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 Posted: Sat Feb 5th, 2011 12:24 pm
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See my remark which included "sometimes".

As I renovated my own 11 bedroom rubble stone house I have an idea what was involved.

Yes, I shall be watching like a hawk!!! :lol:



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 Posted: Sat Feb 5th, 2011 12:39 pm
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Links are always allowed Chris and I have just modified the one you have given us so that it just needs to be clicked on instead of copying and pasting into a browser.



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ddolfelin wrote:
See my remark which included "sometimes".

As I renovated my own 11 bedroom rubble stone house I have an idea what was involved.

"it sometimes is worth the extra effort to provide an overlap at each side as that is more prototypical."


It's the "prototypical" - there isn't a standard prototype
In a lot of his designs, including his own house at Torquay, IKB used the flush sloping cill.

Even in todays architecture the cill does not always go into the stone/brickwork. Take a look around Poundbury Dorchester in street view on Google, Stokenhouse Street is a good example built late 1990's early 2000's. There's flush and let in cills on both stone and brick houses.


Yes, I shall be watching like a hawk!!! :lol:
Now that might be challenge to do flush sloping cills.
What am I saying? :brickwall


I admire anybody who takes on a renovation project like yours though.

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Whatever they do in Poundbury, it's still more prototypical to have overlaps.
Many sills even have overlaps without being embedded.
As we can't go around counting up all the sills in Britain we'll have to differ.

The renovation project was also Grade II listed so there was little room for short cuts, although the County Surveyor overstepped the mark when he told me to use cast iron rainwater goods.
When the house was built it didn't have any gutters at all.



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Whatever they do in Poundbury, it's still more prototypical to have overlaps.
Many sills even have overlaps without being embedded.
As we can't go around counting up all the sills in Britain we'll have to differ.


Certainly not going to fall out over it

The renovation project was also Grade II listed so there was little room for short cuts, although the County Surveyor overstepped the mark when he told me to use cast iron rainwater goods.
When the house was built it didn't have any gutters at all.


Which was typical of its time and there are no doubt a lot scattered around the country still like it. That must have added a fair sum to the cost.

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No, because I won that particular round.
Lost many others though!

Sorry about this deviation, Ron.
You can have your thread back now!



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That is OK, I and no doubt many others are learning about buildings as we progress through my efforts on a model building. Keep it up.

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A little bit more in between other aspects of life

Internal platform & doors




The outside part of the doors, I scribed the planks with the back of a knife to give the impression of separate planks





 

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It really is a great looking model Sol and that tip about scribing the planking on the doors is a good one I hadn't heard before. :cheers



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It looks great Ron :thumbs:thumbs

However are you doing my trick of detailing something that will never be seen?

On the other hand I guess your roof is removeable.......something I would never have the courage to do.......my models require a very positive 5 dimensional PVA grip

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John, it is only the outside of the doors that will be seen & the only side I did the scribing & yes, one has to be real close to see it. At this stage, have not decided on lights but I have a ouple of days to make that decision before roofing.

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You'll never see the detailing on the inside walls of my engineering works ............................but I know it's there ..:cool wink

I agree John, we do have to be careful that we don't spend weeks detailing the back of a wall but, when I did the Scalescenes factory kit, I just thought the inside detail was so good, it had to be modelled.  Even I can make a reasonable looking building now.....:thumbs



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Those doors are brilliant!



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Very nice indeed! :doublethumb

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Sol wrote: John, it is only the outside of the doors that will be seen & the only side I did the scribing & yes, one has to be real close to see it. At this stage, have not decided on lights but I have a ouple of days to make that decision before roofing.

Ah......that makes sense....... I have done that a few times

The scribing does look very good 



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Sol,
    love the interior detailing.Are you going to put a crane/hoist in there?(It'll look the dogs' doo-dahs!!)Like the scribing on the external door,that may be subtle,but it all adds to the illusion.
    All in all,its coming on a treat.I'm definately going to have to try some of Mr Whiffens' 2mm offerings....

Cheers,John.B.:thumbs

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John, no crane as it won't be seen, just a box or two that can be seen through the open doors. That said, I will be making a platform also out of the same stone paper to be part of the shed & that will have a crane.

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Of course, all the buildings I make are fully detailed inside, complete with running water and central heating.
Pity it can't be seen.
Some of the William Morris cushions are very pretty.

I've just looked again, Ron and it really is very good work.
Half the job is the imagination to begin it.



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Working on the gutters, I was not taken with the flatness of them so I discussed this with John Wiffen & my suggestion of using an Evergreen channel but John suggested an angle piece. So I made one of two different thickness of card with the vertical lip about 2.5mm

This shows the original & my version ( still to be painted)




This shows the bare roof & the new gutter




and the back wall with the full side gutter




Now I can continue on with the roof windows & tiles.

 

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