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Sol Former Member
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Back to this job - paper glued to the three different thicknesses of card some of the paper edges line up with card edges - this will save effort in cutting - especially on the thickest card. |
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ddolfelin Straight man to the stars. 
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Good example of lickin 'n' stickin, Ron.
____________________ http://dddioramas.webs.com/ 11 + 2 = 12 + 1 |
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Stubby47 Welsh exile 
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John, would it be too difficult to include both window frame options in the kit, so the user has the choice of printing white or black frames ? Stu ____________________ Stubby47's Model Buildings - http://www.styubby47.co.uk All photos I post are ©Stu Hilton, but are free for use by anyone. The Chacewater to Newquay Railway: Shepherds Halt, Shepherds Station, The Treamble Branch |
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Petermac Moderator 
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What do you glue the sheets to the card with Sol ? I think Scalescenes recommend glue sticks like Pritt. I couldn't get it to work without air pockets at first and found it dried too quickly in summer out here. By glueing both the paper and the card, I now get a good bond but do have to work fairly quickly. I wonder if ordinary wallpaper paste would work but then it might stretch the printed paper............  On 4th edit !! I really must load up the spell checker - as ever, my fingers work faster than my brain !!!! ____________________ 'Petermac |
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John Dew Full Member 
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Photographers spray mount (in an aerosol) is good
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Sol Former Member
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Stubby47 wrote: John, would it be too difficult to include both window frame options in the kit, so the user has the choice of printing white or black frames ? Stu, on transparency film, black or dark coloured is easy - white no , as most 99.9% of printers can't do white ink. On paper, white is easy, just have a border of a dark colour & leave the inside blank & let the white paper do the trick. I can understand Scalescenes going the way he did for this as the number of windows is small & would just fill a quarter of an A4 sheet . Gluing the paper to card - yes, I have heard of the spray but have not used it. All of the above, used glue stick liberally ( temp was around 25c) - in two cases, before Ipressed it down, I lifted the paper & re-positioned it OK. On the goods shed, I used PVA for some & for gluing folded edges, even Super Glue. Glue stick that I use is Bostik BluSk - goes on blue so you can see where you missed it & dries clear. |
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Ian Morton Former Member
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I cheat and use A4 size self-adhesive labels for the sheets that need to be stuck to card. No fuss, no mess. |
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Petermac Moderator
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Thanks Sol.  Photographers spray mount would be superb but it costs a fortune !! Do the self adhesive labels allow for any repositioning Ian ? Also, what do they cost ? I'm retired and of Scottish ancestry so anything that costs more than a couple of bent pennies is a no-no for me (but I'm not as tight as Doug ......  )Once I've got the print glued to the card, I use PVA for all the assembly including folding round the corners etc. - neatly applied from my Fine Tip Applicator.  ____________________ 'Petermac |
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Sol Former Member
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Front & back walls done of one module - mainly to show off the 3d effect of thinker window & door Lintels There must be an easier way of cutting windows & doors out of thick card !! Makes me think of getting a Metcalfe building & re-clading with Scalescenes papers. |
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Petermac Moderator
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It is indeed a slow and tedious job Sol. I tend to use a brand new scalpel blade and allow for several cups of coffee ................ Do you "prick" the window corners first ? I'm not sure if it was Doug or Perry (or both) who suggested it on here but it really does help both in allowing for a tidy cut and positioning the knife point ready for the cut. ____________________ 'Petermac |
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Sol Former Member
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Yes, corners are OK, it is just the time needed and coffee as you say but I suppose the hobby is not a fast hobby. | |||||||||
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Petermac Moderator
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Sol wrote: .......................................................... but I suppose the hobby is not a fast hobby. I'm evidence of that Sol ...........  ____________________ 'Petermac |
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Ian Morton Former Member
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Petermac wrote:Do the self adhesive labels allow for any repositioning Ian ? Also, what do they cost ? I'm retired and of Scottish ancestry so anything that costs more than a couple of bent pennies is a no-no for me (but I'm not as tight as Doug ......No, you can't reposition them - but as you are sticking it to a blank sheet of card you don't need to. As for cost - the last pack I purchased from Staples came out at about 12p per label. Probably much cheaper on a well-known auction site. And for the question you didn't ask - how good is the glue? Well, if you have ever tried to get a sticky address label off a cardboard box you'll know  |
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Petermac Moderator
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Thanks Ian. I didn't need to ask how good the glue is - as you so rightly say, these self-adhesive labels are tough !!! Thinking about it again, are the labels totally matt and easy to feed into any printer ? Also, whilst you are correct in saying that you're glueing to a blank piece of card, I tend to line up one edge with a straight edge on the card to minimise any waste. I suppose it's a question of glue line strength and cost of glue sticks vs cost of labels .......... There is also of course, a saving in time but it would take me quite a few minutes to get to my nearest Staples branch from here ............. ____________________ 'Petermac |
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Ian Morton Former Member
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Petermac wrote: Thanks Ian. Yes they are matt and designed for ink jet and laser printers. ebay is your friend here - an example picked at random: http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/100-Sheet-A4-Self-Adhesive-Address-Shipping-Label-Paper-/320565486183 (no connection - never used this supplier, just to show what I mean). |
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Petermac Moderator
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Ah - item located in China - 14 US postage  Suddenly, Staples seems much closer but I do see what you mean Ian........... ____________________ 'Petermac |
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Sol Former Member
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Office module windows & doors. As mentioned before, the windows are not printed on clear sheet but normal paper, cut out & glued to clear sheet which I have done - a steady hand is required. I also glued additional doors to thin card, cut them out to give a 3D effect like I did with the goods shed. Close up, they may look c**p but a couple of feet away, OK, I think.  Shows one cutout door glued over the existing paper print & two more ready to be glued. I did not worry about having them partly opened.  |
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ddolfelin Straight man to the stars.
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That's about the only way you could do it, Ron - and that door doesn't look bad at all. If I were doing it, I'd probably mark with a scalpel and cut from the back but all will be obscured with paint. Will you have to build a door frame too? ____________________ http://dddioramas.webs.com/ 11 + 2 = 12 + 1 |
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They look good Sol but I can imagine how fiddly they are to do. Not something to tackle with a blunt bread knife !! Are we looking at the back (inside) of the wall ? If so, why so much detail that presumably won't be seen ? If not, how are you going to clad it with the cover (brick) layer - or am I missing something ? Also, I notice one of the problems I've found with these kits. Having glued the one side only, there seems to be a slight tendency for the card to bow on the glued side. The internal strengthening walls usually pull it back into shape but I often wonder if one ought to coat the other side as well to balance the forces. I must add, I haven't seen the kit so can't imagine what bit we're looking at here. ____________________ 'Petermac |
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Sol Former Member
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That wall with windows & doors is paper, glued to thin clear sheet & is sandwiched in between two walls each over 1.5mm thick & these walls have clading on them. I will get some more photos tomorrow - nearly 11.30 PM here now. | |||||||||
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