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MaxSouthOz wrote: Very neat, Dave.  :thumbs   Is it OK with the buffers?
No problem so far Max -  with the loco in the middle of the two autocoaches I have fitted with Kadees they both navigate the smallest radius I have on my layout ( 2nd radius)



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The real coal is a huge improvement Dave  :thumbs  I like the idea of one with a half filled bunker.  Also, I can see the LMS/
LNER region moving over to those Kadees at some stage ......................:roll:



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You can never have too many Panniers on a GWR layout

Great Pics Dave.......I particularly liked the City of Truro

I hadnt realised you had to shim the kaydee coupling when fitted to the newer panniers.....cant remember the number I used but they seemed ok......you have me worried now

Thats a very pristine roof on the autocoach but I guess you are running in Devon as opposed to the grimy North West! Is that the one with the pick ups installed?

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John Dew wrote: You can never have too many Panniers on a GWR layout

Great Pics Dave.......I particularly liked the City of Truro

I hadnt realised you had to shim the kaydee coupling when fitted to the newer panniers.....cant remember the number I used but they seemed ok......you have me worried now

Thats a very pristine roof on the autocoach but I guess you are running in Devon as opposed to the grimy North West! Is that the one with the pick ups installed?

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Thanks for the feedback John,

re Kadees -  it was only a minor adjustment as I found the #19 Kadee drooped a bit - a thin shim ( actually just folded over paper was enough to hold them at the correct height.

At this stage I'm still practising weathering on some old redundant rolling stock before I let loose on the others.  Both Autocoaches were second hand - one had been modified with handrails on the door.  I haven't got around to putting pick ups on them yet - thats on my "to do list".

Looking at standard of the other layouts ( including yours) I have spend the day working on what will be the preserved railway depot ( good excuse to have the GWR on the layout :cool:)

I am still working on the terminus - bought another Metcalfe kit but progress is slow - too many interesting distractions and unfinished jobs ( like finishing the RR&Co Automation - or is that a job for life?)



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gdaysydney wrote: So, where are the piccies?




The Airfix coach has a Dapol type coupling.  I removed the old coupling, unclipped the housing and filed down the mounting pin and then inserted a NEM #19 Kadee which was just the right length - after positioning it was superglued in place.
 This was the end result - what do you reckon Sol ?



Runs like a charm with metal wheels replacing the original plastic ones.  I am now thinking of adding a working lamp to the front (bell) end - although it would need to be decoder driven.  ( note emphasis on thinking - I have to check out whether DCC Concepts sell a dual colour lamp - one that could change from white to red dependent on the direction in travel.)


Update
After speaking to Richard at DCC Concepts it turns out that the lamps that have dual leds (red & white) are guards lights  with the leds on opposite side.   Nevertheless I decided to give at least one of my auto-coaches working lights with the compromise being two lamps - one white in the middle centre just under the windows and the other, red , just above the left hand buffer.  So as not to make the fact that there are two lamps I fitted DCC concepts black loco lamps.
Getting inside the auto-coach was easy as the roof just clips on/off.  The body is attached to the frame by 4 Phillips screws so problems there either.  At this point I decided that if I was going to fit pickups I would go the whole hog and fit interior lights ( using DCC concepts flicker free). 
The whole job took about four hours from start to finish - I will post a photo when the sun goes down;-)



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Autocoach - fitting decoder
 - I had to use a spare motor and attach it to the grey and orange decoder leads so that the programming track recognised the  decoder- I was then able to program the decoder as normal. This will be a real pain if I have to change the CV settings in the future - does anyone know if putting a suitable value resistor across the two wires will enable the decoder to be recognised without the need to take the roof off every time?

The Flicker free lights have the ability to be decoder operated ( I didn't set this up as was only using a 2 function decoder but in future I have some old NCE 4 function decoders in my locos that I will replace - this will give me the option to turn the interior lights on/off )



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I reckon you have done a good job with fitting the Kadee couplers.



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Thanks Sol  :thumbs
- does that mean I'm now on my green P's:mutley



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Some photos as promised
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red light when travelling at the rear of the set




White lamp when travelling forward




Interior lighting

The brass wire in the first two photos are the lamp handles as supplied - up close they look a tad weird but from normal viewing distance they look OK - I'm undecided about them at present - up close they look over scale



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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tyGttuHwUY4&context=C3c0754bADOEgsToPDskJw5_5VJVSolfXvBVNaxL-_


This is a video taken with Truck Cam  and shows a GWR Pannier in between  two autocoaches. The first autocaoch has the modifications..
 

This is another brief video - my very first using Truck Cam -

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ply2E7mrN0c&feature=mfu_in_order&list=UL

(the chirping birds in the background are the ambient sounds from RR&Co that are triggered when a loco runs over a designated piece of track )








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Just found this on You tube -  someone doing a similar thing but has managed to find a dual colour lamp ( I'm checking on this)
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John  - Doesn't the Pannier sound good !! :mutley

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6uhQ1mVK6kQ&feature=related



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Hi Dave

Great videos.....once I got my new browser (Firefox) sorted out. I do agree that Pannier sound is becoming very addictive:roll:

I am inclined to think that your solution with the black painted lamps is better than a single lamp because the placing is going to be wrong......bottom left means a goods train!......I am sure centre for the rear light would be frowned upon.

How did you resolve the decoder issue with RR&Co?

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John Dew wrote:
How did you resolve the decoder issue with RR&Co?

First I set the autocoach up as a "car" and I could form a "train set" but could not get the lamps on the autocoach to change automatically with the direction of travel.  I currently have it set up as an "engine" ( with its own unique engine No ). This has one small down side in that if I am operating the layout manually I have to create a "consist" using my NCE controller.
The upside is that I can choose which loco to use . Have put a "stay alive" decoder into an old Dapol 14xx  and now just need  to fit it with Kadee's ( given up on the Dinghams for the time being )



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I enjoyed train sandwich video, and your 56XX further down..:thumbs:pathead

 

V. clever.

 

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One of my many tasks ( they seem to be never ending) was to go through the locos that have sat patiently in their boxes waiting to be let loose on Not North Road ( if only for a few laps!). Some will never make it - they are either poor runners and have either a  split frame or tender drive  and are destined for the scrap heap.  Others like the one below create mixed emotions - bought second hand on a whim - bloody useless as a running model - but too unusual to get rid of..


Rocket - posing on the layout when the power was off

I have thought about set a a Museum feature and running the loco on a straight piece of track ( pickups are too unreliable for curves or points !)   I could hide a decoder in one of the wagons...:???:

But I let the thoughts pass and put in back into its Commemorative box. This time I took a photo. :roll:



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No comment on the Rocket.......I agree with you about tender drive.....but split chassis?......Courage mon brave.



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John Dew wrote: but split chassis?......Courage mon brave.

I have made a few split chassis conversions to DCC  ( the most recent a Bachmann Pannier) but I have learnt from many wasted hours that the loco has to be a DC good runner otherwise the hours spent on conversion are not worth it.  For example I had a number of Bachmann Manors which another of my favourite Locos  carefully worked away at converting in the vague hope that they would be better runners when converted to DCC - whilst I achieved better motor response at low speed I could not get around the problem of the wheels being slighty off centre - due in part to those pesky split plastic axles which with my fiddling just did that - they split totally !:cry:




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Hi Dave

I agree.....a good runner in DC is a pre requisite. Curiously I have two manors and both were good DC runners and converted fine but I came across the "pesky split axis" syndrome with a LMS patriot and I had to cannabalise a non runner for a replacement!

You maybe in luck the rumour mill at RMWeb suggests retooled or at least rechassissed Manors and Moguls are a possibility in Bachmann's 2012 list



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Work on the auto-coaches has been slow due to other distractions -  upgrading my Dapol kit made wagons with Kadee couplers ( now that I have discovered that its very easy) and putting a DCC Concepts guards van light on a Dapol kit built guards van.

Meanwhile I discovered the other night, whilst running the layout in total darkness,  that the roof of the auto-coach that has been fitted with interior lighting glows like a torch- I have applied two coats of matt black paint to the inside of the roof so hopefully that will fix the problem.



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Work on the layout has been slow this month.  No particular reason other than I've been making the most of the warm and longer days before daylight saving ends .

I may have mentioned before that I am a closeted collector - not in the buy them and keep them in the box , the buy them , put a decoder in them, run them on the layout for about 3 months then put them away and bring them out now and then kind.

So it comes as no surprise that after several attempts to build and motorise the  Dapol railcar kit that would run reliably - I pre-ordered a Heljan railcar - the W&M Railbus - even though to my knowledge it never made an appearance in the West Country which means it will have to run under the guise of a Railtour special or be confined to the "preserved railway" that runs next to the mainline.
The box from Hatton's was sent by City Link ( ordered that long ago it predated my poor experience with this carrier) and took about three weeks to arrive rather than the one to two weeks that I can rely on with Royal Mail. The model looked splendid as I carefully removed it from its blue box - but wait a minute - no paperwork - no instructions - all the usual stuff was missing !:shock:
A subsequent email to Hattons and a very prompt reply confirmed this was a one off and not some attempt at cost cutting on the part of the manufacturer.

So why am I telling you all this?  If you are a DC user then you can stop here - the model ran beautifully straight out of the box but if you are a DCC user then the nightmare was only just beginning.....

Despite my lack of instructions I was determined to have this model running on my layout so I used the DC running-in time, to search the Internet - ah some kind soul had posted a video of how to install a decoder on you tube - but it started with the body removed. My problem was that I couldn't find out how to get that far... kept searching and eventually found someone had taken the time to post not only instructions but pictures on RM Web.

I won't go into detail but to get anywhere inside this model you first have to remove the horns that are mounted on the roof and hide access to two screws... failed that one - despite all my efforts - I failed to balance care with the brute strength required to remove the pair of horns.  Took note of the warning in the on-line posts to be careful of the handrails ( this warning is not in the manufacturers instructions that I didn't have) but I still haven't been able to get them back on.
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This is the link to the step by step instructions for anyone who is interested
/www.pearsonsweb.com/Modelling/item04032012.shtml

This model gets my award for the "trickiest install for a newly released model"

Now my problem is do I put an order in for the AC Railcar - due for release later in the year - that one did run in the West Country

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