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I am going to build this one - purchased yesterday & have permission by Mr Scalescenes to post this picture.




so over the next few days/weeks/months, I will describe the various stages of my endeavours.

All pages printed including the windows on the correct type of transparency - 11 for Instructions & 14 for the kit.

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:thumbs Looking forward, Ron, to following your thread! Cool!

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Looks the business,Sol.Are you going to build yours as per kit,or are you going to customise it??
These Scalescenes kits really are something.(wonder if he does it in N?)

Cheers,John.B.:thumbs

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John, re customising - I will have look at all the plans first & see. And yes in N scale as well & a large choice of brick/stone

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Oooohh.....nice.I might even have a bash at one myself later on! I'll see how you get on with it first,though.I think its really good there's a choice of bricks and stone...very versatile,and much more challenging than the Metcalfe jobbies,not that there's anything wrong with them.
  I'm going to enjoy watching this one.

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Cheers,John.B.:thumbs

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Hello Ron,
This project looks really good. Perhaps you could tell me if the floor of the double-door entrance/exit is set at the generally accepted height of trains, or lorries? Could you, if possible, give an approximation on price, please. Good modelling, mate,
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I hope you had plenty of cornflakes for Breakfast this morning you are going to need plenty of cardboard to make that one.

Im sure Doofer will be giving you a number of usefull pointers

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To prevent Sol being distracted by too many product questions the Scalescenes Good Shed may be viewed here

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Hello Tim,
God Forbid, that I should be responsible for slowing him down. :lol: I'm sure that Ron is more than capable of slowing himself down, without the help of an amateur like me. :Red Card:lol: Many Thanks for the advice, Tim,
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Looking forward to this Ron.

I think Scalescenes is a force to be reckoned with.  I hope he expands his "Townscene" range ...........John, John - did you hear ?

As JB said, they're far more complicated and time consuming than the Metcalfe/Superquick type of model but if you mix models from each range, you can create a truly unique and impressive scene.

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rector wrote: To prevent Sol being distracted by too many product questions the Scalescenes Good Shed may be viewed here

Only his age will distract him Tim, visits to the loo etc :mutley:pedal

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It would be good to see some backs of houses and yards ,in half relief.:thumbs

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sparky wrote: It would be good to see some backs of houses and yards ,in half relief.:thumbs

I agree - there used to be a company doing those Reg.  "Built-Ezee" or something.

I think John Dew has some on his layout - at least the fronts, but that firm also did the backs if memory serves me rightly.

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What this Artful Antipodean doesn't tell you is that he has already shown himself more than capable of 'Scalescening', don't you remember the good job he did here.............


http://yourmodelrailway.net/view_topic.php?id=6712&forum_id=101&highlight=sol+bridge


I thought I'd blow his trumpet for him.....[whilst he goes to the loo {Shame on you Phill,}and/or  takes one of his green pills, Nurse! Nurse! Quickly, the screens.....] :oops::oops:


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We may as well help out on this thread anyhow, if he has gone to the loo those zimmer frames are a sod to move at times so could be gone for a while, :mutley:pedal.

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Looking forward to following your build. As an alternative to the OHP printed windows you can also use the following Brassmasters windows:

Pack G - for the small office window
Pack N or O - for the large arched windows
Pack C - For the skylights.

http://www.scalescenes.com/brassmasters/brassmasters_windows.pdf

Yes I will be endeavouring to greatly expand the Townscenes range in the next couple of years (including a few more rural based structures). I am also working up a few concepts for low relief terraced house back scenes, several modeller have expressed an interest in this and I agree it would be an extremely useful kit.

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It is unfortunate John, that Brassmasters don't take credit cards or Paypal. Cheques from Aust to UK are not cheap.

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Brassmasters do now accept Pay Pal (After a bit of prodding from Scalescenes customers).

http://www.brassmasters.co.uk/

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Thanks John, it is not on that order form.
I will now have a better look at the site.

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Looking forward to this build Ron, I need to construct a long goodshed with several loading bays, Joining several kits together maybe the answer.
Thanks for your message John(scalescenes) Backs of terraced houses would make a great model. Maybe a few taller 3 story brick based building backs. How many of us remember passing rows of these as we approached a mainline station.
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Well Sol,
           not only most of the forum watching this,but the actual designer of the kit!!
........So,no pressure then???
:mutley:mutley:mutley
Cheers,John.B.:thumbs

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Why are we waiting oh why are we waiting :mutley

Finger out Ron i saw the thread and i thought wish i could have one of them so i looked and i can on Platform 3!

Looking forward to it, i am still sat on the fence between plasticard and scalescenes and Doug has helped me prevent errors and i have just invested in a new printer.

Down to you now Ron.

As John B says no pressure!

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Yes I agree,  there is no pressure but since I got it all the pages printed, after an Op session, improvements in the way the layout  is operated became evident so I have been doing that.

But today being a low 40C day ( and tomorrow), I will be staying inside so card is being collected & a slow start will commence. Note - I said a SLOW start

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Have you started yet, Ron?

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Sol wrote: . Note - I said a SLOW start


Yes, getting fans & coolers organised.

 Currently at 8AM. 30.5C & rising  & where I live will get to over 43.

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Didn't even reach 43F here.
Struggled to 3C.

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One group of members are cooking the other group are freezing, my railway room just would not warm up today. Cold hands and a pin hammer not a good combination!

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You have my sympathy Ron, we were in Petermac's part of the world for summer jollies and it was touching 40, Mrs W and i weren't happy bunnies. We were out driving just for the benefit of the aircon..just doing my bit for global warming and even hotter summers!

P.S. have you started yet?

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before I really get started, I have to clear off my card table which is used for builds of this nature.

Currently on the table is this jigsaw , one of 4 given to me by one of my sons.




nearly 20"/ 50cms - to be glued to 4mm MDF, spray varnished & hung up in my layout room.

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That looks good Sol - and at least you don't have to worry about only finding 3 corner pieces !!!!

Any chance you could send 10 of your surplus degrees over here ?  Added to what we've got, we'd still only be half what you'd have  left.  Odd that considering you're only just down a bit and round a bit from my house ..............:lol::lol::lol::lol:

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I have sent 15c degrees up to you Peter- leaving me with 20 which is ideal in my book.
Now back to the jigsaw glueing.

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Jigsaw glued, after dry, spray matt varnish & hang it up.
Now to the goods shed SLOWLY it goes.

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It's 28C/82F in Melbourne park. 'OwdidIno ?

'Cos Shelagh is watching the tennis, first time the TV has been on in this house in the morning since the last Royal Wedding.


HHmm, I wondered why she asked me to make a curry yesterday to put in the 'fridge' to have today instead of the usual roast and three!


Bl$$dy cunning, these wimmin!

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The SLOW start

my table with the bits required to build the shed



done some ends & one side wall. To give some relief to the flat wall, I printed more sheets & got the arched brickwork above doors & windows to make them standout - granted just two paper thickness. On the opposite side, I may try 3 thicknesses.









a bit outa focus - did it in the lounge and a bit darkish.


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Deceptively 3D, Ron.
Good start.

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Like DD said, a good start.

See if your printer will take 160gm/m2 white card [most do] for your added thickness items?


Onward and upward as the proctologist said...

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 So far, so good Ron. Not far to go now and it will be almost not quite nearly finished :doublethumb

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Its like watching paint dry this build :mutley.

Nice so far Ron, you done any more yet/

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Hello Ron,
Just keep-on keeping-on, mate. :thumbs Your Lay-out at your speed. Looking good, so far, but it's a shame about these impatient-people  :It's a no no(Hello Phill how are you?) :lol:
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Don't let them get to you, Ron! :roll: :mutley:mutley You'll do it in your own good time and we''ll just watch and enjoy. :thumbs

Cereal packet is very useful card to incorporate into models, but  often needs several thicknesses glued together for strength and rigidity. How thick is the card that you will use to form the main walls?

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:Happy Good start Ron, I see you have a sweet tooth, toffee for breakfast?

A question when you purchase one of these kits do you download a programme and then print it out, or pay and print from the site? just thinking of the speed of my printer on high detail colour! and if the link breaks down.

Good luck with the build.

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Perry, the thick card is like a ply almost/about 1.7mm. Bonding breakfast card is hard due to extremely glossy sides but Tarzan's Grip works well.

Derek, when you purchase a kit on line, you get advised via e-mail of a link that allows you to download the kit in a zip file which when un-zipped are usually 2 PDF's - one for Intructions & one for the actual kit.
Adobe Reader allows you then to print pages as required.

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Thanks Ron, Thats better than printing on-line.
Thanks Marty, I do have the latest adobe.
regards to you both,
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Derek, remember that some kits need a transparency to print windows - usually the last page & this has been discussed
here http://yourmodelrailway.net/view_topic.php?id=8048&forum_id=11

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I like those arched windows and doors Sol and, as DD said, you wouldn't know it wasn't 3D. :thumbs

Regarding sticking the cereal packets - I found a quick rub over with sandpaper roughed up the glossy surface enough for the glue to bite then stuck it with some cheap UHU I bought in UK from one of those £ shops. It has labels in Russian !!!

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The two sides now done -




Added 3D above the windows




This side will not normally seen by any viewer.

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Looks good Ron :thumbs.........you are slowly but surely convincing me to start on the Warehouse........just got to get my printer sorted

I really like the look of the Ashlar.

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Thanks John, I wanted something different than brick ( & I too have the big warehouse to build).
A platform using the Ashlar brick will accompany the shed.

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Looking good Ron, where some would of slapped the back on as it will not be seen, you have made a neat job of it, very nice.

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Really well done Ron :thumbs

It has convinced me to use the Ashlar for my buildings.
The 3D above the windows, did you mount it on an extra backing first?

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chrish wrote: Really well done Ron :thumbs

It has convinced me to use the Ashlar for my buildings.
The 3D above the windows, did you mount it on an extra backing first?

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Thanks Chris.

Yes one side was two thickness of paper & the other side I used slightly thicker card.

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Thanks Sol

I have a Metcalfe Goods Shed kit to build (eventually) and I am thinking of covering that with Ashlar (following Petermacs tip on roughing the surface) so that is a good tip. Even in N a bit of relief like that can make a huge difference.

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Looking nice Ron, i have downloaded a brick version but that ashlar really looks as if it has relief.

Can't find me pratt stik good start!

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:thumbsThanks for the link on transparent sheets for printing Ron. I like your wall material :thumbs and your 3D work, Loads of the old goods sheds and yard/station buildings in Ireland have a similar finish.

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I thinned down  the kit window sills from 3 to 2mm as the 3mm looked too big.

 



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You're right, Sol.  It does look better.  :thumbs

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Yes, that looks about right. :thumbs

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More smart work from the wizard of Oz.

Window sills:
Although I often make them exactly as Ron has shown (although in plastic), it sometimes is worth the extra effort to provide an overlap at each side as that is more prototypical.
(Not a criticism, just an observation).

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ddolfelin wrote:
More smart work from the wizard of Oz.

Window sills:
Although I often make them exactly as Ron has shown (although in plastic), it sometimes is worth the extra effort to provide an overlap at each side as that is more prototypical.
(Not a criticism, just an observation).


Depends on the architect and working in stone things were done differently to brick

IKB designed Stroud Goods Shed for instance
Stroud Goods Shed

Shouldn't have opened my big mouth, now you'll pick me up if I don't do the same when I build mine.

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Is the reference allowed?

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See my remark which included "sometimes".

As I renovated my own 11 bedroom rubble stone house I have an idea what was involved.

Yes, I shall be watching like a hawk!!! :lol:

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Links are always allowed Chris and I have just modified the one you have given us so that it just needs to be clicked on instead of copying and pasting into a browser.

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ddolfelin wrote:
See my remark which included "sometimes".

As I renovated my own 11 bedroom rubble stone house I have an idea what was involved.

"it sometimes is worth the extra effort to provide an overlap at each side as that is more prototypical."


It's the "prototypical" - there isn't a standard prototype
In a lot of his designs, including his own house at Torquay, IKB used the flush sloping cill.

Even in todays architecture the cill does not always go into the stone/brickwork. Take a look around Poundbury Dorchester in street view on Google, Stokenhouse Street is a good example built late 1990's early 2000's. There's flush and let in cills on both stone and brick houses.


Yes, I shall be watching like a hawk!!! :lol:
Now that might be challenge to do flush sloping cills.
What am I saying? :brickwall


I admire anybody who takes on a renovation project like yours though.

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Whatever they do in Poundbury, it's still more prototypical to have overlaps.
Many sills even have overlaps without being embedded.
As we can't go around counting up all the sills in Britain we'll have to differ.

The renovation project was also Grade II listed so there was little room for short cuts, although the County Surveyor overstepped the mark when he told me to use cast iron rainwater goods.
When the house was built it didn't have any gutters at all.

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Whatever they do in Poundbury, it's still more prototypical to have overlaps.
Many sills even have overlaps without being embedded.
As we can't go around counting up all the sills in Britain we'll have to differ.


Certainly not going to fall out over it

The renovation project was also Grade II listed so there was little room for short cuts, although the County Surveyor overstepped the mark when he told me to use cast iron rainwater goods.
When the house was built it didn't have any gutters at all.


Which was typical of its time and there are no doubt a lot scattered around the country still like it. That must have added a fair sum to the cost.

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No, because I won that particular round.
Lost many others though!

Sorry about this deviation, Ron.
You can have your thread back now!

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A little bit more in between other aspects of life

Internal platform & doors




The outside part of the doors, I scribed the planks with the back of a knife to give the impression of separate planks





 

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However are you doing my trick of detailing something that will never be seen?

On the other hand I guess your roof is removeable.......something I would never have the courage to do.......my models require a very positive 5 dimensional PVA grip

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You'll never see the detailing on the inside walls of my engineering works ............................but I know it's there ..:cool wink

I agree John, we do have to be careful that we don't spend weeks detailing the back of a wall but, when I did the Scalescenes factory kit, I just thought the inside detail was so good, it had to be modelled.  Even I can make a reasonable looking building now.....:thumbs

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Sol wrote: John, it is only the outside of the doors that will be seen & the only side I did the scribing & yes, one has to be real close to see it. At this stage, have not decided on lights but I have a ouple of days to make that decision before roofing.

Ah......that makes sense....... I have done that a few times

The scribing does look very good 

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    love the interior detailing.Are you going to put a crane/hoist in there?(It'll look the dogs' doo-dahs!!)Like the scribing on the external door,that may be subtle,but it all adds to the illusion.
    All in all,its coming on a treat.I'm definately going to have to try some of Mr Whiffens' 2mm offerings....

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John, no crane as it won't be seen, just a box or two that can be seen through the open doors. That said, I will be making a platform also out of the same stone paper to be part of the shed & that will have a crane.

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Of course, all the buildings I make are fully detailed inside, complete with running water and central heating.
Pity it can't be seen.
Some of the William Morris cushions are very pretty.

I've just looked again, Ron and it really is very good work.
Half the job is the imagination to begin it.

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Working on the gutters, I was not taken with the flatness of them so I discussed this with John Wiffen & my suggestion of using an Evergreen channel but John suggested an angle piece. So I made one of two different thickness of card with the vertical lip about 2.5mm

This shows the original & my version ( still to be painted)




This shows the bare roof & the new gutter




and the back wall with the full side gutter




Now I can continue on with the roof windows & tiles.

 

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Always a problem, gutters.
Looks like you've solved yours, Ron.

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That looks good Sol - much better than a flat plate. :thumbs

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Sol wrote: Hopefully when I roof it, things should look  :thumbs
I'm pretty sure they will, Ron! :doublethumb

You've made very rapid progress on this project. You can't have that much left to do by way of basic construction. It's certainly looking nice.

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Thanks gents - it is stopping for a while as the weather now lets me get out to train room to add point mootors & a new panel. The small office is the next part to be done when I get back to it.

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Very nice build Ron! Nice alternative solution for the gutters. Always a tricky thing to represent in card kit form. No doubt an improved solution pop up as I'm designing something completely unrelated, that's usually the way new design elements develop.

The good thing about having downloadable kit rather than a warehouse full of printed products, any improvements or tweaks can simply be folded into the existing design and a new version uploaded (which in turn can be downloaded by previous purchasers).

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Having a break of points re-laying, I continued on with the Office building.
The outside wall with door.

Window & door lintels thickened up with card & another print of that page.
The door was flat in depth so I printed it again, glued to thin card & cut it out very carefully, darkened the edges & glued it over the existing printed door - gives a bit of 3D effect




Window ledge & steps to come - should look OK with the 3ft rule ;-)

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I just want to get out of the office, head home to my workbench and get stuck into my bridges... sigh... working for the railway ;-)

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I admire you attention to detail.....I am sure it will pay dividends

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You're right Phill - that extra lintel and door panelling gives it quite a lift Sol but I'm still amazed at how much relief appears to come out on the stonework on these kits. :thumbs

I remember seeing a quayside on here and couldn't believe it was just flat card.

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Steps for the office - lots of card pieces & the side of stone




The roof - from a sheet , cut to fitin strips - this took a while




Now fitted - ready to be attached to the side of the main shed.




The chimney pot is from a ball point pen painted red-brown. I will think about a hand rail.

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Looks great Ron:thumbs......You know what...... this is boring........I write this every time I read your posts

I am impressed at the way you have tackled this project......and each post edges me a little nearer serious card modelling

One small point, I have never been clear who the operating company is on your line! :mutleyThere is some evidence to suggest they have connections with the Great Way Round.......but there is no light and medium stone so what colours constitute the company livery? Just guessing .....how are you going to get those doors to look faded Green and Gold?:mutley Right now they are a sort of faded ash...............:pedal

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John Dew wrote: One small point, I have never been clear who the operating company is on your line! :mutleyThere is some evidence to suggest they have connections with the Great Way Round.....Very true John, the Company started on the back of GWR but expanded & became a private concern using any rolling stock readily available. The railway colour scheme is a minor point now but  no doubt in the fullness of time, one will eventuate     but there is no light and medium stone so what colours constitute the company livery? Just guessing .....how are you going to get those doors to look faded Green and Gold?:mutley Right now they are a sort of faded ash...............:pedal

Card/paper  modelling, well I enjoy it but if I get anywhere near the standard of Dooferdog, I will be happy !

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That's a very smart looking office Sol.

Looking at the carcase for the steps, it looks as if you're using "grey card" rather than a Bristol Board type product.  I use the same but find it does blunt knives quite quickly compared to harder cards.

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If I can get anything approaching your standard it will make me happy.

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Steps moved as requested Phill.

Half the main roof tiled - 27 strips.



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They look neat Sol.  Whenever I do that (which isn't often :oops:), I get sloping roofs ...........I have no idea why ...:cheers

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Here it is in its almost final stage - external platform to be done next.






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Hello Ron,
That is great modelling, mate. It's so good that Mr. Wiffen, he of Brisbane & Environs, might be able to organise a Visitors Visa to Queensland :thumbs now isn't that a treat, :Happy and a "Get out of Jail Free" card so you can temporarily leave S. Australia.:Red Card:lol: Everything comes to those producing GGGrrrreeaaaT Models,

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It's a great loooking model Sol :thumbs

One of the things that impresses me about these Scalescenes kits it's that they are incredibly strong.  All those layers of glued up card make for a sturdy and surprisingly heavy building.  Metcalfe used to be like that but the last 2 kits of theirs I've built seem to have used thinner card and done away with many of the strengthening unseen parts.  I suppose that's to keep prices as low as possible but, IMHO, to their detriment.  With Scalescenes, you supply the card so it doesn't matter to J.W.

Are you going to add the handrails on the steps ?  As it is, it looks a bit "stoney" in that area - the handrails would separate the steps "block" from the rest of the building.

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Yes , handrails will happen at the same time I build a platform & crane for the other end.
My mate who build balsa items, is going to build me a station building using Random Ashlar stone & tiled roof to match.

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Here it is in its almost final stage - external platform to be done next.








As others have said Sol, very nice build indeed. Can I make one small point of constructive criticism though.

Unless it is a trick of the light then it appears to me from the last photo, particularly evident in the bottom three rows of slates that they haven't been laid in the order they come on the sheet. Mr Wiffen produces the sheet so that they give a natural weathered effect providing you keep the same order when laying them. There appears to be a distinct change in colour on those bottom three rows.

I really do like your guttering solution. There were many large buildings constructed with timber box gutters often lead lined in the early 20th century. In keeping and much easier to model :thumbs

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I would understand it with the buttresses as it is easy to get them the wrong way up but I think I must have been lucky.

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Petermac wrote: It's a great loooking model Sol :thumbs

One of the things that impresses me about these Scalescenes kits it's that they are incredibly strong.  All those layers of glued up card make for a sturdy and surprisingly heavy building. ..................

I fully agree, Petermac. Sol has made a lovely job of building this kit and it would look good on anyone's layout.

Your comment about Scalescenes kits being strong and surprisingly heavy made me smile. My Scalescenes-modified loco shed has to be lifted to be believed. :mutleyIt's a two-handed job! :shock:

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Hand rail added using brass rod 0.036"










looks OK from 12" away - end platform next.

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Excellent Sol

I know from experience how tricky it is to get the handrails looking just right. Good job:thumbs

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I can always say, they had been damaged before & a temporary repair job done.

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The start of the platform 8" /20cm long

card cut to shapes. Scalescenes Random Ashlar stone to match the shed & the platform pavers as well.



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Platform done, a sliding door required for the shed side wall & a crane to be built as well.




The low level red brick box hides a point microswitch but will be replaced.

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That's a liddle bewdy, Sol.  Bring it for Show and Tell on Sunday.  :thumbs

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Now fitted a door onto the side of the shed with z shaped runner at the top, and a  Wills crane on the platform




and just in case you have never seen a crane on a platform, have a look at this site
http://www.flickr.com/photos/23689245@N08/2410556205/ 

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Really looks the business Ron :thumbs

Love the lead flashing on the roof and around the chimney - very often ignored.

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You fooled me, Ron!

I spent a minute or two trying to work out how that door was meant to close across the opening.
Then I realised that it already was - closed across the imaginary opening.
Doh!

Good work.

In passing, I recently saw a heavily weathered prototype of exactly that crane - in Portugal.

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