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Well, having gone 'pro' I thought I'd better record some trade secrets - that way I'll know where to look them up next time I need them!

Having previously eschewed the Woodland Scenics range of baseboard materials on the basis that they were expensive with someone else footing the bill I specified one of their polystyrene incline formers for the layout I'm building and have to say that it is brilliant.

I marked along sides of the track with a felt-tip, lifted the track, splodged some Copydex on the bottom of the riser and pushed it into place. A couple of brass tubes were stuck into the foam baseboard to keep things in place whilst the glue dried and bingo - an instant, even, curved gradient.



All it needs now is a layer of foam underlay and then the track can be fixed down. :Happy

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I take it that the riser bends to whatever radius you choose Ian or does it come as a fixed radius.

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Bob,
they are flexible to give any radius, and there are different gradients too.
I've used on one my now abandoned loft layout, and as Ian said, they are really good. You need to create a transition curve from flat to incline and from incline to flat at the top, but this is not difficult.
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It looks quite steep Ian - is that the camera "never lying" ? :roll::roll:

Also, as it's polystyrene (I think) how do you fix the track down - Copydex again ?

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That's 'cos it is steep. 4% (or 1 in 25 in old money). Perfectly achievable for a loco and a couple of wagons or 1 or 2 car passenger set that will use it. They do a 2% (1 in 50) which would be more suited to longer trains.

Copydex (or WS foam adhesive) to fix the riser in place, same to fix the foam underlay (3mm tent underlay) to the riser and same again to fix the track (ready-ballasted Fleischmann) to the underlay.

Simples [irritating meerkat noise] :thumbs

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Meanwhile, the commissioning editor for a well-known publisher wants a meeting to see if I have any ideas for another book (or books).

So, just in case I'm missing an obvious gap in the market, what would you lot like to read and, hopefully, buy?

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Money is tight.

I want a Model Railway.

I'd love for my son/daughter [inclusive language] to carry on/be interested in my hobby.

I'd like something that could become a fiddle-yard/become a 'hidden' part of a more 'adult' layout so no expensive 'big axe'.

It's got to fit in a small space/lift up to the ceiling/under the bed.

Nowadays there are only preservation railways with live steam/Deltics/pony tramways etc so we need to be able to associate it all with our region/county/area so the kids can take the idea to school anf not be thought of as 'nerds'.

I am the product of modern educational doctrines and I don't know how to use a tenon saw/chisel/drill to cut up dead trees...




Ian, I could go on for ages like this, but as a technical author you are already streets ahead of many I've read recently.


Sadly, none of the above includes 'Nerdy old bearded git who makes 'ickle cardboard models of defunct, aincient buildings from Cornflake packets' meets up with 'Established, modern, published technical author' or we'd both be swilling the Chateaux Lussac from pint-pots!


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Other than Doug's ideas about how to build a model railway from dead elm trees (mustn't chop down carbon gobbling "proper" trees in this day and age) using an adze - carefully guarded and under adult supervision (can't be encouraging thrilling but potentially dangerous activities for kids in this day and age) - and an Egyptian water level (can't be encouraging kids to use "spirit" levels in this day and age - they might associate the term "spirit" with health damaging alchohol) and walls provided courtesy of Mr Kellog (I wonder, does Special K work as well as Corn Flakes ? - we can't be encouraging kids towards obesity in this day and age).

Of course it must be "modern image" - no steam trains at all as evertything associated with the past was cruel, archaic, xenophobic Empire building colonialism,  plus of course, we can't be encouraging kids to have anything to do with that horrible, filthy, disgusting smelly stuff called "smoke"  - I think it's all been done Ian !!

Whilst it has all been done, much of it could do with doing again - as Doug suggests, to fit in with modern living.

Houses are smaller, RTR "stuff" is as good as, or, in many cases, better than kit built and, in real terms, considerably cheaper than it was 30 years ago.  The inter world wide whatsit wasn't around then so the global market didn't exist.  "Electronics" didn't exist.  Sound didn't exist (at least not in "model" form).

I think so much has changed that a re-examination of the "old" stuff would be welcome.

From a commercial point of view, any book/video would have to have a reasonably narrow subject matter - or a high price.  The latter, IMHO, wouldn't sell !!  If the price is kept fairly low, people would buy it as a "stocking filler" whereas I've been put off buying books "at the higher end" because I've read adverse comments - "could have been more detailed", "poor photographs", "for beginners only" or "not for beginners".  If you make your subject matter too wide, either you only skim the surface or alternatively, you kill any future market for another publication.  Of course it has to be wide enough to encourage buyers. - i.e. "How I fit a Peco point motor" wouldn't sell many copies whereas "How I created Miniatur Wunderland" might not require a sequel !!

I also think perhaps DVD has a place but not to the exclusion of books.  Maybe a "combined" book / DVD publication - read the book in bed, on the bus/train/plane and use the DVD as a "visual" explanation of what's in the book.  You can tell someone how to do it 100 times but there's no real substitue for "seeing" it being done.  A picture is usually worth 1000 words.

I suspect if you asked 100 "would-be" modellers what they'd buy, you'd get 100 different answers suggesting either what they like doing or what they'd like to be able to do.  The former as a "hints and tips" book and the latter as a "text" book.

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Having given you absolutely no ideas whatsoever (:oops:), here's a few that might float my boat.

You've already done an excellent one on electrics (it's on my shelf), but has anyone done a book on fitting decoders loco by loco and would it be feasible or indeed, practical ?

How many times do people search the net for "how to's" on fitting a decoder to this loco or that one ?  It seems at times, even getting the body off can be a problem.  There's almost 1 book a year for you - take the new annual issues of locos and fit a decoder to each with illustrated steps.  You could start with split chassis locos, railcar "sets" "difficult" to do,  "easy" to do or "don't bother".

Another idea - along the lines of Doug's post - building a layout from everyday items (except, of course, the stock).  How do you build a baseboard without having to have a woodwork degree and requiring extra supports in the floor ?  Landform from either throw-away polystyrene packaging or torn up bed sheets.  How many people nowadays have access to chicken wire and plaster or would want to pay for it or risk getting it on the living room carpet ?

Signalling.  Easy to follow, everyday terminology for railway signalling - both semaphore and light - a section for each. The why's and wherefore's of placing, interlocking, potential sighting problems etc. etc. I'm not talking Gibbon's "Decline and Fall" here, I'm talking along the lines of an "Aspects" book - easy to dip into.  You'll have gathered that, whilst it could interest me, I glaze over very quickly with some publications because I have no desire to win Mastermind on Railway Signalling.

When you've written those 3, let me know and I'll give you a few more ideas .....................:cheers:cheers:cheers


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I'm not talking Gibbon's "Decline and Fall" here,....


Now that is just the sort of 'pee it in the corner', 'devil-may-care' quasi-ironic mal-appreciation I have come to detest.....

Surely you don't seek to ignore Ebebnezer Gibbon's seminal work on the 'Decline and Fall of the Taper Key thrupple-nut'? Much less his ground-breaking work 'Detached considerations on the constituents of the white-metal bearings of the former Bombay and Baroda Railway'?

Ever since Malchior Spendpump's second edition of 'One-hundred-and-four Meat paste fillings for Refreshment Room Sandwiches' received such a luke-warm reception at the Baffin Island Midwive's Bookfest [1987] I have sadly contemplated the decline of the truly fascinating, esoteric and absorbing technical press.

Shame on you, Sir!



Xavier Wart-Flinger






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This correspondence is starting to look like a cross between "Letters to the Times" and the "Henry Root Letters". :shock::mutley

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How about Railroad and Co for dummies?  I'd buy six copies just for myself.  :mutley

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What about a book that outlines how someone can set up a small or large amount of automation. From a simple out and back automated line, through Signals that change automatically with points, to full computer control.
Some of the simple things could be quite detailed, whereas the full computer control items (RR & Co and Itrain etc) could give a brief outline and suggested further reading.

There are also dozens of "control Units" out there, from opening crossing gates to flickering braziers for workmen's sheds, which would read well collected together as a book of suggestions and ideas. - "Model Railways - Adding details and features".

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It's always good advice to write about what you know - so how about a book on setting up a small business based on the model railway industry - either as a DCC specialist, or a packeto-flako building constructor, for examples - so us mere mortals who might be considering expanding our hobby into a cover-the-costs-or-maybe-make-a-small-profit business would have some ideas about the pitfalls or benefits (!) of making the move ?

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Stubby47 wrote: It's always good advice to write about what you know - so how about a book on setting up a small business based on the model railway industry - either as a DCC specialist, or a packeto-flako building constructor, for examples - so us mere mortals who might be considering expanding our hobby into a cover-the-costs-or-maybe-make-a-small-profit business would have some ideas about the pitfalls or benefits (!) of making the move ?

Stu

I suspect a book on the benefits of doing such a thing would end up as a pamphlet whereas the one on the pitfalls would be large, heavy and arrive in several volumes.  It would therefore be over priced ........................:lol::lol::lol::roll:

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Stu, two things spring to mind which would sum up everything you need to know:

The easiest way to make a small fortune in the model railway business is to start with a large one

and

There may be a niche in the market but that doesn't mean that there is a market in the niche.

Thanks for all your input gents.

My initial thoughts were for a Layout building Morton-style tome, extolling the delights of taking the line of least resistance and buying in things as close to ready-to-use as you can get and a Guide to Contemporary UK Railways covering the way that the current UK railway industry operates, what it operates and how to replicate this in model form.

I doubt that Modelling on the Cheap would be a goer - the likely market wouldn't pay for it, they'd want the information free of the Interweb :roll:.

That nice Mr. Gwent Rail's idea is interesting - I think it might be difficult as a book due to the manufacturer-dependent nature of many solutions - people don't seem to want to hunch over a rat's nest of wires and relays trying to make their own any more :cry:

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A book on how to make your mind up and not procrastinate over scale, era, location, track plan, etc, etc would be very useful.

I might even consider buying a copy........... but then again perhap's not ..... I'll decide next month.

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You can never have too many books on Scratchbuilding Techniques, I love to follow these projects from start to finish and admire the skills involved before having a bash myself!

Your DCC and Railway Electrics are already on my bookshelf so here's hoping

Cheers

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I'm not talking Gibbon's "Decline and Fall" here,....
Now that is just the sort of 'pee it in the corner', 'devil-may-care' quasi-ironic mal-appreciation I have come to detest.....

Surely you don't seek to ignore Ebebnezer Gibbon's seminal work on the 'Decline and Fall of the Taper Key thrupple-nut'? Much less his ground-breaking work 'Detached considerations on the constituents of the white-metal bearings of the former Bombay and Baroda Railway'?

Ever since Malchior Spendpump's second edition of 'One-hundred-and-four Meat paste fillings for Refreshment Room Sandwiches' received such a luke-warm reception at the Baffin Island Midwive's Bookfest [1987] I have sadly contemplated the decline of the truly fascinating, esoteric and absorbing technical press.

Shame on you, Sir!

Xavier Wart-Flinger

Ebenezer Gibbon and Malchior Spendpump were dilettantes sir, their work cannot hold a candle to Josiah Symonds-Yat's seminal work Telegraph Pole Insulators of Shropshire's Independent Railways - a copy of which is my constant bedtime companion.

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Ian Morton wrote......................................................................Ebenezer Gibbon and Malchior Spendpump were dilettantes sir, their work cannot hold a candle to Josiah Symonds-Yat's seminal work Telegraph Pole Insulators of Shropshire's Independent Railways - a copy of which is my constant bedtime companion.

They even named a village after said Josiah between Ross on Wye and Monmouth ....................:roll::roll:

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You live and learn. Usually the hard way.

You may have heard of the Roco/Fleischmann multiMaus - a popular Lenz compatible controller on the European mainland.

The mM comes with a standard RJ12 style telephone plug on the end of the cable that fits into the appropriate socket on a Lenz panel. Lovely.

Now, if you happen to have a multiMaus base station rather than a Lenz one, things start to get interesting.

The mM base station has two sockets - one 'master' and one 'slave'. According to the instructions one, and only one, mM must be plugged into the master socket for things to work at all. Any extra controllers, interfaces or other gizmos connect to the slave socket.

So, what happens if you plug a Lenz handset into the mM base station? Not a lot.

What happens if you plug the mM handset via a Lenz panel and XpressNet cable into the mM master socket? Not a lot.

It seems that the mM doesn't follow the 4 wire XpressNet standard. It has two extra wires (1 & 6 on the RJ12 plug) for a control bus. This means that you can't use a Lenz handset as the master controller, or even use standard faceplates or swap to 5-pin DIN plugs if you want to be able to plug your controller in somewhere else.

How did I find out? By swapping to a 'standard' Lenz DIN socket arrangement to make plugging/unplugging the controller easier. It did - but nothing works :roll:

There's nothing like standardisation.... :brickwall

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I believe it's called "marketing" nowadays Ian ...............:roll:

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After an unreasonable delay work has recommenced on the N gauge layout commission.

See the current state of play here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e5LTTbN40pg

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Enjoyed that, Ian.

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And a bit more...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sSjIVPOzWhA

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When it kept stopping, I thought "that's a load of cr#p" then I realised that, with my half meg connection speed, it was re-buffering every 10 seconds .................:lol::lol:

Looks great Ian. :cheers

Whilst penning this, do you swap chips from 3 pole motors to Halling of Austria motors ? :roll::roll:

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Petermac wrote: When it kept stopping, I thought "that's a load of cr#p" then I realised that, with my half meg connection speed, it was re-buffering every 10 seconds .................:lol::lol:

Looks great Ian. :cheers

Whilst penning this, do you swap chips from 3 pole motors to Halling of Austria motors ? :roll::roll:

I've been putting road junctions in today so the next video will feature vehicles batting about. I'd forgotten how much fun moving road vehicles are ;-).

I take it that you have given up on your DCC coffee grinder then? I'm happy to uninstall if you want - but by the time it has been posted both ways and charged for, you might as well have a new decoder in the Halling unit.

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Not given up Ian, just thinking what a waste it is to have a good bit of kit like that decoder and "thingy" attached to a pre WW1 motor.

You're probably right about having the Halling unit fitted with a new one.  I may have one sent direct to you from Austria - it would save double postage.........:roll::roll:

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Petermac wrote: I may have one sent direct to you from Austria...
A present? For me? You're far too generous! :lol:

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Ian Morton wrote: Petermac wrote: I may have one sent direct to you from Austria...
A present? For me? You're far too generous! :lol:

You can keep the Toblerone, I'll have the silly little bit of metal .....:thumbs:thumbs

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Here are a couple of pages from the forthcoming tome on DCC. I am fighting to get the title changed to something less smug!

First, the science bit - for anyone who has ever wondered how it all works...


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REMOVED AS FORUM IS NOW OPEN

As usual, comments welcome.

Usual rules - no exposure outside the forum please.

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Even I can get to grips with that Ian so, as Sol said, it must be good. :thumbs

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Coming soon to all good bookshops, not to mention one or two poor ones...



I shall be in touch with one or two members about the photos that I've used.


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I wondered what DCC stood for.

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Are signed copies also available direct from the author ? :roll:

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Congratulations!

Nice crisp cover Ian:thumbs Two questions.....other than updating what are the key differences between this book and your previous excellent volume that started me off?

Secondly when will Amazon be handling it?

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Differences?

Well, it's a hardback, it's more expensive and is prettier :lol:

More of the same really.

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:thumbsWell Done Ian, I wish your book every success.

What are you going to do now with all that spare time :cheers

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Contract is already signed for the next one....

....Harry Potter and the Peco Track Pins :mutley

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Didn't  IAN say that everyone on YMR gets free Copy????  :mutley:pathead, he's such a lovely and ahndsome man :doublethumb

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Derbys12 wrote: Didn't  IAN say that everyone on YMR gets free Copy????  :mutley:pathead, he's such a lovely and ahndsome man :doublethumb
But of course you do. The only snag is that you will have to collect them in person at the special YMR launch which will be between 14:48 and 14:50 on Rockall the day before the official publication date.

See you there :cheers

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I now have the sort of space that I have dreamed about for building a railway in. A room 30' x 15', plus separate toilet and an office/store running to another 20' x 9' or thereabouts.

The only trouble is, it's for building other people's railways...

May I present, my new workshop!





It is in this block of buildings at a business park near my home



:Happy:Happy:Happy:Happy:Happy

I move in at the end of August.

Potential clients and timewasters welcome by appointment. :mrgreen:

http://www.rodenhurstbusinesspark.co.uk/Unit_8b-c



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WOW!!, very nice space!, good luck with everything mate

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Excellent, Ian.  :thumbs  Nice big access door and plenty of light.  The carpet looks a bit suspect, though.  :lol:

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MaxSouthOz wrote: Excellent, Ian.  :thumbs  Nice big access door and plenty of light.  The carpet looks a bit suspect, though.  :lol:
The carpet will be replaced by a nice easy to clean painted floor in the workshop area.

You'll notice the en-suite tea-making facility. :lol:

Currently I am finishing off the first commission (in the living room - SWMBO consented as it was bringing in funds) with numbers two and three to christen the new premises.
It's a funny old world when people will pay someone to do their hobby for them  :hmm

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Ian Morton wrote: It's a funny old world when people will pay someone to do their hobby for them  :hmm

I don't think it happens here.  :sad:

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MaxSouthOz wrote: Ian Morton wrote: It's a funny old world when people will pay someone to do their hobby for them  :hmm

I don't think it happens here.  :sad:


Not to the same extent Max as Ian & Dave Bentley are doing , only with decoders that I am aware of.

 

Good luck Ian & I hope it brings enough in to keep the wolves from the door.

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Sol wrote:  Good luck Ian & I hope it brings enough in to keep the wolves from the door.


Too late, there's already one in the kitchen :mutley


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I'll have one of each  - the workshop and the dog !!!

Great workshop Ian - an ex-poultry house ???  Looks like a farm diversification operation ? :roll:

The dog  ?  Great. :thumbs  A golden retriever ?  We lost ours this spring and are still trying to replace her but time slots and supply problems with the "manufacturers" are delaying things.  Maybe this autumn we might have more luck.

I really hope business takes off for you in a big way.  I'm sure you've looked into it but is there a market for building "shop display layouts" for retailers or layouts for shows etc. ?  I remember Hamley's used to have a large LGB layout running around their "railway" floor.  Somebody had to build it.


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Good luck in the new premises Ian. I will try to take up your offer for a 'time waster' visit!

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Petermac wrote: I'll have one of each  - the workshop and the dog !!!

Great workshop Ian - an ex-poultry house ???  Looks like a farm diversification operation ? :roll:

The dog  ?  Great. :thumbs  A golden retriever ?  We lost ours this spring and are still trying to replace her but time slots and supply problems with the "manufacturers" are delaying things.  Maybe this autumn we might have more luck.

I really hope business takes off for you in a big way.  I'm sure you've looked into it but is there a market for building "shop display layouts" for retailers or layouts for shows etc. ?  I remember Hamley's used to have a large LGB layout running around their "railway" floor.  Somebody had to build it.



Yes, it is an ex-farmyard, yes, it is a former chicken shed and yes it is a Golden. Wonderful dogs.

One of my confirmed clients is a university who want a city scene to demonstrate and test high-tech surveillance systems. You couldn't make it up...:shock:

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That look s a really great place to build railways in Ian. I think i would invest in an alarm system if it does not have one.

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Huzzah!


Congratulations and I hope the work rolls in [that woofer looks like a real financial liability, Bonio-wise, just be glad it's not a St Bernard....or two!]


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sparky wrote: That look s a really great place to build railways in Ian. I think i would invest in an alarm system if it does not have one.

It does. The site has some nifty security features too. ;-)

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All the best in your endevours Ian and I hope the customers just keep rolling in. You deserve to be successful.

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Thank you all for your good wishes.

I just couldn't have done it without Petermac's credit card details :mutley

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Ian Morton wrote: Thank you all for your good wishes.

I just couldn't have done it without Petermac's credit card details :mutley

:mutley:mutley:mutley:mutley:mutley:mutley  (Now I know why I have to pay cash for my diesel ................:roll::roll: - only too pleased to help :hmm:hmm:hmm)

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And the workshop is up and running :Happy

There's even some space for the emporium...




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Let's hope you'll be listed on the FTSE100 as soon as possible  :thumbs

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The very best of luck with both the new business and  the new workshop Ian . 

Most modellers would give their eye teeth for a layout room like that.

I shall have to make sure I file a copy of this picture as its the first public view of TEALHAM MOOR .:lol: :lol:

(That last  remark should get the tongues wagging !!!!!  :twisted::twisted::twisted: )

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Believe it or not there are six (yes six) layouts already lurking around in the workshop. Hatton Parkway, Shake-the-Box and Fete Worse Than Death are now resident - the first two for display, the latter as a DCC test track. There are three layouts under construction. An N gauge railway with Faller Car System, the 10' x 4' creature which so far consists of the baseboard frames and this - at the mock up stage.



Mind you, the client is an awkward so-and-so :mutley

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Moi - Awkward ...... NAH !!!!!                                                            :pedal

 

I wonder if it would work in 5.5mm Scale , US O Gauge , P4 or HOn3         :hmm

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AHA!  Now I know what the little green loco was for all that time ago............apart from winding up SWMBO, as in 'Ooh! Isn't it sweet, can we have one?'

[I got an apple and cinnamon crumble on the basis of a 'Well, maybe....' for that one]


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It's probably powered by a Halling motor ................:roll::roll::roll:

I hear they're quite good. ;-)

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Petermac wrote: It's probably powered by a Halling motor ................:roll::roll::roll:

I hear they're quite good. ;-)

They're out of shot to the left. They've got a good turn of speed for a tram. Nicely run in now so I'd better get another of those decoders from BromsMods.

The little green loco is the stunt double for whatever creation the client intends  to run on it. But I have had an idea for a little layout for it until I get around to something bigger...

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The little green loco is the stunt double for whatever creation the client intends  to run on it. But I have had an idea for a little layout for it until I get around to something bigger...


 

Here is a picture of Tealham Moor's entire loco fleet . I have now started a thread for the layout.

 



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There isn't room for all that lot! :shock:

Typical modeller - too many locos for the layout (or is that too small a layout for the locos) :lol:

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... and the scenery is rubbish, too.
(at least the camera isn't doing it any favours!).

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Thanks for your concern but worry not as the line will be operated on "One engine in steam" principal .  :roll:

The diesel is yet to be motorised so will be confined to the work bench for the forseeable future and the foreign thingy is spare in case the Peckett is broken down or being serviced so probably wont come out the box - sorry I mean shed.

Anyway how many modellers do you know that dont have far too many locos or vehicles for their layouts but always seem to find an exccuse  for why its needed when a new one is brought out by the manufacturers.

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Do you mind - that foam sheet isn't rubbish, it is high quality salvage :roll:.

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I was speaking of Richard's 71st post. :lol:

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ddolfelin wrote: ... and the scenery is rubbish, too.
(at least the camera isn't doing it any favours!).


 

If you mean the scenic backdrop then the builder needs to know both SWMBO and my lady support worker , neither of whom could be remotely described as railway enthusiats think and have said  its a superb bit of modelling that I should be both proud and honoured to possess .

More than my lifes worth to disagree  - even if I wanted to ( which I dont.):lol:

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Shake-the-Box had an outing to the SVR Gala today and one of the questions asked was "That's good. Is it static grass?"

Nope, common old hanging basket liner.

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Can you tell what it is yet?

(No points will be awarded for the answer "dodgy carpentry" although both correct and accurate :roll:.)

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A bed for someone with back pain.

Or would like some.

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Going by the gradients . . . a slot car track?    :lol:

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Wheeltapper wrote: Anyway how many modellers do you know that dont have far too many locos or vehicles for their layouts but always seem to find an exccuse  for why its needed when a new one is brought out by the manufacturers.

I'm certainly guilty....:oops:

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Ian Morton wrote:

Can you tell what it is yet?

(No points will be awarded for the answer "dodgy carpentry" although both correct and accurate :roll:.)

A roller coaster ride for midgets??

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This should explain everything...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LOO9dnyZ8-c

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Great stuff.  :thumbs     Slot buses!

That Faller system seems to work well, Ian.  Is it easy to set up?

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Gobsmacked at the performance.
Is it slots?
No layout will be complete without an extensive stock of vehicles.
Unless one is modelling the M25 then statics will do.

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Just like to say thanks for Awesome service Ian, ordered from you yesterday morning and goods arrived today!, brilliant mate.:o)

 

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Impressive stuff with the vehicles. I assume this to be set in foreign parts from the orientation of the roads. Does the system avoid collisions or are you reliant on all moving at the same speed?

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What's the tightest curve you have on there Ian?

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ElDavo wrote: Impressive stuff with the vehicles. I assume this to be set in foreign parts from the orientation of the roads. Does the system avoid collisions or are you reliant on all moving at the same speed?

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No thats not modelled on foreign roads - its the way they drive around Telford !!    :mutleyas their road system there even gives Milton Keynes and Swindon a Good Name !!!!!!!

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Is it me, or are all those vehicles on the wrong side of the road ?

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Slots? How quaint. No, purely by magic.

The roadway has been laid out as mainland Europe to avoid having to prat around converting the stock Faller vehicles.

You can do clever things to avoid rear-end shunts, but for this phase of the project it relies on the operator stopping or rerouting vehicles to avoid RTAs.

The tightest curve is in a superstore car park (Aeki - a very backward place) but on the main roads they vary between 7" and 9".

The big office block looming in the background will be the traffic control centre (OK - it will have the control panel in it).

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Now there's a coincidence Ian.  We went to Aeki in Bordeaux today ................:thumbs

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The dual carriageway now has its full compliment of white lines.



Meanwhile the N gauge layout has street lights.

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I must say the slight unevenness of the carriageway adds to the effect, Ian - at least in the movie.  Was that deliberate?

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It is more obvious in the video than reality. I'd like to say it was planned...;-)

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And now for something completely different...

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I think the tunnel mouths are a bit small... (well, they are in the first picture...)

Plus, it seems a shame to waste all the baseboard behind the backscene, could you not angle the backscene from front left to back right (as viewed above) to allow more room for scenics ? (the curved track could be in a cutting) ?

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Stubby47 wrote: I think the tunnel mouths are a bit small... (well, they are in the first picture...)

Plus, it seems a shame to waste all the baseboard behind the backscene, could you not angle the backscene from front left to back right (as viewed above) to allow more room for scenics ? (the curved track could be in a cutting) ?


 

Dont blame Ian  , Stu!!!  He is just doing what a particularly awkward customer has asked him to do. No prizes for guessing who that is !

All will become clear in time but I will just  say they are not tunnel mouths and the back scene has been positioned that way for a reason .

Watch this space ;-)

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I guessed it was for you Richard, and I appreciate you have your own design plan - I was just musing what I might have been tempted to do.

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Well guv, the openings in the backscene will all be hidden by buildings, trees and such like. As for the spare space - it ain't that big and I suspect it will get filled with spare stock.

Oops - Richard beat me to it and I've blown his secret :oops:

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Stubby47 wrote: I guessed it was for you Richard, and I appreciate you have your own design plan - I was just musing what I might have been tempted to do.

No problem Stu .

Mind you by the time I have read your muse you will no doubt have done a micro of it.        :roll::twisted::lol:

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Wheeltapper wrote: Stubby47 wrote: I guessed it was for you Richard, and I appreciate you have your own design plan - I was just musing what I might have been tempted to do.

No problem Stu .

Mind you by the time I have read your muse you will no doubt have done a micro of it.        :roll::twisted::lol:

No! Must resist, must resist...

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Cheers,John.B.:thumbs

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Yes, that looks very nice Ian. :thumbs

What is it ? (other than a block of flats/offices :roll:) i.e. What make is it - a "Morton Special" or what ?

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In fact it hides the control panel - hence the rather large size.

It is coated with low-relief building kits from JoWi Modellbahn-Hintergrund.

http://s265088309.e-shop.info/shop/category_17/CDs-mit-Druckvorlagen-f%C3%BCr-Halbrelief--und-Vollgeb%C3%A4ude-(H0-TT-N-Z).html?sessid=s9gCpiIZGwBMKSQfDoRXgYDvIbZdWDhImOVwyAUnvpykvwEojG14PInNADZoHBRR&shop_param=cid%3D%26

They come on a CD - you can't download them like Scalescenes - and are produced from photos that have been suitably doctored.

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They're not cheap Ian ! :shock:

The "Industrial" one looks good.  Is the "backscene" bit just an illustration of what can be achieved, is it the original source of the buildings or does it come on the CD ready to print off ?

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Each CD contains a selection of low relief buildings, some sky and some flat buildings to go on the backscene in HO, TT, N and Z scales. And they are a lot cheaper than the equivalent Kibri, Vollmer or Faller kit!

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You get all the gauges on the one CD Ian ? :shock:  I didn't realise that.  In your position, it makes a lot of sense as you presumably build in all gauges.

For me, whilst as you say, they're cheaper than the "normal" German offerings, they still looked a little on the high side compared with say Scalescenes.

Actually, I might retract that last statement because you may get more buildings for your money. 

How "easy" are they to build ? i.e are they quick ?

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