilk, and for the dark Bambi Brown. It looks about right to me and you can see the results on my Hintock tread.

Maybe you can find a similar kind of store near you.



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Thanks fellows.

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Here are some of the samples, hope this helps

 

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Perfect thanks David.

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Of course, how those render on your screen Sol, depends upon your monitor's ability to reproduce colours correctly...


What's helpful in these sorts of cases is photograph the examples with a known reference (eg a Dulux paint card) and then use a duplicate reference card to ensure the viewed colours are reproduced with the same hues/tint/ etc.



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Can the undercoat have an effect on the shade of the topcoat?



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Ron

If you are really stuck, I have seen Humbrol 70 (Brick) and 61 (Flesh) used. I would add some white to the 61 though. Once weathered they are not too bad. Useable, although I have to admit I swear by the Railmatch colours.

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My preference is also for the Railmatch colours, although I have to agree with David, I'm sure they could do with a little intensification for "newly painted" applications.

Railmatch paints seem a good match for the colours when the newness has worn off.

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Thanks to all. Of course the question I posed was not from me but my mate who has done buildings for me (at no cost) so when he asked me if I could find out, I said "Yes". I will get a photo of the Bodmin Signal Box he made to show you the result.

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Here is one shot ( slightly fuzzy - I did not realize until I got home)


Scalescenes papers - his own cut out windows - he now uses the cardboard from Bachmann wagon boxes.

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Here is a link to the north London Groups Bodmin layout, including photos of the signal box

http://www.scalefour.org/shows/scaleforum2009/bodmin.html#row5

Also the stone colours used on this model seem close to the samples I have posted.

 

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Of course it is difficult to judge from a screen shot, but to me the light stone looks a bit too yellow, almost a yellow ochre, whereas I thoguht more of a pinkish tone would be nearer the mark. But, as I say, it could be just the way my PC screen is set up. Nice looking signal box though.

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