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As mentioned in my new thread for a small station Charde, I need a long viaduct so I will be using the Scalescenes R017 made up with 7 arches.
The photo below supplied to me by John Wiffen ( with thanks) shows part in brick, mine will be with random Ashlar stone.



Now the fun starts & to make it interesting, on a slight curve at one end & a rising gradient at the same time.

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I#ll be watching this Ron, i have bought the viaduct to be the entry to the fiddle yard. I just hope a double track will go under an arch, the top will be a roadway.

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As I said in the other thread Sol, I too am looking forward to this one - oh, nearly forgot - thanks for the curve. :thumbs:thumbs:lol:

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This is for Petermac



showing the curve that will be needed & at the same time climbs nearly 25mm/ 1 ".

That was the easy part - now the fun starts !!!!! as I intend to try to build it in situ.

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Starting from track base, a piece of 3mm MDF cut to size & covered with the paper base.




That part was easy - now to start on the arches.
Note that in this station, no other track base will be used to raise the track above ground level.  I have glued cork over the entire station area & the reason for this will become clear when I commence track laying.

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The curve seems to have gone, Sol.

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That's going to be quite impressive Sol. :thumbs




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MaxSouthOz wrote: The curve seems to have gone, Sol.
The track is not anchored down yet so I can include a curve again.

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Still have stone edges to install on the track base but decided to have a look at installing arches.



Of course, with my viaduct on a gradient, the arches look like this


they are supposed to be under the track base so I cut another single arch out, glued to thin card & cut to fit as a temporary means



as this was successful, I am now gluing the back piece onto the proper arch & will test it again later.  Each arch will therefore be a separate entity.

This is what I get for diverting from the norm !

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The thin card arch replaced with the correct unit


The curved part of the  arch used a paint tin slightly smaller than needed to get a smooth curve


The two sides now joined with  the arch which had to be shortened.



Another 5 arches to go & be joined with buttresses then work on the top walls, etc.
To hide the white edges, as my texta of the correct colour had run out, I used weathering powders rubbed with my finger.

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And following on from the process I used in the Goods Shed & Station buildings, I have also made the  stones that form the arch also with a 3D  effect by gluing another half circle of stones onto thin card, cutting them out, grey weathering powder on the edges & sticking it over the existing flat printed version. I think it makes it  look a bit different.




 

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It's looking good Sol - I like the avocado arches .........................:roll::roll:

Are you going to fit a parapet on top of the trackbed and, what did you use to make the copings along the trackbed - looks good ?

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Yes Peter,a parapet along the top & the copings are part of the download. It is a versatile kit in having side approaches if required,  it has both double & single track road base & arches.
The hardest part is cutting the thick card for the arches.

The Avocado is the colour I paint my facias like this



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Looks great Ron...........you become an expert with these Scalescene Kits..............I am sure using a card kit is going to give you a much neater model than using plastic particularly with a curve and an incline

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Household duties, etc slowed things down a bit but 4 basic arches done - 2 to go, then add buttresses, then go to top for the parapet, etc..


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Very tasty Sol. :thumbs

What is the covering under the arches - above where the stone piers stop.? 

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A photo of that tomorrow, Peter

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That's progressing really quickly. It looks good already, so I expect the final result to be superb. :thumbs

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Petermac wrote: Very tasty Sol. :thumbs

What is the covering under the arches - above where the stone piers stop.? 

Here we are Peter, 3 shots of underneath, they represent the finished stonework.

The first one shows a slight lip on the far side, not easy keeping it straight as it is only paper thickness joining the arch to the outer wall edge but anyone who can get their down to see, good luck to them.



A closeup of the printed paper-


Brown marks are off my fingers as I weathered the edges with weathering powders.

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wogga wrote: I#ll be watching this Ron, i have bought the viaduct to be the entry to the fiddle yard. I just hope a double track will go under an arch, the top will be a roadway.

Regards

Pete


Pete, I thought this photo ( yes slightly out of focus) will give you the idea of space for double tracks.
I set the  tracks with 6ft way between centre rails = 24mm so centre- centre is 40mm & a bit close on each arch side



With some minor effort & time, you could add say another 1/2"/ 12mm in width to the top of the arch .

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Slowly getting there - some buttresses now fitted & the end stone wall.



I made a mistake when I first cut the MDF for the base - I made it 4mm too narrow so some buttresses are only one thickness, not the two but all will work out OK ( I hope)

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They really are great models from Scalescenes Sol - the stonework under the arches look good and, one the buttresses are in place, it takes on a look of a "sturdy" structure.  Just like the real thing.

I think you made a good choice in the random stone. :thumbs

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I now see from these photos, I may have to add additional flat stones to line up which the adjacent arch.

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Sol wrote:

Pete, I thought this photo ( yes slightly out of focus) will give you the idea of space for double tracks.
I set the  tracks with 6ft way between centre rails = 24mm so centre- centre is 40mm & a bit close on each arch side


With some minor effort & time, you could add say another 1/2"/ 12mm in width to the top of the arch .


Cheers for checking Ron it is a bit tight which is a shame, i was sat on a plate girder bridge the other day so plan B, Plate girder spanning the rails and the viaduct arches either side. I need the arches cos one side is having a garage on a street scene not original i know.

Still watching your mini Ribbleshead

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The bottom arches - 6 of - "finished" - weathering later together with ground work & terrain.



Now to start on the top part.

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Excellent.  :thumbs   Is the track ballasted in?

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MaxSouthOz wrote: Excellent.  :thumbs   Is the track ballasted in?
Not yet, it has to be anchored & rails cut as it goes onto top station area, then painted then ballasted.

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The start of the parapet walls. First photo shows one section that covers two arches - double thickness card & the paper to be glued & wrapped & the second photo shows it wrapped. 6 full length sides  9"/ 23cm plus 4 shorter ones required.




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You must be chuffed so far Ron, the second photo of the parapet wall looks so good i love the capping.

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Yes, quite neat in the way the capping has been created. The fact that I made the deck 4mm too narrow will create a small problem but I think it will come out OK as long as anyone who gets caught on the bridge & has to take shelter in refuges is only 1 ft fat, they will be OK ! When I go to glue things on, I will take some more Box Brownie shots.

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Sol wrote:  The fact that I made the deck 4mm too narrow will create a small problem but I think it will come out OK as long as anyone who gets caught on the bridge & has to take shelter in refuges is only 1 ft fat, they will be OK ! When I go to glue things on, I will take some more Box Brownie shots.

Iam afraid I do that. I find I fret a lot about it at the time but once the section is completed the implausible bit can hardly be seen (fortunately)..............the viaduct is so good Ron nobody will ever notice the diet requirements and you will forget!

Like Pete I love the wall

 

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...the viaduct is so good Ron nobody will ever notice the diet requirements and you will forget!



 

Especially if I have some young people cavorting around in the fields/water I plan to have below the arches, they should take any viewers eyes away from any mistakes  :mutley     ( the same principle another YMRer uses on his beach I think :pedal)

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The top now finished, track to be painted etc but this will have to do for a while. I have a few other modelling things to get started/finished now.



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Great thread Sol - very useful.  I'll be needing a viaduct at Ottersford but it will cross a river, the line to the docks & will be on a curve with four tracks (see layout plan on pg1). So really looking forward to tackling that! I assume that 'scalescenes' stone finish is not 3D? Hard to believe as it's very effective.  What printer do you use?  Mal

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Mal, I did not get it curved as I thought I would - Keep that part for the next one is years time.
Yes the paper is not 3D but effective & I use an EPSON NX220 printer.

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Looks brilliant Sol. :thumbs:thumbs

I don't think I'd have any problems with those refuges ....................:roll::roll::roll::roll::roll:

The stone makes it somehow appear more of an imprssive structure to me than with brick.  I love the random ashlar.:cheers

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It looks great, Sol.  :thumbs  You must be very pleased with it.

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Yes, I am happy with in & looking forward to finishing with details on & around it.

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As some of you may know, I'm not a great fan of card models but I have to admit, that looks really good. Nice work, Ron. :thumbs

It looks really 'heavy' and substantial - just the way it should.

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Congratulations on a fine job, Ron.

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Lovely job Sol.I'm with Petermac on the use of Random Ashlar.Good choice,it looks more impressive than brick.

Cheers,John.B.:thumbs

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Rail & sleepers painted a flat brown & ballasted




Taken from Charde end.

 

The next one is at the other end looking towards the point & junction. Right hand track goes to Durston underneath Charde.



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Poop poop... looks the part Ron.

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Nice to see a touch of the Irish there Sol...  how much Irish rolling stock do you have?

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gdaysydney wrote: Nice to see a touch of the Irish there Sol...  how much Irish rolling stock do you have?
3 locos, Dave, that is it- coz I do like those small diesels.  I obtained them from my mate who still has 3 plus a load of carriages that Murphys models released.

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Sol wrote: The top now finished, track to be painted etc but this will have to do for a while. I have a few other modelling things to get started/finished now.



:shock: Nice 142 Sol!!!
Excellent work on the viaduct

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Hi Ron

Just read the full thread - Nice one.

As for the flatness of the card, as a test I tried printing on to textured watercolour paper (off cuts from my local art shop) with the stone dock side walls and it made a vast difference, just enough to stop it looking flat.

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Surprisingly Paul, that random Ashlar stone does not give the imprssion of flattness in the model- photos do not show it the best though.

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wogga wrote: Sol wrote:

Pete, I thought this photo ( yes slightly out of focus) will give you the idea of space for double tracks.
I set the  tracks with 6ft way between centre rails = 24mm so centre- centre is 40mm & a bit close on each arch side


With some minor effort & time, you could add say another 1/2"/ 12mm in width to the top of the arch .




Cheers for checking Ron it is a bit tight which is a shame, i was sat on a plate girder bridge the other day so plan B, Plate girder spanning the rails and the viaduct arches either side. I need the arches cos one side is having a garage on a street scene not original i know.

Still watching your mini Ribbleshead

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Hi Pete,

I realise this is an old thread but, for future reference, to increase the arch width you could print the Scalescenes kit at say 10% oversize which should then give you the extra sideways clearance you need. It would be slightly overscale but not enough to be noticable. Increasing the height of the support pillars would also increase the side clearance.

Nice piece of work Sol. :thumbs

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It was about time I did some more to the viaduct & surrounds as it is the focal point upon entering the layout room so so far I have done the base for the marshland under the viaduct. The "water" will be shallow & full of junk, etc, & will be either coat or two of varnish or Magic Water


plaster was still wet and now painted a tan colour.

the far end by the tunnel mouth


now with some colour added ( glue still wet !)


bit by bit, this will change to the better hopefully.

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Nice one Ron
That river has to female, with that many changes of direction :mutley
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Blimey. Nothing for 2½ years and then a sudden burst of progress. 

Looking very good though Ron and should be a real feature when finished.

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paul_l wrote: Nice one Ron
That river has to female, with that many changes of direction :mutley
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It's looking really good sol.  What a difference that bit of green has made. :thumbs

Is the plaster just "plaster" ?  It looks a bit like baked meringue with that browny/pinky tinge.  Here, plaster would normally be be white. :thumbs

Looking forward to seeing the marsh take shape - a great idea. :thumbs:thumbs

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Is the plaster just "plaster" ?  It looks a bit like baked meringue with that browny/pinky tinge.  Here, plaster would normally be be white. :thumbs



yes Peter,  normal white plaster with coloured poster powders added so that if it gets chipped. not so white looking.
then painted with a tan colour and the occasional dark brown wash before adding grass colours, etc

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bit more done...  purchased a tin of gloss clear paint today to try over the weekend after a lot of "junk, etc" added into the watery areas.

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...after a lot of "junk, etc" added into the watery areas...

...and here I am looking for old cars, shopping trolleys, bicycles, oil drums... ;-);-)  Regardless, it does looks good. :thumbs  

Cheers, Gary.

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Coming along nicely Ron, looking forward to seeing it when the junk is added, it'll add a bit more character to that marshy area.

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That looks marshy Ron :thumbs


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Hi Members When workmates heard that I went all round the country(day trip allowing) to photograph railway viaducts and even canal aqueducts, their suspicions about me were confirmed "Complete Nutter". But the most impressive viaduct that I ever saw was at Chinley, with a Junction on the viaduct. Passed Driver

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Furst class see-nicking, Ron, I can hear the moss-keetoes!

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That looks so good Ron I'm squinting looking for Crocs! And the Viaduct looks like its been there for ever

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a very good scene you have now Ron,am taking notes as I am about to start on mine ,
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more done with new gloss varnish & that dries clear

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Your making a good job of that marshy area under the viaduct Ron. Is it any good for a bit of fishing? or is that not in your plans? I'm well impressed all the same!


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Hi There Terrific, I am trying to run before I can walk, again, but I would like to incorporate a Viaduct on my layout but I must stick to my branch line plan, maybe I can Find a way round, in the background perhaps?? I would have to make a "Rock Solid" viaduct as I am so clumsy,any ideas? Passed Driver

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now varnish has dried.

The sun is shining on it !!

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Looks the business Ron.:thumbs

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the other side greeened up, varnish to be added then bits & pieces


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Wow wow and wow

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Jimmy, you missed off a 'Wow'...here, have one of mine..Wow!

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"almost" finished



under one arch

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That as they say Ron is a masterpiece.

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Hello,




That really is rather good. well Done




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Happy Sunday All I am really keen on the idea of a Viaduct, but I am at the planning stage, and this is the important stage with a permanent structure! as you all know
but I have read so many ideas about "Ballasting". The question is which ever way you choose to lay your track, how do you lay track on a Model Viaduct? Passed Driver

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but I have read so many ideas about "Ballasting". The question is which ever way you choose to lay your track, how do you lay track on a Model Viaduct? Passed Driver

Kevin, on my viaduct, using Peco flex track, I pinned it to the cardboard that makes up the viaduct with Peco SL14 track pins, then ballast in the "normal" manner using watery PVA - of course the entire viaduct was sprayed first with  matt varnish to protect the paper & card from moisture.

I guess I could have glued the track down with a few dobs of contact cement/PVA, etc but pinning it allowed me to ballast straight away.

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 That`s one fine piece of work there Ron.

 Well done !!:thumbs:thumbs:thumbs:thumbs

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