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 Posted: Sat Jul 16th, 2011 08:45 pm
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It's time for me to have a do. I have weaned myself off Traincontroller to have a go at this modelling mularky. I know i have a lot to aspire to so it's going to be difficult.

The plan this weekend to start and maybe finish a plate girger road bridge with brick arch supports either side finished off with parapet walls.


Below is a sketch of what i am trying to achieve.

The bridge will seperate my fiddle Yard from the layout. On the layout side i will have bricked up arches but on the fiddle yard side i will use the "lock up" option and have some busineess activity going on.

I am using a selection of Wills kits which offer a choice and a bit of variety.

Brick Retaining Arches SS52 Qty 2

Vari girder SS57   Qty 2 (could get away with using only one).

Abutments and wings walls SS64. Qty 1



First impression of the kits? very good and plenty off stuff which won't be used on this build, but can be used on other parts of the layout.

 

First up i built the brick arch and paprapet wall kit, the result is these 2 arches which is half the kit, you can see the options to fill the arch with either a brick finish or the lock up effect. Very easy.

 


 

Next up i tackled the Vari plate kit. The kit contains a nice 8 sprues which will allow to build a double span of upto 7 inches. The vari in the kit name indicates it's up to you what you do, a lot of options if need ironwork.

 




 

Below is an indication of what i am after and it's all going to plan.





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 Posted: Sat Jul 16th, 2011 09:53 pm
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I've never used the Ratio arches Pete but the plate girder bridge is a beauty.  You could try some of that "salt weathering" on it - they were often close to rusted through at the bottom of the panels ............

Your mockup look good :thumbs



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Cheers Peter, they are nice kits that go together easily and there is plenty of scope for your own individual designs, I agree the plate girder kit is nice and relatively cheap. I must take care with the finishing don't want to cock it up.

Here are a few more snaps following a bit of assembly work.








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I am watching this coz I have the Scalescenes versions that I want to use so this will give me ideas.

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Thats excellent Pete

I have used a load of those Wills Arches they are very versatile......I always had problems with the inset arch......yours look very good:thumbs



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Sol wrote: I am watching this coz I have the Scalescenes versions that I want to use so this will give me ideas.

Ron i have the scalescenes kits as well, but i am afraid all that cutting out does my fruit in. I have a cunning plan to use Johns kits as templates and use Wills materials and plasticard.

I shall email over the Wills destructions Ron, it has some ideas you may want to use for retaining arches.

John a disclaimer here, any similarties between my layout and Granby is purely coincidental........... not :mutley



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:hiPete, I do like the look of those materials and your build. I will need something similar myself.

Many thanks for showing your creation.

Just a question :oops: Any idea when the railways started useing plate girder,s for bridge spans rather than masonry arches.

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I would say very early Derek, Preston is littered with them and some are very ornate (decorated with red roses etc) which means Victorian, You will be safe with your L&Y/LMS layout. I got  my inspiration sat on a plate girder bridge on Blackpool Road which crosses the West Coast Main Line. I didn't notice a date plate. They may have been used for the wider spans.

I know nowt about prototypes so one of our experienced forum modellers may be of more help.

Time for a little update, i have had a test assembly to measure up for the roadway and all is looking good, the two open arches nearest will be lock up workshops.

Still thinking about details, some ties, red rose castings, signs, cables still thinking and a bit more ironwork under the plate girder.






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:doublethumb Thanks Pete, My word that model is coming on a treat :thumbs Gives me a great deal of inspiration for whats ahead.

I like the idea of Red Roses :doublethumb

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shunter1 wrote:
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I do as well................less certain about Petermac:lol:



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Hi Pete

Plate girders are never laid straight onto brick. You need some sort of concrete pad and often some sort of expansion brackets.

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John Dew wrote: shunter1 wrote:
I like the idea of Red Roses


I do as well................less certain about Petermac:lol:

:twisted::twisted::twisted::twisted::twisted::Red Card



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wogga wrote:

Still thinking about details, some ties, red rose castings, signs, cables still thinking and a bit more ironwork under the plate girder.



You might also have the ends of some "H" section RSJ's showing under the plated panels - depending on the constuction of the framework.



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I will compromise Peter shall we agree to say the L&Y built it.



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You could have 2 panels with red roses and two with white ....................:roll::roll:



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Quick update, i attacked the bridge with my airbrush first applying a red cover followed by some delicately placed black grey and light brown. The plate girder got a nice coat of Panzer Grey. I will apply some dark washes next. Hopefully most of the wash will run into the pointing.










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:thumbsNow that really looks the business Pete and with reinforcement Do Dahs under the plate ends. Its going to look great on your railway ;-)

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Update after a bit of weathering as advised by members, using black and khaki washes and highlights picked out with artists pencils very easy very lazy.

I am pleased with the result.








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That's impressive, Pete.  :thumbs



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Woteesed, VG, and all that.

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